I believe this team has an 8-4 or 9-3 ceiling

[jtefel1]

What do you guys think? The DL will have serious depth issues just as the safety position.

On offense, if you have two quarterbacks you have none so we will continue to struggle. On top of that Kelly brought in Quinn who will keep Sanford on a leash and will create friction among the coaching staff.

This has a recipe for disaster.

 

[Bodizephax]

I see great talent. Great depth. Great coaching. A manageable schedule.

I don't see a ceiling. I see stars in the night sky !

Irish 14 and 0 !

 

[jtefel1]

Originally posted by Bodizephax:

I see great talent. Great depth. Great coaching. A manageable schedule.

I don't see a ceiling. I see stars in the night sky !

Irish 14 and 0 !

Really? a team and coach that lost to NW and Louisville? A team that barely beat NC and Navy?

BVG's complicated defense will continue to create problems both pre snap and post snap for the defense.

 

[dagimpper1]

You,my friend are a pessimist. This years team has the potential to beat any team. Now lets hope there are no surprises as in bad.

 

[jtefel1]

Every year we have the potential of winning 10 or 11 games yet we do it once every blue moon.....what gives?

 

[Pennick4]

Originally posted by jtefel1:
What do you guys think? The DL will have serious depth issues just as the safety position.

On offense, if you have two quarterbacks you have none so we will continue to struggle. On top of that Kelly brought in Quinn who will keep Sanford on a leash and will create friction among the coaching staff.

This has a recipe for disaster.

First of all, most ceilings have 1 dimension. The DL is going to have more depth than they have had in years.
If Coach Sanford is worried about the input of the offensive coaching analyst Jeff Quinn, then he never should have been hired for the job in the first place.

 

[SouthernIrish1]

There is no excuse why this team should not be able to win at least 10 games unless we have another M.A.S.H. tent on campus. We need to start winning the games we are supposed to.

 

[tkirish]

Based on the last 5 years I would agree that this is a 8 or 9 win team. However, unlike the previous 5 seasons, ND has the rare combination of talent , experience and depth not seen in a long time. If there was ever a year to make a real run at a national championship, it this upcoming one.

 

[perseverare]

while I would say 5-7 is as likely as 12-0; (injuries vs perfect luck) I think 11 would be the cieling; 9 likely; 5 the floor.

 

[Toby Smart]

Besides Texas, G Tech, Clemson, Navy, USC, Pitt, BC, and Stanford, you have the very real possibility of off season escapades, academic issues, injuries, transfers, and the team just plain wallowing in the muck of turnovers and an epidemic of penalties. This 2015 has the potential of beating anyone on the schedule and the possibility of losing to the programs listed above. With the history of BK's ups and downs at ND, 2015 is one big fat question mark. Is the team depth Final Four quality or is it "one year away"? I think our QB play will be mighty fine and the offense will put up points big time. It's the "D" and Special Teams that is a concern. Our Scoring Defense and third Down Pct on defense has to positively absolutely get better or we will be looking at another type NY bowl. I see two losses with the potential for another one of those maddening Brian Kelly type losses. Good gosh almighty. I hope I am wrong.

 

[Kelso86]

"Really? a team and coach that lost to NW and Louisville? "

Those teams were depleted defensively -- and yet only lost by a total of 6 points -- all things being equal, ND wins both.

 

[continuallyirish]

Originally posted by perseverare:
while I would say 5-7 is as likely as 12-0; (injuries vs perfect luck) I think 11 would be the cieling; 9 likely; 5 the floor.

Over the last7 yrs Kelly coached teams have won 11+ 12 twice in a season he has never coached a team that finished under 500

So you are saying he is as likely to field a team that could go 5-7 as he coaching a team that goes 12-0 ?? the team in question this yr is the same team that started 8-0 last yr before injuries - got some players back from injuries and put up 150 more yds vs LSU than Alabama did
It appears you know nothing about how to evaluate statistics, trends or records which is remedial math

 

[SALittleGiant513]

Lol out of all the posts on this thread you get mad about that one? 9-11 wins, which is what perse indicated is the most likely scenario, is pretty fair. Taylor Swift has written a couple songs about you it seems.

 

[Bodizephax]

 

[SALittleGiant513]

As a young lawyer i can say without a doubt the first couple of episodes of Better Call Saul nail on the head the intense agony one feels right after being licensed when they are out on their own. Before I got on with a firm there where days where you hustle and hustle but really you are just looking at your e-mail and phone and hoping someone calls to hire you. Really optimistic about that show.

 

[Bodizephax]

I am optimistic about the show, too. It is fun rooting for the little guy. The show has kind of been all over the place but there have been moments and some real good acting. Just three more shows this season. I wonder what become of the blonde girl lawyer and Jimmies (Saul) brother? Will they meet a tragic end? (They were not in Sauls life at all in BB)

 

[SALittleGiant513]

I mean with this writing group are there ever really happy endings? Its really all just shades of sad endings.

 

[Bodizephax]

I thought BB had a happy ending.,
This post was edited on 3/20 10:29 PM by Bodizephax

 

[SALittleGiant513]

To a degree but it wasn't as though Walt rode off into the sunset with his money and family. Jesse got a second chance but he was pretty broken by the end of the day. The happy ending was tinted with some darkness which don't get me wrong is a big reason why I loved the series.

 

[nook91]

8-4 (on average) coach; 12-1 was the aberration

8-4 team with a 9-3 ceiling

Agreed

 

[bizzybecknd]

SAL- of all the posts on here, you took exception with Continuals? The poster said every year this team has a 10-11 win potential but 8-9 ceiling. Is there really a difference in ceiling and potential?

