If I'm Brian Kelly Today

[IrishInOntario]

I take control of and accountability for my program. This is what my Sunday would look like.

My first meeting would have been with Brian Van Gorder this morning, thanking him for his services and showing him the door.

My second meeting would be with the rest of my defense staff, explaining to then that I was going to allow my talented offensive staff to do their thing and that I would be taking over as the acting defensive coordinator through the season.

My third meeting would be a private one with Todd Lyght, asking him what he needs and explaining to him that I will work with him through-and-through, but that he has until season's end to start developing his players or that he'll be looking for work in the off season.

My fourth meeting would be with Scott Booker, relieving him of his duties as the TE coach because they are deplorable and explaining to him that his sole job will to focus on special teams and that if he doesn't improve the unit, he will be looking for work in the off season.

My fifth meeting would be with Jeff Quinn, telling him that he's the new TE coach and the would now be collaborating with Denbrock and Sanford to run the offense on a weekly basis.

My sixth meeting would be with the entire offensive staff, explaining to then that Denbrock is the boss and that everybody answers to him and that Denbrock will run things through Kelly for final say, the way Van Gorder does now, but that the focus of the head coach was shifting to the defense.

My final meeting would be to the players. I would take personal accountability for the 1-2 staff and explain to the players that they've been let down in their development on defense and that the team must stick together and as a family, who loves and cares for each other, this is going to get fixed. Minute-by-minute, day-by-say.

You bring everyone together and go back to what got you here. Coaching the the part of the team that needs you the most. Your defensive players and staff.

You rally this team to a 9-3 finish, keep your recruiting class intact and spend whatever it takes to hire a YOUNG, bright defensive coordinator who motivates his players and focuses on development and attitude over scheme complexity.

 

[ftnfan62]

No issues with the plan other than relieving coaches. Too early but never too early for a good old fashion ass chewing with some micro management

 

[Get Nasty]

You read my post first?

 

[IrishInOntario]

You read my post first?

I didn't, but if you wrote the same thing it makes me happy that somebody else has sees it that way.

 

[Get Nasty]

I didn't, but if you wrote the same thing it makes me happy that somebody else has sees it that way.

very similar comments, although i started it by stating i would have sent everyone home players, coaches, etc right after the game and told them to come back in at 10am and I (coach kelly) would have decisions made about the direction of the season and program.

I started the thread about 10 down or so.

If i thought an awesome coach would come to ND i would want Kelly gone, but I don't see it happening. He needs a better staff.

 

[cgvr]

I take control of and accountability for my program. This is what my Sunday would look like.

My first meeting would have been with Brian Van Gorder this morning, thanking him for his services and showing him the door.

My second meeting would be with the rest of my defense staff, explaining to then that I was going to allow my talented offensive staff to do their thing and that I would be taking over as the acting defensive coordinator through the season.

My third meeting would be a private one with Todd Lyght, asking him what he needs and explaining to him that I will work with him through-and-through, but that he has until season's end to start developing his players or that he'll be looking for work in the off season.

My fourth meeting would be with Scott Booker, relieving him of his duties as the TE coach because they are deplorable and explaining to him that his sole job will to focus on special teams and that if he doesn't improve the unit, he will be looking for work in the off season.

My fifth meeting would be with Jeff Quinn, telling him that he's the new TE coach and the would now be collaborating with Denbrock and Sanford to run the offense on a weekly basis.

My sixth meeting would be with the entire offensive staff, explaining to then that Denbrock is the boss and that everybody answers to him and that Denbrock will run things through Kelly for final say, the way Van Gorder does now, but that the focus of the head coach was shifting to the defense.

My final meeting would be to the players. I would take personal accountability for the 1-2 staff and explain to the players that they've been let down in their development on defense and that the team must stick together and as a family, who loves and cares for each other, this is going to get fixed. Minute-by-minute, day-by-say.

You bring everyone together and go back to what got you here. Coaching the the part of the team that needs you the most. Your defensive players and staff.

You rally this team to a 9-3 finish, keep your recruiting class intact and spend whatever it takes to hire a YOUNG, bright defensive coordinator who motivates his players and focuses on development and attitude over scheme complexity.

