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Jhonny Williams is working on a transfer to Michigan

BubbaJ75

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Kid wants to play for Harbaugh and should have been at UM from the get go. A few wrinkles to iron out and JW will be cracking skulls in Ann Arbor in 2017

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Kid wants to play for Harbaugh and should have been at UM from the get go. A few wrinkles to iron out and JW will be cracking skulls in Ann Arbor in 2017

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Kid didn't like the academics at ND, and this is working on academic issues with his transfer, despite transferring to an undergraduate school ranked lower than where he's coming from, that specializes in football players majoring in "General Studies"

He's a high potential, boom/bust player at DE. I coukd see him as a Top3 round draft pick or never cracking info the lineup (depending on desire/focus) but ND just wasn't a good fit for him.

It's too bad, there are certainly exciting aspects to his game
 
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Kid didn't like the academics at ND, and this is working on academic issues with his transfer, despite transferring to an undergraduate school ranked lower than where he's coming from, that specializes in football players majoring in "General Studies"

He's a high potential, boom/bust player at DE. I coukd see him as a Top3 round draft pick or never cracking info the lineup (depending on desire/focus) but ND just wasn't a good fit for him.

It's too bad, there are certainly exciting aspects to his game
I'll take General Studies over rampant cheating scandal every time.
 
I'll take General Studies over rampant cheating scandal every time.
The thing about cheating, yes they cheated. Thing is ND did not sweep it under the rug like say a Michigan or Ohio State would have. See ND has integrity unlike say Michigan.
 
Why respond to this clown?
He appears when there is something that in his "simple little pea-brain" is pro UM and against ND.
The kid, while loaded with potential, couldn't break the 3 deep at ND, and had other issues.
I hope the kid does well. We won't have to see him during his career either regular season or likely in a bowl game.
They have a long road back before they crack the top 4 in the Big Integer.
 
Yet you can't stop talking about a few wins prior to 1940? Well, at least they called ND's last TD back in the 31-0 ass kicking you got last year. You can hang your hat on that. You are still second in all time win percentage. There is something you can be happy with.
 
It's not. It's like saying Texas is better then other states because we punish crimes the hardest.
 
Pennick-

I think that the inherently when we say well at least we make sure our players get punished we are ignoring the issue that they did something to be punished in the first place. Saying "A" is better then "B" and having that statement be true doesn't necessary make "A" good.

Up the thread I use the analogy... We don't look at Texas as a better state then New Jersey with regards to crime because they make sure their criminals are punished harder when they commit crimes in the Lone Star State.
 
accountability = ND
cover up = the norm at many universities these days

1 is clearly more responsible than the other; can you guess which one?
 
That's not the argument perse and the two of us have already gone over this. Not denying that ND often holds their players more accountable then a lot of other schools. This fact however doesn't address or make up for the fact that ND has its fair share of knuckleheads and that what they do to hold their players accountable doesn't deter future knuckleheads.
 
That's not the argument perse and the two of us have already gone over this. Not denying that ND often holds their players more accountable then a lot of other schools. This fact however doesn't address or make up for the fact that ND has its fair share of knuckleheads and that what they do to hold their players accountable doesn't deter future knuckleheads.
I do believe it will deter "future knuckleheads". You don't think other players are going to think twice when considering the "easy way out"?
 
So why do we punish at all? Maybe ND needs to be more strict. I have family members who have degrees from ND. I love my ND football but not at the expense of the value of its principles.
 
Ok. The point is that it's not a winner to say ND has better character kids because ND punishes them when they mess up. Punisment isn't the measure of the character of those in the group being punished.
 
So why do we punish at all? Maybe ND needs to be more strict. I have family members who have degrees from ND. I love my ND football but not at the expense of the value of its principles.
I would think punishment is partly for redemption sake, surely an aim of a Catholic-based institution.
 
Ok. The point is that it's not a winner to say ND has better character kids because ND punishes them when they mess up. Punisment isn't the measure of the character of those in the group being punished.

learning from the consequences is a part of that measure.
but there have to be consequences to do that.
 
Word is there are no scholerships available at UM so there's that....you'd think a team that has been smacked around like them the last few years they would make room for a talent like that....did ND see something when they let him walk? Gotta wonder
 
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