Freeman treading a dangerous path

[theskibro]

I love Marcus Freeman. I want him to be over the top successful.

That acknowledged, recent comments and actions are very concerning and I hope he gets his —- together

1- 10 on field vs Tennessee State & OSU
2- prevent defense vs. OSU. Allows no pressure on McCord and a 3rd and 19 conversion to the one yard line
3- Duke offensive game plan terrible
4- Comment about Estime winning td - he should have gone down at one yard line. WTF?
5- Comment about mindset one last drive vs Duke —. “We wanted to run Estime and get in middle of field for a field goal attempt
WTF? Our kicker is someone I would never trust and to have the game swing on his leg versus trying to score?

I want Freeman to step back and get his — together. Fast. This is a recent pattern that speaks to the job being too big for him. I think that’s true to some extent. But he has to stop learning basic stuff on the job and stop saying stupid stuff at his pressers.
And will these soft ball throwing media types ask some questions that need to be asked?

 

[BGI User 756]

I love Marcus Freeman. I want him to be over the top successful.

That acknowledged, recent comments and actions are very concerning and I hope he gets his —- together

1- 10 on field vs Tennessee State & OSU
2- prevent defense vs. OSU. Allows no pressure on McCord and a 3rd and 19 conversion to the one yard line
3- Duke offensive game plan terrible
4- Comment about Estime winning td - he should have gone down at one yard line. WTF?
5- Comment about mindset one last drive vs Duke —. “We wanted to run Estime and get in middle of field for a field goal attempt
WTF? Our kicker is someone I would never trust and to have the game swing on his leg versus trying to score?

I want Freeman to step back and get his — together. Fast. This is a recent pattern that speaks to the job being too big for him. I think that’s true to some extent. But he has to stop learning basic stuff on the job and stop saying stupid stuff at his pressers.
And will these soft ball throwing media types ask some questions that need to be asked?

He does need to develop some savvy

 

[Golson5]

I love Marcus Freeman. I want him to be over the top successful.

That acknowledged, recent comments and actions are very concerning and I hope he gets his —- together

1- 10 on field vs Tennessee State & OSU
2- prevent defense vs. OSU. Allows no pressure on McCord and a 3rd and 19 conversion to the one yard line
3- Duke offensive game plan terrible
4- Comment about Estime winning td - he should have gone down at one yard line. WTF?
5- Comment about mindset one last drive vs Duke —. “We wanted to run Estime and get in middle of field for a field goal attempt
WTF? Our kicker is someone I would never trust and to have the game swing on his leg versus trying to score?

I want Freeman to step back and get his — together. Fast. This is a recent pattern that speaks to the job being too big for him. I think that’s true to some extent. But he has to stop learning basic stuff on the job and stop saying stupid stuff at his pressers.
And will these soft ball throwing media types ask some questions that need to be asked?

Oh boy

 

[IrishBeer]

I love Marcus Freeman. I want him to be over the top successful.

That acknowledged, recent comments and actions are very concerning and I hope he gets his —- together

1- 10 on field vs Tennessee State & OSU
2- prevent defense vs. OSU. Allows no pressure on McCord and a 3rd and 19 conversion to the one yard line
3- Duke offensive game plan terrible
4- Comment about Estime winning td - he should have gone down at one yard line. WTF?
5- Comment about mindset one last drive vs Duke —. “We wanted to run Estime and get in middle of field for a field goal attempt
WTF? Our kicker is someone I would never trust and to have the game swing on his leg versus trying to score?

I want Freeman to step back and get his — together. Fast. This is a recent pattern that speaks to the job being too big for him. I think that’s true to some extent. But he has to stop learning basic stuff on the job and stop saying stupid stuff at his pressers.
And will these soft ball throwing media types ask some questions that need to be asked?

Spot on. inexperienced coach. Anyone with half a brain realized there’d be growing pains. There are a lot of folks with less than half a brain. I don’t give two shits about liking Freeman. I don’t like Trump either but at least he could run a country. Win games and coach, likable or not I don’t give a damn.

 

[tbonesays]

Spot on. inexperienced coach. Anyone with half a brain realized there’d be growing pains. There are a lot of folks with less than half a brain. I don’t give two shits about liking Freeman. I don’t like Trump either but at least he could run a country. Win games and coach, likable or not I don’t give a damn.