Instead, he is calling his agent and finding out that he is a "pink sheet" penny stock with zero market cap.
He stinks....and is very very stupid...

 

[greengael]

I didn't, but if you wrote the same thing it makes me happy that somebody else has sees it that way.

Yeah that must be a novel experience for you! Exactly what is your Leadership/ Management experience? I seem to recall it has been at the high school level.. No?

 

[Get Nasty]

Yeah that must be a novel experience for you! Exactly what is your Leadership/ Management experience? I seem to recall it has been at the high school level.. No?

C'mon man, no one here is claiming to be better than BK or BVG, but it is very clear after 29 games that BVG can not coach D. Maybe he can call a great game, but he sure can't coach and prepare the players. BK should be on the hot seat, he lost how many in a row in 2014? and now he's lost 4 out of 5. Hasn't beaten a top 10 team in his 7 years. I'm not ready to call for his head, but he should be looking in the mirror because the offensive decisions and play calling this year have been terrible. When we start pushing the ball down the field we have success ,but we only do that when we're down big.

 

[greengael]

C'mon man, no one here is claiming to be better than BK or BVG, but it is very clear after 29 games that BVG can not coach D. Maybe he can call a great game, but he sure can't coach and prepare the players. BK should be on the hot seat, he lost how many in a row in 2014? and now he's lost 4 out of 5. Hasn't beaten a top 10 team in his 7 years. I'm not ready to call for his head, but he should be looking in the mirror because the offensive decisions and play calling this year have been terrible. When we start pushing the ball down the field we have success ,but we only do that when we're down big.

Responding to the original poster not you.

 

[captstabbin]

Offer Wade Phillips 5 mil.......to be the d coordinator.

 

[HRC08]

I totally agree with the original poster. However, I'd also include Harry in one of those meetings as I feel the offensive line is playing just OK. I said before the Texas game that that unit has to play elite every single snap. It's not good enough to just play as good as the wide receiver unit or as good as the quarterback. Notre Dame needs its offensive line to be the best in the country!

 

[hvillebill]

I totally agree with the original poster. However, I'd also include Harry in one of those meetings as I feel the offensive line is playing just OK. I said before the Texas game that that unit has to play elite every single snap. It's not good enough to just play as good as the wide receiver unit or as good as the quarterback. Notre Dame needs its offensive line to be the best in the country!

That's right. Defenders are coming up the "A" gap easily every game.

 

[theskibro]

I take control of and accountability for my program. This is what my Sunday would look like.

My first meeting would have been with Brian Van Gorder this morning, thanking him for his services and showing him the door.

My second meeting would be with the rest of my defense staff, explaining to then that I was going to allow my talented offensive staff to do their thing and that I would be taking over as the acting defensive coordinator through the season.

My third meeting would be a private one with Todd Lyght, asking him what he needs and explaining to him that I will work with him through-and-through, but that he has until season's end to start developing his players or that he'll be looking for work in the off season.

My fourth meeting would be with Scott Booker, relieving him of his duties as the TE coach because they are deplorable and explaining to him that his sole job will to focus on special teams and that if he doesn't improve the unit, he will be looking for work in the off season.

My fifth meeting would be with Jeff Quinn, telling him that he's the new TE coach and the would now be collaborating with Denbrock and Sanford to run the offense on a weekly basis.

My sixth meeting would be with the entire offensive staff, explaining to then that Denbrock is the boss and that everybody answers to him and that Denbrock will run things through Kelly for final say, the way Van Gorder does now, but that the focus of the head coach was shifting to the defense.

My final meeting would be to the players. I would take personal accountability for the 1-2 staff and explain to the players that they've been let down in their development on defense and that the team must stick together and as a family, who loves and cares for each other, this is going to get fixed. Minute-by-minute, day-by-say.

You bring everyone together and go back to what got you here. Coaching the the part of the team that needs you the most. Your defensive players and staff.

You rally this team to a 9-3 finish, keep your recruiting class intact and spend whatever it takes to hire a YOUNG, bright defensive coordinator who motivates his players and focuses on development and attitude over scheme complexity.

All valid and spot on except the O line is horrendous also

And the worst thing about being an ND fan is none of this is going to happen

Jack has no balls. Jenkins will light a candle.

