How Bad Is The Stanford Loss for ND?
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Not good, but not horrible. I think the two point loss to Clemson will carry ND into the playoffs. Its still possible the B10 doesn't have an undefeated team too.
If Houston beats Navy the SOS falls. Oregon will beat us as will UCLA so its going the wrong direction.
I don't see how you can definitively say that. Utah pounded Oregon and USC pounded Utah. I get that the transitive property doesn't always carry over in sports, but come on, USC has a very legit shot at winning both of those games.
Also, if Oklahoma wins out, would they jump ND (with wins over Baylor, TCU, and Ok State)? Especially if Clemson were to lose.
With Stanford not being such a high stakes game now, would the committee keep the Big 12 out for a second year?
The playoff really needs to be expanded to 8 teams IMO.
With Stanford not being such a high stakes game now, would the committee keep the Big 12 out for a second year?
The playoff really needs to be expanded to 8 teams IMO.
HArd question. The Big 12 does not have a championship game so a one loss team should just go head to head with ND on SOS.
I think its possible. That's why I'm hoping OU beats Baylor by two TD's. That will hopefully knock Baylor out without making OU look amazing. It will be tough for OU to jump ND with that loss to a poor Texas team, especially when ND destroyed them.
We would still be having these same conversations over the 5th/6th/7th/8th teams (instead of the 3rd/4th) ..
Stanford will stay inside top 25 till ND - Stanford game. Oh Oklahoma will be in top 4 if beat Oklahoma State.
It may not end up being that bad for ND. Stanford is still in control of its destiny for the PAC 12 championship, as long as they beat Cal next week and they should. With that said, if they go on to win the PAC 12 and finish with a 10-3 record(assuming we beat them) then the CFP committee should look at this as a very good win for ND.
I think if our SOS continues to sag it will certainly come in when the committee looks at a one loss big 12 or a one loss pac 12 champ Utah or a one loss acc champ unc/Clemson.
I'm not so sure. If Boomer Sooner wins their last two games that would mean they would of beaten 3 very tough teams at the end of the season in the voters mind.
That is a concern. It becomes a question of whether or not the committee respects our wins more or the one loss more. Oklahoma may end up having more impressive wins in their resume compared to ours, but we'd definitely have the more respectable loss.
They would not jump ND DIP even with their last 3 wins. That loss to Texas is looming large.. They would have two good wins Baylor and Ok. State. TCU most likely loses two more and is out of the top 25
We need to backup Baylor next week against Okie State. Game is in stillwater unfortunately.
What if unc beats Clemson in the acc title game (not unlikely). Do two acc teams get in over us.
I think both get left out in that case. UNC won't make a jump from #23 to #4 between now and then.
North Carolina lost to South Carolina who will probably end up 4-8. They also scheduled like complete panzies and played two FCS schools. I think they should be the last one loss team in even if they go 12-1.
If UNC beats Clemson, which I think there is a very good chance of, there will be no ACC representative. Oklahoma State needs to lose, they are the only team that can possibly jump a one loss Irish. OU, with one loss has the Texas loss, because ND is now ahead, that loss, a team ND beat up, will end OU's chance to move ahead of the Irish. And it should!
Things are looking pretty good for the Irish after this week.
1. Yes, Stanford lost, but a win over them at their place will still be a win over a top 20 team.
2. Yes, Temple lost, but they will probably be replaced by USC or Pitt in the top 25.
3. The Utes lost, thus making it very possible that USC wins the PAC South.
4. LSU and Baylor took hits.
5. ND won.
1. Yes, Stanford lost, but a win over them at their place will still be a win over a top 20 team.
2. Yes, Temple lost, but they will probably be replaced by USC or Pitt in the top 25.
3. The Utes lost, thus making it very possible that USC wins the PAC South.
4. LSU and Baylor took hits.
5. ND won.
Winning out is obviously the primary concern, but we still need some help in the state of Oklahoma. I seriously doubt OK St wins out, but if they do, they are in. No chance an undefeated conference champ is left out over any 1 loss team short of Bama. I don't think a one loss conference champ Oklahoma jumps us, but I wouldn't bet my house on it. The Stanford loss contributes to my concern in that regard
I wouldn't worry about things out of their (NDs) control. They need to first beat BC then Stanford. That's all they can do. Whatever happens after that is in the hands of the committee. I think an 11 and 1 Irish team deserves to be in the playoff. But that have to get to there first. The final two games won't be easy. Whether we admit it or not, the injuries are hurting ND. The Irish are going to have to dig deep into their resolve and find a way to win the next two games. BC has nothing to lose and will play that way. Stanford is very good and ND will need a superior, maybe their best game of the year to beat the cardinal. In the end, if they win out and get in , great! If they win out and don't get in, that's ok , because they did all they can do, and really, what else can you ask for? Go Irish!
USC has won 4 in a row. I agree that your game @ Oregon next week will be tough. However, you guys can certainly beat UCLA, which just lost last night to Washington State.
FSU beat Wake by 8. ND beat Wake by 21 in a game they led by 21,most of the day. It was unspectacular and statistically ordinary. But it was convincing in the sense they led by 3 scores through out the day. On a tough day to play. Senior Day. Every win is a good win in my book.
But here's my problem with that assumption that no one talks about. The benefit of backloading your sehdule is that the good teams in the big 12 don't get any losses till the end so they remain high in the rankings. Let's see where tcu is ranked at the end of the season. When they have 3 losses. They might not be in the top 25.
Someone should give the WF coach a heads up and inform him that the objective of the game is to score more points not control the clock . I got this eerie feeling mid way thru the 3 rd qtr that the guy was simply trying to break ND's balls in re to a "style win " ie running the play clock down to zero on every play down 21 . I don't remember seeing a coach do that to the extent he did yesterday . Not sure he sent the right message to his offense -- guess not they scored 7 pts .
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