 

[echowaker]

Originally posted by jtefel1:
What do you guys think? The DL will have serious depth issues just as the safety position.

On offense, if you have two quarterbacks you have none so we will continue to struggle. On top of that Kelly brought in Quinn who will keep Sanford on a leash and will create friction among the coaching staff.

This has a recipe for disaster.

wow is that a silly post.

 

[perseverare]

Sal:
he is 'special'; his motivation is quite different. As a poster he really needs to be disregarded as it is impossible for him to offer objective unbiased opinion. Also, he is of "Borg"

Your a smart guy, you can discern this.

I expect if ND does go 11 W's he will not be on this board thereafter.

Occams Razor.

 

[perseverare]

An important aspect of how this staff develops will be how the Quinn/Sanford relationship develops. There is a history between Quinn/Kelly. Quinn had the role that Sanford has.

It's not rediculous to say there is the potential for some sort of tensions in the Kelly, Quinn,Sanford three headed OC assignment. Clearly Quinn was not brought in to monitor or analyse the defense.

I have said the individually this staff has real talent but can that talent function as a team within a team. So goes the staff so goes the team (that 5% can be a determinant)

(some might recall the days when the Cubs assembled a team Manager by committee; a colossal failure!)



This post was edited on 3/21 8:19 AM by perseverare

 

[onlyonenow]

10 wins should be expected by this team baring a load of injuries.

Now that is realistic and those saying less are frankly either stupid or not real fans.

We needed several breaks to go 12-0 in 2012 and that is the way it is with most teams. That penalty not called and we beat FSU. Conversely one or two plays and we do not beat a couple of others.

Almost all of our losses came down to a couple of plays. Only one game did we really get waxed and that was USC. Arizona State was just plain strange.

 

[perseverare]

^

just to be clear: fans who think < 10 wins are either stupid or 'not real fans' ; is that what you are saying?

 

[IrishBlooded]

Believe this is a 10 to 11 win squad as it is.

Yes there are issues on depth at safety. How was the secondary in 2012? I believe there was only 1 starter that had experience from 2011. And they moved two offensive guys (Russel, Farley) to the secondary for the 2012 season.

You can scheme and game plan around that. What you can't do is go super vanilla like ND did in 2012. Minus a couple of lucky breaks that could have been a 9 win season as well.

I don't believe with 11 wins on this schedule that ND is a given for the play off though. Depends on conference champs. And what their final records are. If they win ala Ohio State over Wisky type wins from last year, then ND will play the TCU role of last year. And end on a New Years Day bowl

 

[perseverare]

question:

what is the 1 player that ND cannot afford to lose to injuy or ?; the irreplaceable guy that has a direct and impactable influence on the season? (cannot pick a coach)

 

[Bodizephax]

Notre Dame is finally at the position where there are no irreplaceable players. I can not name one guy who IF we lost would hurt the season. We have depth everywhere. We haven't been in this position since Holtz.

 

[IrishBlooded]

Originally posted by perseverare:
question:

what is the 1 player that ND cannot afford to lose to injuy or ?; the irreplaceable guy that has a direct and impactable influence on the season? (cannot pick a coach)

Well last year it proved to be Schmidt, I would say this year possibly Redfield just due to lack of depth.

However a loss of Folston if this season is like last season would be tremendous.

After that Day, Rochell, Jones, the main defensive line players

 

[onlyonenow]

frankly perse I don't think you are a real ND fan and I also don't think you are very football smart

 

[perseverare]

ah, so you make a foolish statement and then follow it with another!
I was a ND fan long before you saw a football; and I saw winning football at ND at a championship level so I know the difference. And you?

 

[Mheezyfosheezy3]

Actually if Golson stays after May, ND will go 11-1. Can't say that will get them in after I saw the "committee " Fck Baylor and TCU last season.
Posted from Rivals Mobile

 

[john0gaunt]

Golson must be the highest priority recruit for the staff until the season begins. He is the most important part of this team.

Go Irish!

 

[onlyonenow]

actually perse the first ND game I remember well is the Tie with USC when they had OJ.
I remember when my father would call a friend of his about the game the previous day when our ratty local Newspaper would not have Notre Dames scores. I remember the one day when he said '50' with a question in his voice. We had just beaten Northwestern and the odd score came If I recall correctly when we had a bad snap on an after point and the holder was able to either run it in or pass it for 2.

And your inept rationalizations are sometimes pathetically funny.

So called pessimists like you are actually ignorant wannabe fans who are not football smart enough to understand the nuances of the game.

Sorry to use some big words that you will have to look up in a dictionary (assuming you either have one or know how to look them up online which I doubt)

 

[mbd11]

We should be better than last year. So I expect us to win at least 10 games, and possibly contend for the playoff.
Posted from Rivals Mobile

 

[zonairish]

They very good depth. the O should be lights out. The D if improved should be above average. This stuff about barely beating this one or that one is dumb. every game is about matchups and situations and if we are playing well. I will take a 1 pt win any day. its a win. Hey Ohio State almost lost to navy also. They pulled it out in the end.

 

[jacksondomer]

zona..dead on...I don't know of a coach in any sport that gives a rat's ass about anything other than having one more point than his opponent at the end of the day...

 

[Bodizephax]

This team is LOADED !! I expect a 14 and 0 season. This team is better than the 2012 team.