 

[Legendsteve]

Why would Kelly fire anyone? He hired them all.

 

[Shakin' Down the Thunder]

I take control of and accountability for my program. This is what my Sunday would look like.

My first meeting would have been with Brian Van Gorder this morning, thanking him for his services and showing him the door.

My second meeting would be with the rest of my defense staff, explaining to then that I was going to allow my talented offensive staff to do their thing and that I would be taking over as the acting defensive coordinator through the season.

My third meeting would be a private one with Todd Lyght, asking him what he needs and explaining to him that I will work with him through-and-through, but that he has until season's end to start developing his players or that he'll be looking for work in the off season.

My fourth meeting would be with Scott Booker, relieving him of his duties as the TE coach because they are deplorable and explaining to him that his sole job will to focus on special teams and that if he doesn't improve the unit, he will be looking for work in the off season.

My fifth meeting would be with Jeff Quinn, telling him that he's the new TE coach and the would now be collaborating with Denbrock and Sanford to run the offense on a weekly basis.

My sixth meeting would be with the entire offensive staff, explaining to then that Denbrock is the boss and that everybody answers to him and that Denbrock will run things through Kelly for final say, the way Van Gorder does now, but that the focus of the head coach was shifting to the defense.

My final meeting would be to the players. I would take personal accountability for the 1-2 staff and explain to the players that they've been let down in their development on defense and that the team must stick together and as a family, who loves and cares for each other, this is going to get fixed. Minute-by-minute, day-by-say.

You bring everyone together and go back to what got you here. Coaching the the part of the team that needs you the most. Your defensive players and staff.

You rally this team to a 9-3 finish, keep your recruiting class intact and spend whatever it takes to hire a YOUNG, bright defensive coordinator who motivates his players and focuses on development and attitude over scheme complexity.

But therein lies the problem. ND fans like you create this well thought out plan for Kelly, but forget the fact that Kelly is in his 7th season. Does anyone think that Meyer and Saban would need to have all these meetings in the 7th year of their program? It's not so much that I disagree with your ideas IIO, but that the need for such meetings show proof that Kelly is not the man for the job. As far as I'm concerned, the only meeting that needs to takes place, is Kelly explaining to Swarbrick, why he is worth the extension that ends in 2021.

 

[Get Nasty]

But therein lies the problem. ND fans like you create this well thought out plan for Kelly, but forget the fact that Kelly is in his 7th season. Does anyone think that Meyer and Saban would need to have all these meetings in the 7th year of their program? It's not so much that I disagree with your ideas IIO, but that the need for such meetings show proof that Kelly is not the man for the job. As far as I'm concerned, the only meeting that needs to takes place, is Kelly explaining to Swarbrick, why he is worth the extension that ends in 2021.

Urban Meyer did need to have these meetings in his 6th season at Florida as they went 7-5.......Instead he ran away like the beotch that he is. Does that make you feel better?

 

[perseverare]

well: 1st thing actually would be meet with your agent!

but as to the OP
after all that you still will not have a pass rush! why? it is a matter of personel.
3+ years of poor defensive recruiting and ta-dah!
Meeting after meeting, shuffle after shuffle and you will be right back to that reality!

oh, end the Tillery at DT thing! Best move: OL next best move: DE
I cannot believe that the staff continues this misconception!

Since none of the TE's can catch anything except a 'cold' move one of the taller WR's there to get the TE involved in the passing game!

I just cannot believe these guys (staff) gets paid for the kind of job they are doing!

 

[IrishInOntario]

What makes Urban Meyer a fantastic coach is two things.

1. He is the best recruiter in the country. He was at Florida and he's putting together among the best classes ever assembled at Ohio State.

2. He is willing to reinvent his systems to fit his personnel. That's what he did when Chris Leak left and Tim Tebow became his guy. Now he's back to running similar systems to what he ran with Alex Smith at Utah now that he has those type of quarterbacks again.

Opposing fan bases hate him, but he's a wonderful college football coach in many, many ways.

 

[wiu86]

Right on the money, IIO. I think Meyer is the best coach in the country. I am not a BK hater. I don't think-at least at this level-that he is a good coach. Poor gameday decisions started from day 1. Recruiting does not seem to be great either

 

[Get Nasty]

What makes Urban Meyer a fantastic coach is two things.

