Is Freeman safe the entire year
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He will get at minimum 3 years if not 5. Rees is on a much shorter leash than anyone else on the coaching staff.
He has been thrust into a tough spot, in that he is not at all qualified for this job, and yet he was given the job anyway. And ND saw fit to hire this unqualified, unfit coach, thus so thrusting him.....
It's a good question, if ND went.... 2-10? Would he still keep the job? Or even midseason, if we were, say, 0-8?
They probably wouldn't fire him midseason in any event, nor is it a foregone conclusion we're going to have a terrible record. But man, the look on his face, in the 4th quarter, when the game had become out of reach.... just couldn't have been any worse. He looked like a scared little boy, straight up. And you honestly felt very sympathetic towards him. But we gotta have a competent coach.
Anyways, hopefully we bounce back vs Cal! And Drew Pyne can lead us forward.....
It's a good question, if ND went.... 2-10? Would he still keep the job? Or even midseason, if we were, say, 0-8?
They probably wouldn't fire him midseason in any event, nor is it a foregone conclusion we're going to have a terrible record. But man, the look on his face, in the 4th quarter, when the game had become out of reach.... just couldn't have been any worse. He looked like a scared little boy, straight up. And you honestly felt very sympathetic towards him. But we gotta have a competent coach.
Anyways, hopefully we bounce back vs Cal! And Drew Pyne can lead us forward.....
Funny thing is, there is a real chance to start out 0-6. So would they get rid of him ? No. There isn’t one game including Navy that they can’t lose. If they lose to Cal, the wheels will be off and who knows what will happen. Right now, I don’t see how they win based on what we saw the first two games. It’s a big mess. No getting around it.
Drew Pyne! I'm totally warmed up to it! We need the offense to be able to get 1st downs. Like, if MF and Rees and whoever else in the brain trust are not able to come up with some kind of ad hoc practical approach, and strategy, where we know we can move the ball, to at least some substantial degree, then we really could be in a world of shit. And all bets are off.
That's why we should go with Drew Pyne! Buchner may well be injured and thus it's a fait accompli I guess you'd say that Pyne will then take over. But even if Buchner simply keeps struggling, and more importantly we keep losing, we'll probably make a change at some point pretty quick just to try anything new. I don't know what I was saying about Steve Angeli, he's obviously not going to start unless he's the only QB left.
Pyne just needs to get his mojo back. He has the look about him like he's already given up on his dreams. And well, he just might be the one who could save MF's job......
That's why we should go with Drew Pyne! Buchner may well be injured and thus it's a fait accompli I guess you'd say that Pyne will then take over. But even if Buchner simply keeps struggling, and more importantly we keep losing, we'll probably make a change at some point pretty quick just to try anything new. I don't know what I was saying about Steve Angeli, he's obviously not going to start unless he's the only QB left.
Pyne just needs to get his mojo back. He has the look about him like he's already given up on his dreams. And well, he just might be the one who could save MF's job......
Yes...ND has silently been negotiating with Scott Frost for this particular situation.
0-6 or 0-7, I doubt he is safe. 4/8, yea he would be ok.
It’s about bowls, boosters, TV and stadium sales. Football is not a place for politics.
Lose to cal and the boosters will start to have meetings. Lose 3 more and those meetings will be with Jack. Lose them all and the Univ will be forced to make a change. They will not put up with no wins in a year hoping it changes.
it’s OK to lose to OSU, Clemson and USC. It might be OK to add BYU in there.
Losing to Marshall, Cal and Navy and he is gone.
It’s about bowls, boosters, TV and stadium sales. Football is not a place for politics.
Lose to cal and the boosters will start to have meetings. Lose 3 more and those meetings will be with Jack. Lose them all and the Univ will be forced to make a change. They will not put up with no wins in a year hoping it changes.
it’s OK to lose to OSU, Clemson and USC. It might be OK to add BYU in there.
Losing to Marshall, Cal and Navy and he is gone.
He is 100% safe this year as it relates to the football team. Now if he violates his contract in another fashion that’s a separate issue.
