It’s Wide Open Nobody looks unbeatable
- Thread starter edub72
- Start date
So am I.
When there are only 2 or 4 teams in a CFB playoff, winning a game, like 2012, 2018, and 2020, is much much tougher.
You're putting guys on there that didn't make the league
Redfield and Shumate no NFL. Coney no NFL. Mack no nfl. Folston no NFL.
Was that a joke saying about the secondary and getting scored on by USC? That team gave up over 30 points 4 games. Stanford scored 38 on them. Are you high?
4 or 5 of these linebackers will be on a nfl roster. Schmidt wouldn't even see the field on this team and he started
TE are you joking? Evans is better than Smythe was. And Mack never played a down in the league. Raridon and Flanagan will have a good chance
The 15 roster was a really good roster. Had 26 players in the league. This roster will have a good amount more
You were right. It's not close. Don't forget I was counting the whole depth chart. Some of those guys didn't even play on that team. When you get down to our young guys is going to blow that class away.
And I'm not even counting some of our injured guys on this depth chart. I didn't even include Morrison and Traore who played for this team
It's not close. This team will have over 30 players that get drafted
Last edited:
You’re getting bent over here, just grab the Vaseline and take it. Im not allowed to list guys that didn’t play in the NFL? Haha this is what you’re whole argument is based on, projecting current guys who have never played in the league.
You trying to tell me Josh Adams shouldn’t be considered when comparing the two rosters cause he didn’t play in the league? Well you came up with 9 guys who could potentially play in the league…you’re getting close bub
And a 1st round projection for Leonard. Straight garbage.
Shall we go off of recruiting rankings? Any game you want, we have facts over here and you have Riley Leonard 1st round projections.
Please list the other 29 NFL bound guys on the team..I’ll grab a beer
Last edited:
What are you talking about? Josh Adams played in the league. You don't even know the roster you claim to know so much about. I already counted him stupid
Get bent is right. 26 nfl players on that depth chart. This one will be in the 30s
It's not even close. The whole thing is a projection. That's a stupid argument. You are projecting that they won't make the league. I am projecting they will
Your arguments are just awful
🤣🤣
Telling me not to project when you are making projections. What are you stupid or something
This roster is loaded top to bottom. You're too stupid to see it
This draft class will have about 8 or 9 guys alone that play in the league. And its only going to go up with the increase in talent we are bringing in. It's not close
The more I sleep on it, for ND the difference comes to:
1) RL having to throw deep.
2) An optimal offensive game plan...anchored on the OL and run game, mixing play action, RL running, but keep them honest with deep ball strikes if they dare you.
3) The kicking game: this alone could be the margin.
Against teams like Oregon, Georgia, and Ohio State, these in combination can be the difference. Even if ND brings their A game. Fingers crossed.
1) RL having to throw deep.
2) An optimal offensive game plan...anchored on the OL and run game, mixing play action, RL running, but keep them honest with deep ball strikes if they dare you.
3) The kicking game: this alone could be the margin.
Against teams like Oregon, Georgia, and Ohio State, these in combination can be the difference. Even if ND brings their A game. Fingers crossed.
Line play on both sides will be critical, as in most games. We need to show we can run against a very good run defense, and protect Leonard against a very good rush end they have. On defense, we need to put a lot of pressure on their QB. He has shown to be very accurate and effective when given time, and very ineffective under pressure. Golden will need to dial up a large variety of looks with blitzes coming from different places to rattle their qb.
You’re getting bent over here, just grab the Vaseline and take it. Im not allowed to list guys that didn’t play in the NFL? Haha this is what you’re whole argument is based on, projecting current guys who have never played in the league.
You trying to tell me Josh Adams shouldn’t be considered when comparing the two rosters cause he didn’t play in the league? Well you came up with 9 guys who could potentially play in the league…you’re getting close bub
And a 1st round projection for Leonard. Straight garbage.
Shall we go off of recruiting rankings? Any game you want, we have facts over here and you have Riley Leonard 1st round projdctions
Name the 30, what you waiting for? I’ll kick it off for ya:
1: Riley Leonard (1st round) *your judge on talent is already in question, can’t wait to hear your next 29 bub. You have yet to address this, dodging it per usual.