1. He is the best recruiter in the country. He was at Florida and he's putting together among the best classes ever assembled at Ohio State.

2. He is willing to reinvent his systems to fit his personnel. That's what he did when Chris Leak left and Tim Tebow became his guy. Now he's back to running similar systems to what he ran with Alex Smith at Utah now that he has those type of quarterbacks again.

Opposing fan bases hate him, but he's a wonderful college football coach in many, many ways.

He is hated because he wins and is a poor human being. He will stick up for his family and team, but he will not treat anyone else with the respect they deserve.

He runs an extremely fun attacking offense and attacking defense. We have the WRs, OLine, and QBs to run the same offense, but we just don't have the quickness and catching ability out of the backfield that OSU recruits. WE clearly don't have the athletes at any position on D except for LB to attack.

 

[zonairish]

What makes Urban Meyer a fantastic coach is two things.

1. He is the best recruiter in the country. He was at Florida and he's putting together among the best classes ever assembled at Ohio State.

2. He is willing to reinvent his systems to fit his personnel. That's what he did when Chris Leak left and Tim Tebow became his guy. Now he's back to running similar systems to what he ran with Alex Smith at Utah now that he has those type of quarterbacks again.

Opposing fan bases hate him, but he's a wonderful college football coach in many, many ways.

I do not want to sound like cvgr or other haters but who could Notre Dame get if they fire Kelly and how much is admin willing to work with any coach. Actually I think Kelly is a good coach he has done it at lower level programs with less talent. What I think he lacks is the ability to be tough on the coach's he has. Thing about Holtz if he thought a coach was not doing his job he was gone.

 

[Get Nasty]

I do not want to sound like cvgr or other haters but who could Notre Dame get if they fire Kelly and how much is admin willing to work with any coach. Actually I think Kelly is a good coach he has done it at lower level programs with less talent. What I think he lacks is the ability to be tough on the coach's he has. Thing about Holtz if he thought a coach was not doing his job he was gone.

I would think assistant coaches and coordinators would love to come to ND. Ton of spotlight without the insane pressure and time allocations the HC gets. Now our pay might not be the best but ND should have up and coming studs as coordinators, not has beens or never has beens.

 

[FLballcoach1]

Offer Wade Phillips 5 mil.......to be the d coordinator.

The same Wade Phillips who was fired at Dallas in 2010? The same Wade Phillips who was fired at Houston in 2013? The same Wade Phillips who has not coached College Football since 1975? The same Wade Phillips who is 69 years old?

I hope you are not seriously offering this as a solution. It is a big joke right?

 

[IrishInOntario]

ND does not need a tired, old, NFL style defensive coordinator who will not be excited to recruit and whose archaic scheme was designed to defend the slow footed, 5 and 7 step drop passing attacks of the NFL past... we have that guy in BVG and he's terrible.

The game has changed and ND must keep up. ND needs the defensive equivalent of a Mike Sanford. A young, hungry, up-and-coming DC with a lot to prove, the willingness and excitement to recruit, with a college-suited scheme that kids can learn within a year of being in the program... It needs to focus on attitude, excitement, fundamentals and technique. This isn't the NFL where players are paid to have unlimited time to master the scheme. ND needs something practical and a coordinator that will give ND the recruit lift it needs on that side of the ball, along with the fundamental toughness and pride needed to play top 25 defense.

Those guys exist. Sanford is a prime example. Brian Kelly just needs to do better with his next hire.

 

[captstabbin]

The same Wade Phillips who was fired at Dallas in 2010? The same Wade Phillips who was fired at Houston in 2013? The same Wade Phillips who has not coached College Football since 1975? The same Wade Phillips who is 69 years old?

I hope you are not seriously offering this as a solution. It is a big joke right?

I was sort of joking, but the same Wade Phillips who has had the best Defense in the NFL the past 2 seasons....IN A LONG TIME....yes him. Again it was a joke. I was watching the Broncos D humble the Colts yesterday. Settle down man.....jeesh. Feel better?

 

[cgvr]

I was sort of joking, but the same Wade Phillips who has had the best Defense in the NFL the past 2 seasons....IN A LONG TIME....yes him. Again it was a joke. I was watching the Broncos D humble the Colts yesterday. Settle down man.....jeesh. Feel better?