Any football coach should be given the opportunity to make corrections and improve his program especially a rookie coach. That’s a risk you assume when extending an offer to a rookie regardless of how seem less you believe the transition to be.
I bet he’s safe mid way into year 3 or even year 4.
Any football coach should be given the opportunity to make corrections and improve his program especially a rookie coach. That’s a risk you assume when extending an offer to a rookie regardless of how seem less you believe the transition to be.
I bet he’s safe mid way into year 3 or even year 4.
Not a chance ND fires MF mid season. The howling & usual racial arsonists ( msnbc , cnn, ny times espn , & pick any local chucifritto nyc news station) would pick ND apart. Christ, the feds may even get involved. MF is here 3 years @ least. He’s in over his head.
ND is not like everyone else. They got raked over the coals for TY firing.
Y'all are just assuming he'll win a game.
Never say never and what if he really finished 2-10 or 3-9 or worse. Winless.
The odds aren't likely but he's three games in with no victory yet. Truth be told he wasn't close to winning yet this year.
Scot Frost as an OC would be a major upgrade over Tommy deer in the headlights..
Nebraska scored 28, 38 and 42 points in their 3 games.. We score that many points we win running away.
Whatever you say Sparky. Tommy deer in the headlights is very witty. What an imagination you have. 😜
If Tommy isn't fired then Freeman is the problem. It's his product.
Just like when Brian Van Gorder was running the defense. It wasn't Brian Kelly running the defense but it was hire and ultimately his product.
Rees was retained by Freeman. It's his selection to run the offense.
I’d you’re rebuilding yes. He took over a top 5 talented team and lost to Marshall. There aren’t many coaches that bad. I’m rather confident most experienced high school coaches would’ve beaten Marshall as NDs coach.
The coach that needs fired to date is Harry. I know that is the third rail for here but his line looks Aweful. These are all top recruits. They look slow and soft. Maybe bayless needs fired. Even our TE’s look slow.
When you can’t leak a back out as a safety valve, you can’t get a 4th and 1 and your running game needs most yards to come from your QB I’m not sure TR is my first target. TR missed a few easy screen options to call but he has a limited QB, limited WR’s and a line that waves at people as they fly by.
Fix the line and you fix most of what we are seeing.
When you can’t leak a back out as a safety valve, you can’t get a 4th and 1 and your running game needs most yards to come from your QB I’m not sure TR is my first target. TR missed a few easy screen options to call but he has a limited QB, limited WR’s and a line that waves at people as they fly by.
Fix the line and you fix most of what we are seeing.
Ty was clearly a mediocre coach and that was plain to see after year 2. But look how long it took to fire him and the racist crap that came because of it.
In the current woke insanity, there is no way he is fired unless he has the worst season in ND history and even then I doubt it.
The fact that we have the talent to do more will not matter to those afraid to face the woke insanity.
In the current woke insanity, there is no way he is fired unless he has the worst season in ND history and even then I doubt it.
The fact that we have the talent to do more will not matter to those afraid to face the woke insanity.
Stop looking for a scapegoat. All of those mentioned did well under BK. Balis was known as the best S&C coach in the nation. TR was the hottest up and coming OC in the country. Freeman was best best DC in America. HH was the best OL coach in ND history.
Now they all stink. It starts at the top!! No coach in ND history has ever gone 0-3. No coach in ND history ever gave up such a big lead. No coach in ND history has ever looked as confused and scared on the sidelines. This doesn't end well.
Who are we blaming besides the head coach after Cal?
I agree 100% with your post that he's going to get longer than he should, but I also feel like he'll get the hook well before his contract is up if this is the trajectory of the program through EOY.
I'm merely predicting what will happen here. I'd give him til mid terms next season to make a final decision.
If he were at LSU, Ohio State, Clemson, Oklahoma, Texas etc he'd probably get the hook at EOY if performance went from playoff contender to 2-10 / 3-9 record. (will reserve final record predictions after seeing Pyne play.. I think they might be a 5-6 win team if he can play the rest of the way with Angeli as his backup)