2. Who are the 9 that will get drafted this year?
3. What the hell does future classes mean when comparing this team to 2015?
I'd take the corners from the 2012 team, the DL of Nix/Day, it's tough to compare running backs as they are dependent on everyone else.
Colley gives ND 6 top 50 wins. Only Oregon and UGA tied that with the CCGs. The middle of the schedule turned out okay, especially if you give ND credit for their opponents' wins. SC>LSU, UL>UK, GTech > Miami and almost tied UGA.
They beat the Drew Pyne Mizzous. I cannot believe we are entertaining this from a three loss team.
1. If I list 30, you would cry because some haven't played yet like a Guerby so you'll challenge every player. I know you from your comments. So to list 30 when you will question them all is stupid.
2. You're RL comment is you throwing in the white flag without saying youre throwing in the white flag. It's so stupid. You know NFL teams miss all the time with QBs drafted in the 1st rd. So if I'm wrong you think that means everything it means shit. Bill Belichick drafted Mac jones in the 1st round. Bust. Johnny Manziel was drafted 1st rd. Jamarcus Russell. Josh Rosen. Ryan Leaf I could go on and on. Does that mean all those people are bad evaluators. Nfl teams miss all the time. If that's all you got, you're a bigger moron than I thought. Trey Lance. Zach Wilson. How many QBs did Elway miss on? Just a really stupid stupid point by you. Akili Smith. Brady Quinn. Rick Mirer etc etc etc.
3. Because you said the roster was more talented. I said no this roster is. Then you showed a depth chart that I said were NFL players that didn't play on that team or at ND, Jalen Guyton. I still counted him. This roster top to bottom is better
4. The guys in the draft class who will get drafted or play in the NFL at some point. There will be 8 to 9
Ben Morrison
Xavier Watts
Howard Cross
Riley Mills
Mitch Evans
Jordan Clark
Jack Kiser
Riley Leonard
Beaux Collins
Some starters from this team who will start or play in the NFL
Love
Wagner
Schrauth
Price
Young
Bowen
Shuler
Moore
Gray
KVA
There's more depth guys and young guys who will also be NFL guys. This roster is better no question
Not near 30..your RL infamous 1st round statement is more of an indictment on your judge of talent as it relates to this conversation.
You can pivot as you wish stating non-players as an argument as why this team is better but bottom line- head to head, this team is grabbing its ankles like you
In your opinion. You have nothing to base that on at all. This team hasn't gone into the draft. It will take 5 years to know and after 5 years you will be proved wrong by a long shot
The RL thing means shit. It's you grasping at straws and throwing in the flag. If that's all you got, that's means you have nothing
This 24 team has way more talent top to bottom than the 15 team. There will be more NFL players on this team and it might not be close
Your basing this team on guys that haven’t played a down.. how does that impact a head to head matchup?
I used players that didn't play on that team as well....I just said overall team talent this team has more and will have more NFL players. More talent top to bottom
If you are talking about head to head matchup I would pick this team because that team had a major weakness, BVG
This years team strikes me as balanced team on both sides of the ball, moreso than in years past. Defensively, I think this is as good of a group as we've seen. I have no reservations in saying this defense will keep us in a ballgame when the O struggles. Offensively, again, we're very balanced. As critical as I have been of him, Leondard is a definite X factor with his legs. Mobile QB's are a pain to defend.
What I find interesting about this offense is aside from Love, no one really stands out, especially our recieving corp. To be honest, that kind of makes defending them tough as you have no one WR to ensure you roll coverage to at all times. Spreading the wealth to a lot of different guys is rough on defenses. You have to account for everyone, every snap. I liken this offense to a NE Patriots offense back in the day. No one flashy for the most part, but Tom Brady dinked and dunked down the field at will, using a lot of different recievers.
What I find interesting about this offense is aside from Love, no one really stands out, especially our recieving corp. To be honest, that kind of makes defending them tough as you have no one WR to ensure you roll coverage to at all times. Spreading the wealth to a lot of different guys is rough on defenses. You have to account for everyone, every snap. I liken this offense to a NE Patriots offense back in the day. No one flashy for the most part, but Tom Brady dinked and dunked down the field at will, using a lot of different recievers.
