Is there ANYONE that still believes Jeff Quinn is a good coach?
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I expect a better post from you.
This is the worst line at Notre Dame in 25 years. It's not close and they are not getting better.
That's coaching.
Josh lugg has apparently forgotten how to pass block. Especially to outside pressure.
Tosh baker has yet to be coached to correct his bias towards outside leverage...I doubt any Lt in div 1 has given up more inside rushes than baker and he does it every game. Basically block rushers into the pocket.
Coan Madden stops his feet while retreating negating all his leverage in pass blocking
Zeke Carroll goes entire plays without blocking anyone.
These are all coachable issues...and in game 4 they have not been addressed.
Hh got away with picking a bunch of four star guys that fit his mold and coaching them to stars. Quinn is getting lower level four stars and they are not getting coached up. That is absolutely what is happening. Either Quinn needs better guys coming in, or he needs to start coaching basic techniques between games.
Either way it's a major Quinn issue
He didn't walk on a ND. BTW, those who call names are either weak minded, weak spirted, or have weak arguments.
I would watch it if I were you. You're pushing it. Obviously our OL is struggling so this is a rich and tempting area for you to target regardless of our record. But we're still 4-0. And we keep winning like we're doing and there might be a backlash to obvious trolls like you.
So keep that in mind, troll.
You're doing the Ian Book argument. That's how weak that is
Can you not read? I said it's a coaching issue. I've been saying that in almost every thread that is a coaching issue. What are you talking about
I keep saying it's a coaching issue, not a talent issue.
Weird response from you
Whats astonishing to me is that these players had all spring, summer, preseason, and still can practice against a damn good group of d-line players. Wouldn't you think that going from practicing against ND d-line would make it super easy to go against the other d-lines ND has faced? I watch this o-line group and seriously wonder if they practice at all. I don't get it.
It's not that simple. Quinn is the same coach that did a great job with last year's o-line. I think there are multiple factors. I do think the talent level is down compared to last year. I wonder how much Rees changed in terms of philosophy and play calling and if his calls are not meshing well with what the o-line are being taught. I don't think Rees is always putting the o-line in a great position. For example I've seen plays in which there are 4 defensive players left of the center and only 3 on the right and the play is a run to the left of the center. With that said, did Book have more authority and was better able at recognizing the front 7 and making changes in comparsion to Coan? There's a lot you have to take into consideration.
We had Chris Watt last year. The players loved him. The line was better than in 18 and 19. And he got a job after 1 year.
This is a coaching problem. Talent and depth are there
I think it's a good idea to bring up a thread I posted in early 2020 here where I reference a topic Eric Hansen brought up on Weekday Sportsbeat. He talked about how inside sources were telling him that the OL players were frustrated that they weren't being taught technique as much as they thought they needed because Quinn focused on teaching scheme while mostly ignoring technique. Months after that episode of Sportsbeat, Hansen later alluded to the fact most of his sources were parents of the players. In other words, the sources were extremely credible. And the fact they were talking to Hansen about the issue meant the players thought it was a huge problem.
I think it's pretty obvious that what Hansen was being told was true. I also know that when Chis Watt was brought in as a GA last year, it was widely reported that his focus would be to teach the technique he learned under HH. I also think it's obvious, now that Watt is gone, there is no longer that bridge linking back to HH's coaching style. I think ND is back to Quinn focusing on scheme while ignoring technique and the O-linemen are showing that every Saturday.
I think it's pretty obvious that what Hansen was being told was true. I also know that when Chis Watt was brought in as a GA last year, it was widely reported that his focus would be to teach the technique he learned under HH. I also think it's obvious, now that Watt is gone, there is no longer that bridge linking back to HH's coaching style. I think ND is back to Quinn focusing on scheme while ignoring technique and the O-linemen are showing that every Saturday.
Wow, what a great find and talk about coming to fruition. If anyone had any doubts about Quinn this should erase that. But there will be the die hards that will continue to support him at any peril.
Classic! This board is already swimming with crackpots, but you're like Mr. Credibility compared to these goons, and apparently you've got the paper trail, you've got the proof! No need to even watch the games, who cares about that, you got the documented proof that Quinn is a shit coach, and the actual players' parents depositions on how shitty Quinn is. And you guys aren't just a bunch of miserable cranks who should be launched into outer space, you're basically heroes, you're actually gathering the admissible evidence that Jeff Quinn sucks so bad, and thus justify your little lynch mobs....
The players' parents is the sweetest plum of this. Since it was the actual players' parents, no one would dare to challenge your little conspiracy theory. I sure hope you're not a ND grad. I realize ND is highly overrated academically, and its largely made up of extremely mediocre academic achiever apple polisher types, but that would be disappointing if you were one just the same. That even ND grads stoop to this shit. Hopefully you're just a troll.
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Why fire Alexander? Look at what he has done with Kevin Austin. You need to stop talking trash about the Irish and go play with your Andre Aggassi doll.
So you're saying Quinn can't recruit? Spin it how you want either talent or development the OL is poor and this is Quinn 4th year as OL coach so it's all on him regardless.
Kevin Austin? He's average at best. Yes he had 2 TD vs Wisc but he had a grand total of 76 yards. For the season he has 230 yards and 3 TDs. No matter how you look at it; yards, yds/game, yds/reception, TDs Austin is in the bottom half of CFB.
He has more drops per game than catches and his route running is not good.
OK you can talk about my momma but don't you dare dis Andre. Dem fightin words! I would play with my Andre doll but all his hair fell out lol! But seriously where am I trash taking our team? I'm critical of certain coaches and rightfully so. See the blind Homer's think unless you say all is roses you're a hater. While I commend you enthusiasm you're living in a dream world.
