Injuries Drop 87%

[Syd4ND]

ND to introduce it's new S&C coach at Camp Culver!!!!

Sneak peek!

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Builds great glutes!

 

[cgvr]

Builds great glutes!

Plus, he'll fit in great with 'smores, weenie roasts, singing around campfires....

PS I'd be careful saying weenie roast around him though...

 

[Syd4ND]

Plus, he'll fit in great with 'smores, weenie roasts, singing around campfires....

PS I'd be careful saying weenie roast around him though...

George Takei and Richard Simmons are without a doubt two of the best guests on Howard Stern.

 

[cgvr]

George Takei and Richard Simmons are without a doubt two of the best guests on Howard Stern.

Hysterical segments....

 

[IrishBlessings]

You nailed the two injuries that were borderline. Although force was applied in the Folston Injury, it did not appear to be caused by the tackle. I thought the injury came on the cut. Tranquill's injury came when he landed. You would be shocked at how many times you see this type of injury from jumping and landing (more common in basketball.) In this case the Trauma comes from impacting the ground or landing. If you look at the relatively small sample size of the NFL there were two such injuries last year off the top of my head. Tulloch and Houston both severely injured themselves jumping during a celebration.

With regard to the frugality of the university, I know there has been investments being made. A few of them were late, but I truly believe that Swarbrick has done a wonderful job at increasing the investment into athletics by the university.

I agree that not all S&C programs are the same, and Stanford really has a great program. I know Shannon Turley's work well. I respect the hell out of him. This is not a criticism of him or the strength program he leads. He would agree with me as well. Out of Notre Dame's 20 or so injuries where a player missed a game, maybe 1 or 2 could be considered preventable through training. Maybe.

As for the ankle turn by Kevin Hogan, that truly would result in ligament damage and missed time for most players. There are 3 keys to each injury:
1. Genetics - You can't train away bad genetics and you can't train in good genetics. For Hogan to not tear a ligament in the scenario you described (I did not see it) good genetics will trump all.
2. Training - increased flexibility is very important and cannot be removed from the equation.
3. Prior History - Was there a prior injury or other factors that mitigated the severity.

This was the first and probably last time I will post here. I read a few forums in my spare time and never post. I happened to read this thread because it is in my wheelhouse. I have had the privilege of working with some of the best and most innovative minds in the medical field. Some of whom have worked as professional team physicians. We have had more conversation about these types of injuries than I can remember, and I felt like that experience could prove useful to this topic. I know some on here don't like to think that luck is involved. I regret to inform you that it is. Football is a collision sport. Every player that sees the field is at risk of severe injury. Whether from stress that they create or a player hitting them. There are far too many variables to prevent catastrophic injury.

Have a great 2016 and I'll see you for the spring game!

GO IRISH

Thanks Coach Longo. Now get in touch w/ Coach Turley from Stanford and share ideas. Incorporate what works for Stanford and bring that to ND. The best coaches always steal ideas from others all the time who have great success. ND has been snake bitten two years in arow w/ injuries. But, the ways things are being done should always be reviewed and tweaked to make them even better. Be proactive. Be cutting edge.

 

[BDIrish]

I'm a personal trainer and strength and conditioning coach and a lot of the knee injuries that have occurred the past 2 years are preventable and don't 'assume' that the training protocol is not out dated!! Stanford has the #1 strength coach in the country and Stanford experiences way less injuries than ND!!

If you think Notre Dame has entrusted the physical well being of all it's football players to just one guy you are mistaken . ie orthopedic surgeons ( team doctors ) are part of the operation in addition to other trainers and physical therapists

Also if you think Longo is doing something that would contribute to knee injuries you are also mistaken .

If there are exercises that prevent knee injuries the team is doing them .

If there are exercises that increased the chances of knee injuries ND would not be doing them .

I trust medical practitioners ( doctors - therapists ) and trained professionals ( trainers ) more than internet posters - don't you ?

 

[BDIrish]

From 2006, the year before Turley arrived on the Farm, as Stanford’s campus is known, through last season, the number of games missed because of injury on the two-deep roster dropped by 87 percent. In 2012, only two Cardinal players required season-ending or postseason surgical repair; this year, only one.

Bad luck years as well. Never seen a year where every team I support pro and college have been devastated by injuries.

 

[BDIrish]

I agree luck is involved. I just believe it's getting too much credit.

Take Jaylon Smiths injury for example. He was pushed, a cheap shot, nonetheless. However flexibility and balance may have prevented the injury. For example, when getting pushed and being in an awkward position, you can teach yourself to respond by letting yourself fall and roll out, instead of locking your knee to try to prevent the fall.

Those are not easy things to learn and is a skill to develop. I just believe there is more to it than luck.

People put themselves in a better position to have better luck.

From 2006, the year before Turley arrived on the Farm, as Stanford’s campus is known, through last season, the number of games missed because of injury on the two-deep roster dropped by 87 percent. In 2012, only two Cardinal players required season-ending or postseason surgical repair; this year, only one.