He snorts nitrous oxide for breakfast, sniffs glue then takes his PEDs...

 

[Pennick44]

I take control of and accountability for my program. This is what my Sunday would look like.

My first meeting would have been with Brian Van Gorder this morning, thanking him for his services and showing him the door.

My second meeting would be with the rest of my defense staff, explaining to then that I was going to allow my talented offensive staff to do their thing and that I would be taking over as the acting defensive coordinator through the season.

My third meeting would be a private one with Todd Lyght, asking him what he needs and explaining to him that I will work with him through-and-through, but that he has until season's end to start developing his players or that he'll be looking for work in the off season.

My fourth meeting would be with Scott Booker, relieving him of his duties as the TE coach because they are deplorable and explaining to him that his sole job will to focus on special teams and that if he doesn't improve the unit, he will be looking for work in the off season.

My fifth meeting would be with Jeff Quinn, telling him that he's the new TE coach and the would now be collaborating with Denbrock and Sanford to run the offense on a weekly basis.

My sixth meeting would be with the entire offensive staff, explaining to then that Denbrock is the boss and that everybody answers to him and that Denbrock will run things through Kelly for final say, the way Van Gorder does now, but that the focus of the head coach was shifting to the defense.

My final meeting would be to the players. I would take personal accountability for the 1-2 staff and explain to the players that they've been let down in their development on defense and that the team must stick together and as a family, who loves and cares for each other, this is going to get fixed. Minute-by-minute, day-by-say.

You bring everyone together and go back to what got you here. Coaching the the part of the team that needs you the most. Your defensive players and staff.

You rally this team to a 9-3 finish, keep your recruiting class intact and spend whatever it takes to hire a YOUNG, bright defensive coordinator who motivates his players and focuses on development and attitude over scheme complexity.

You would insert Matty Mauk?

 

[stu4don]

ND does not need a tired, old, NFL style defensive coordinator who will not be excited to recruit and whose archaic scheme was designed to defend the slow footed, 5 and 7 step drop passing attacks of the NFL past... we have that guy in BVG and he's terrible.

The game has changed and ND must keep up. ND needs the defensive equivalent of a Mike Sanford. A young, hungry, up-and-coming DC with a lot to prove, the willingness and excitement to recruit, with a college-suited scheme that kids can learn within a year of being in the program... It needs to focus on attitude, excitement, fundamentals and technique. This isn't the NFL where players are paid to have unlimited time to master the scheme. ND needs something practical and a coordinator that will give ND the recruit lift it needs on that side of the ball, along with the fundamental toughness and pride needed to play top 25 defense.

Those guys exist. Sanford is a prime example. Brian Kelly just needs to do better with his next hire.

Sanford has done an amazing job with Kizer. And Diaco did a similar job with guys like Zeke Motta and Kapron Lewis-Moore and a Freshman KV Russell, Nix and Bennett Jackson! (Not to mention studs like Manti and Tuitt.) I can't think of one person BVG has developed. Sheldon Day and Jaylon where both studs but I really think they could have been better with a real college DC. (All right, hard to improve on Jaylon -- although remember Manti go invited to the Heismann!.) But it is the second tier guys -- Redfield, Russell, Luke, Coleman, J Jones, Tillery who have not developed or have gone backwards under BVG. We tackled under Diaco.

Agreed IIO -- but can Kelly coach defense?

 

[IrishInOntario]

You would insert Matty Mauk?

Over Tommy Rees, in terms of talent. All day, every day.

 

[IrishInOntario]

Sanford has done an amazing job with Kizer. And Diaco did a similar job with guys like Zeke Motta and Kapron Lewis-Moore and a Freshman KV Russell, Nix and Bennett Jackson! (Not to mention studs like Manti and Tuitt.) I can't think of one person BVG has developed. Sheldon Day and Jaylon where both studs but I really think they could have been better with a real college DC. (All right, hard to improve on Jaylon -- although remember Manti go invited to the Heismann!.) But it is the second tier guys -- Redfield, Russell, Luke, Coleman, J Jones, Tillery who have not developed or have gone backwards under BVG. We tackled under Diaco.

