I AM impressed with DK.......but I absolutely had the thought during the game that IF ONLY Malik was playing he would have RUN silly over temple in their drop 8 defenses!!! In 2016 we will need them ALL!!!
BEAT da kittens!!!
Is Kizer better than golson??
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I AM impressed with DK.......but I absolutely had the thought during the game that IF ONLY Malik was playing he would have RUN silly over temple in their drop 8 defenses!!! In 2016 we will need them ALL!!!
BEAT da kittens!!!
Agree. DK seems like a natural running the read option. Maybe not the bruiser that MZ is running the ball but better read skills and much faster.
Don't forget that Clausen played with MF and GT at reciever. GT alone can make any QB look like an accurate passer - never saw a receiver that could get into position to make a catch like him. All three playing in the NFL but Clausen's ability never carried over like Floyd and Tate.
Not sure we have burned his year so far but there is a chance he may need to play down the line. Does anyone know the rule on how much a frosh can play? I think it is beyond
Doubt he is faster
Indeed. Moreover notice how deceptive he is beginning to run the zone read. Malik never ran it so slick. Malik will transfer or take up a new position. Kizer is only getting better and not going back on the bench.
When MZ went down, everyone here was calling to get BW some playing time so he'd be ready if DK went down. Bummer that we've burnt BW's year knowing what we know now (so far). Too bad we haven't had any other chances to get BW in there to play. Hopefully we'll get up big on Pitt and get him some more snaps.
IDK Pennick. That 79 yard gallop by DK sold me. Those DBs weren't even close to making up ground. When Zaire broke off his 56 yard run against Rice, he was flat-out run down from behind (and, honestly, looked like he was waiting for it).
Malik was 8-21 vs Virginia , Kizer has not had a game anywhere even close to that bad since he entered the lineup. Numbers are numbers 8-21 is putrid . I like the kid ( Zaire a lot ) but I don't believe his future @ ND looks anything like it did 2 months ago .
How could anyone possibly expect Kizer to sit next year ? At this point that is unthinkable really .
Agree 88. Kizer sticks the ball in the RB's gut and keeps both hands on the ball. He's reading the whole time and can still pull it back and go if the end crashes down. Golson was handing off every time he pretended to run the read option and Zaire was iffy on the correct read. Neither Golson nor Zaire ran it with the deception that Kizer runs it.
Maybe that's where the Montana comparisons come into play in this thread, KH35. Kizer was third string (spring) and came in and owned the job. Very little to no hype for Kizer (Perse excepted) and he has turned into two-minute Joe minus the chicken soup
Glad you posted that video, Q4T. I can hardly believe how much the ND offense has evolved this year under Kizer. IMO, ND would not be 7-1 this year with that QB play. It was hard watching and I stopped it around the halfway point. Overthrows, low-dart passes, and fumbled hikes...it actually looked to me like sandlot football.
Honestly, my biggest concern isn't whether Kizer starts next year but if ND can get two more years out of him before he bolts to the NFL. He has three years of eligibility remaining and I am hoping ND get two of those years.
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For real now, you guys are getting ridiculous. So every throw made by Kizer is perfect? It's amazing how true the statement "what have you done for me lately" exists.
I am surely not saying he is perfect but the offense for ND is running so much better than I saw under EG or MZ. MZ can surely get a pass since he was starting just his third game at UVA. But, DK is a special talent and if you cannot see that by now then nothing I can say will convince you.
Look, I have never been big on the pro potential for option-read guys coming out of college.However, I see something special in DK because he is not a run-first guy. He steps up into the pocket as well as I have seen and has the height and speed for the next level. Oh, don't forget he has some wheels to outrun DBs. Even when he fumbled that last snap against Temple, he never got rattled and just picked it up and tossed it high into the air to end the game. The kid has a football IQ that takes him to the next level.
I honesty see him as a first-round pick. It's early to say that, for sure, and he has a lot of college time left. But, it does not change my mind that he is the best QB ND has had in a very long time.
I honesty see him as a first-round pick. It's early to say that, for sure, and he has a lot of college time left. But, it does not change my mind that he is the best QB ND has had in a very long time.
Not to keep going back and forth about this topic, but I can care less regarding the pro potential of a college QB. Does Malik's skill set transfer over to the pro game, not really, but on Saturday's I cheer for the University of Notre Dame. DK has proven to be a valuable replacement but next year he will not automatically be handed the keys to the car.
Ok...it won't be automatic. DK will have 10/11 starts (provided he stays healthy) and MZ will have 3.
disagree. temple sold out on stopping procise. they actually helped kizer. temple bet kizer couldn't beat them. glad they were wrong. some short memories here. anyone who thinks kizer runs the read option better than zaire is crazy. kizer is getting better for sure but let's be real.
Echo, call me crazy (oh wait, you already did) but there is no way Zaire is even close to Kizer in running the read-option. Didn't you say you were a coach? What do you base your observations on that go against all definable logic?
The games that Kizer has played vs. the games I watched MZ play. It was obvious watching Zaire run the read-option that he wasn't completely comfortable with the read option and looked to sort of make up his mind before the play whether he was going to hand off or keep it. Even the announcers questioned his decisions let alone football analysts reporting/commenting on it. Maybe I read about and listen to way too much ND football but I thought it was obvious to any fan that MZ was not gifted at running the read option.
Q4T, please do not confuse my comments in any way to think I believe MZ is not a great running QB - he is for sure. That is why I hope BK is able to keep him on the team and convert him to RB.
When I watch DK run the read option it's like the whole field freezes for a second while he puts the ball into the RB's gut and makes his decision. DK appears to run the read option the way it is designed to be run.
When I watch DK run the read option it's like the whole field freezes for a second while he puts the ball into the RB's gut and makes his decision. DK appears to run the read option the way it is designed to be run.
