Irish Weak 2015 Schedule May Ruin Playoff Chances...
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I can understand your point of view being a fan of an independent school, you don't value conference championships because your team doesn't compete for one. Conference champions in 4 of the 5 leagues have to play 13 games including the beating another division champion in the conference championship game and that alone should earn them the right for 4 of them to host the first round games, because they are champions not just well regarded teams.
The remaining champion and three at large seeds could draw lots to see where they play which would minimize the politics. A committee would determine the weakest champion, which in some years would be obvious, and determine who the three at large bids are but the first round match ups could be left to chance, perhaps the visiting teams could select their opponent after drawing lots. For example if the Irish were chosen and had the right of selection they may wish to play the B1G champion in familiar surroundings or a more favorable match up than going to Alabama or a rematch in California with the PAC-12 champ. Having the visitors pick their poison would level the field somewhat.
If you don't want Notre Dame to be at a disadvantage join the ACC and earn the right to host by winning a championship. Right now in the 4 team playoff the Irish are at a disadvantage of their own choosing which may very well be worth it since independence and a national schedule are a cherished tradition. Adding four more teams and a first round would help level the field for the Irish in my opinion and provide equity to the leagues.
Not true. The NCAA does not recognize these, or any other, BCS or division one CFB titles.
I am not interested enough in correcting you to find the link look for it yourself.
Here you go sparky.....hahaha. with your math we have 100......
http://www.ncaa.com/history/football/fbs
There is no link. The NCAA does not recognize national titles in division one football. That's why they are referred to as mythical national championships.
Thanks for the feedback. I apologize if you thought I was breaking your shoes.
Here's the NCAA list of champs...... my focus is more on someone calling themselves "boldsparky" and trying to convince us that it is a good.idea to give the B10 champ the opportunity to host a college playoff game....too funny....
http://www.ncaa.com/history/football/fbs
Take a closer look. The titles refer to "selecting organization." Those champions were selected by the AP, UPI, etc.
Stanford has to hold form tonight..... Washington put it to socal...Sark was croffled though.....
(Crocked/waffled)
How is this for you....? You have presented perhaps the dumbest idea for a college football playoff ever. It is failure on a grand scale. Then you outdid yourself by doing it on an ND board. Tell me why 2,3, or 4 loss conference champs should be in anything....? It is stupid....
And one of the board's top 2 DBs just joined the party. All we need as Paz now.
so thinking out loud here... OSU wins out and beats MSU decisively. #1 seed.
lsu wins out and beats bama decisively. #2 seed
Clemson wins out. #3 seed.
Baylor loses to ok st and possibly TX with QB out. Tcu loses to ou decisively.
ND wins out. #4 seed.
not too farfetched.
I'm not sure ND can win that playoff, but the road got a lot easier today. we are the last team to beat LSU and would love a shot at Clemson when its dry...it would be fun to see.
lsu wins out and beats bama decisively. #2 seed
Clemson wins out. #3 seed.
Baylor loses to ok st and possibly TX with QB out. Tcu loses to ou decisively.
ND wins out. #4 seed.
not too farfetched.
I'm not sure ND can win that playoff, but the road got a lot easier today. we are the last team to beat LSU and would love a shot at Clemson when its dry...it would be fun to see.
Okay, but if the Irish win out and get passed over by 4 league champs including multiple 1 loss teams because you only play 12 and don't have allies with an interest in your success my proposal may not seem as crazy. Annually ND has a much better chance of competing for 1 of the 3 at large bids in an 8 team system against conference also rans than it does forcing a second conference champ to stay home in the 4 team formula we have today. I want four of the teams to host the first round so it is the college fan crowd not a corporate event. As I stated before I believe it equitable to have 4 of the champions host the first round games since they survived the elimination process of league play not some committe's arbitrary ranking. To get all five champs in the playoffs every give substantial independents like Notre Dame and BYU and worthy conference also rans a path to the championship I think the field needs to be expanded to 8.
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Your proposal is not linked to.any semblance of rational thought. Explain why a 2, 3 or 4 loss ,conference champ should be afforded anything. I previously linked the past big 10 champs year to year. Some of the past champ records are abysmal and not worthy of NC/playoff consideration...... that's part of the flaw....
so you do realize 95% of the eligible conference champs play at least one lower division game. ND does not. The committee will take into account the wins in notre dames 12 div 1 games and weight that against your power conference teams 11 div 1 games and 2 (in the sec anyways)lower division games.
you do realize conference title games are about money not substance right? No one gives two craps how many sec or Pac 12 titles a team has. They serve no purpose other then increasing the money and the allure of a power five conference.
you do realize conference title games are about money not substance right? No one gives two craps how many sec or Pac 12 titles a team has. They serve no purpose other then increasing the money and the allure of a power five conference.
BOLD
You are usually fair and money but this time I call BS on you.. ND picks its schedule for difficulty The teams we schedule typically are top flight. There is no way to know that one of these teams will have a down year. Example- USC is always tough but are struggling until now and they are looking very good now Pitt was thought to be an easy game this year although they are usualoly pretty good and instead of sucking, they are 5-1
Contrast ND's sched with OSU.. Joke. I think if we beat Stanford we will be in playoffs.
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Anyone that says ND plays a weak schedule or needs to join a conf is a moron. Welcome to the ignore bin.
Big10 trolls are weak and scared. They know they don't deserve to be in the playoff.
ND has a weak schedule you say? Who beat 13th ranked Oklahoma? Texas. Who just crushed #3 Utah? USC. Who shocked no. 9 Florida State? Georgia Tech. You get the drift? All those teams that won those games recently, were beaten by ND. Now, ND is going on the road in back-to-back weeks against top-25 teams and finish up at top-10 Stanford.
Boldsparty, you're delusional.
ND has a weak schedule you say? Who beat 13th ranked Oklahoma? Texas. Who just crushed #3 Utah? USC. Who shocked no. 9 Florida State? Georgia Tech. You get the drift? All those teams that won those games recently, were beaten by ND. Now, ND is going on the road in back-to-back weeks against top-25 teams and finish up at top-10 Stanford.
Boldsparty, you're delusional.
Michigan also has all this fake NC painted all over the stadium - Guess they try to out do each other in make belief NC's as well.
Check out this number if we did "their math". I wonder what boldsparky thinks of this...
http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/active/n/notre_dame/all_national_champs.php
This is a great 'bama video on their bs titles. Unfortunately, the music was taken down, but the content is excellent.
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First... I am only worried about Notre Dame winning this coming game against a good Temple team. Second... for fan of a team in the Big10 to talk smack about strength of schedule is very funny.
Either way I actually hope you guys beat Ohio St. but I don't think it will happen. You guys will either barely beat them, which is fine with me just like with Michigan, or you will get smacked by 20+ which is what I think will happen. Then you can come back and talk about playoffs since according to you neither of our programs, if we both finish with 1 loss, would have a shot lol.
Again, I will take 11-1 and a win in a big bowl game any year and especially one where our team loses its starting QB, DE, and both RB's before the season started (Zaire of course second game but close enough for a first year starter) Go Irish!!!
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