Agreed IIO -- but can Kelly coach defense?

KELLY was a DC before he was an OC and he was a college linebacker. A high school coach could reach cover 1 and Cover 3 with zone blitz concepts, which is essentially what Diaco runs with Some sting mixed in and games up front.

 

[Pennick44]

KELLY was a DC before he was an OC and he was a college linebacker. A high school coach could reach cover 1 and Cover 3 with zone blitz concepts, which is essentially what Diaco runs with Some sting mixed in and games up front.

We play 11 man football down here and don't have the goalposts in field of play. Are you still going to take credit for C. Claypool?

 

[IrishInOntario]

We play 11 man football down here and don't have the goalposts in field of play. Are you still going to take credit for C. Claypool?

Quite aware of your football. Lived down there. Worked for Mike Frank at ISD and spent time around the ND program. Also have been coming to ND games my entire life, have been around football since I was born, coached at the high school level and under Jamie Barresi (Emitt Smith's RB coach at Florida), while at the University of Ottawa... And I'm not responsible for CLAYPOOL, but I was one of a number of a number of Canadian coaches that supported him.

Feel free to continue your arrogance though. Clearly it's not possible for anyone outside of America to know anything about football... Just like there isn't an American a live who knows anything about hockey....

 

[cgvr]

KELLY was a DC before he was an OC and he was a college linebacker. A high school coach could reach cover 1 and Cover 3 with zone blitz concepts, which is essentially what Diaco runs with Some sting mixed in and games up front.

Plus, he was a woman's softball coach.

 

[VTND]

i could see Diaco coming back. Isnt he struggling at uconn?

 

[VTND]

nvm

 

[Java65]

Quite aware of your football. Lived down there. Worked for Mike Frank at ISD and spent time around the ND program. Also have been coming to ND games my entire life, have been around football since I was born, coached at the high school level and under Jamie Barresi (Emitt Smith's RB coach at Florida), while at the University of Ottawa... And I'm not responsible for CLAYPOOL, but I was one of a number of a number of Canadian coaches that supported him.

Feel free to continue your arrogance though. Clearly it's not possible for anyone outside of America to know anything about football... Just like there isn't an American a live who knows anything about hockey....

I remember you. I was a long time member of ISD. I was a member back when Mike Frank was with scout.

 

[zonairish]

matty Mauck not sure why this brought up. He was talented and unfortunately he went the way of jonny football.

 

[stu4don]

Diaco is 2-1 with a close loss to Navy and a win over that tough Virginia team that dominated BVG's talented (Sheldon Day, Jaylon Smith, Matthias Farley, KV Russell all found a spot on Sundays) but poorly coached defense.

Diaco keeps the other teams offense scoring totals in the low 20s. I remember suffering through those long opposing team drives in 2012 but Diaco's d always kept the scores down, with Kelly's quick score offense (esp. now that we have Kizer) we'd be 3-0. If Diaco was the D coordinator last year we would have beaten Clemson and Standford. Jus saying'.

Diaco ain't going anywhere. (Although I am curious how they do vs. Houston! Yikes.)

We need to find the next Diaco.

 

[FLballcoach1]

I was sort of joking, but the same Wade Phillips who has had the best Defense in the NFL the past 2 seasons....IN A LONG TIME....yes him. Again it was a joke. I was watching the Broncos D humble the Colts yesterday. Settle down man.....jeesh. Feel better?

With all the hate, vitriol being spewed on this forum I wasn't aware anyone still had a sense of humor. Glad to hear it was joke.

Matty Mauk was brought up because the guy from Canada referred to him as the prototype Spread QB ND should be looking at. Well, the reality is he was an undersized barely 50% passer and a complete bust.

ND's issues do not revolve around QB. ND cannot play the most basic of coverage's, leverage the football, tackle cleanly and keep gap discipline. If coaching harder does not yield results, you replace the player, if the same mistakes are being made by the new player, then you replace the coach.

 

[FLballcoach1]

Plus, he was a woman's softball coach.

Did you try to sneak on the girls softball roster and BK caught you, Is that why you hate him so much? You would think if would be difficult to make 6,932 posts and not have one of any value or substance. But you my friend make it look easy. Welcome to ignore