That he shouldn't comment on individual play calls? Most of that list is just hindsight.

 

[sjb75]

I love Marcus Freeman. I want him to be over the top successful.

That acknowledged, recent comments and actions are very concerning and I hope he gets his —- together

1- 10 on field vs Tennessee State & OSU
2- prevent defense vs. OSU. Allows no pressure on McCord and a 3rd and 19 conversion to the one yard line
3- Duke offensive game plan terrible
4- Comment about Estime winning td - he should have gone down at one yard line. WTF?
5- Comment about mindset one last drive vs Duke —. “We wanted to run Estime and get in middle of field for a field goal attempt
WTF? Our kicker is someone I would never trust and to have the game swing on his leg versus trying to score?

I want Freeman to step back and get his — together. Fast. This is a recent pattern that speaks to the job being too big for him. I think that’s true to some extent. But he has to stop learning basic stuff on the job and stop saying stupid stuff at his pressers.
And will these soft ball throwing media types ask some questions that need to be asked?

You need to apply to be a head coach in major CFB since you have everything figured out.

 

[sjb75]

Spot on. inexperienced coach. Anyone with half a brain realized there’d be growing pains. There are a lot of folks with less than half a brain. I don’t give two shits about liking Freeman. I don’t like Trump either but at least he could run a country. Win games and coach, likable or not I don’t give a damn.

Same here. Go be a head coach in CFB.

 

[IrishBeer]

Same here. Go be a head coach in CFB.

I appreciate the compliment. Thanks. I like my day job though.

 

[Golson5]

The inexperience argument is such a lazy one

 

[sjb75]

I appreciate the compliment. Thanks. I like my day job though.

Seriously dude, go make 5-10 million per year and be a CFB head coach on Notre Dame's level.

You certainly have tons of answers.

 

[NDinNJ]

I appreciate the compliment. Thanks. I like my day job though.

Your day job clearly doesn't require you to use your intellect, which is probably a good thing.

 

[theskibro]

You need to apply to be a head coach in major CFB since you have everything figured out.

Can’t do that. I’m just an old retired guy who loves ND posting on an opinion board and hoping for some intelligent banter. I am not looking for the anticipated snide remark I knew would be coming from you. If there’s something you don’t agree with or have a constructive comment, join in. You’re becoming too predictable and not adding value. Kind of like a Twinkie instead of a salad

 

[sjb75]

Can’t do that. I’m just an old retired guy who loves ND posting on an opinion board and hoping for some intelligent banter. I am not looking for the anticipated snide remark I knew would be coming from you. If there’s something you don’t agree with or have a constructive comment, join in. You’re becoming too predictable and not adding value. Kind of like a Twinkie instead of a salad

I am not interested in sparring the merits of Marcus Freeman. I will criticize when need be, and I have; however, starting threads taking shots at the Notre Dame Head Football Coach ain't my bag.

 

[tbone3114]

I love Marcus Freeman. I want him to be over the top successful.

That acknowledged, recent comments and actions are very concerning and I hope he gets his —- together

1- 10 on field vs Tennessee State & OSU
2- prevent defense vs. OSU. Allows no pressure on McCord and a 3rd and 19 conversion to the one yard line
3- Duke offensive game plan terrible
4- Comment about Estime winning td - he should have gone down at one yard line. WTF?
5- Comment about mindset one last drive vs Duke —. “We wanted to run Estime and get in middle of field for a field goal attempt
WTF? Our kicker is someone I would never trust and to have the game swing on his leg versus trying to score?

I want Freeman to step back and get his — together. Fast. This is a recent pattern that speaks to the job being too big for him. I think that’s true to some extent. But he has to stop learning basic stuff on the job and stop saying stupid stuff at his pressers.
And will these soft ball throwing media types ask some questions that need to be asked?

Will ND ever be a team that imposes its will on other teams... I sure hope so! I really like MF as well.. love the direction and recruiting that's happening..

 

[tbonesays]

Can’t do that. I’m just an old retired guy who loves ND posting on an opinion board and hoping for some intelligent banter. I am not looking for the anticipated snide remark I knew would be coming from you. If there’s something you don’t agree with or have a constructive comment, join in. You’re becoming too predictable and not adding value. Kind of like a Twinkie instead of a salad

That's a matter of taste.

 

[banmate6]

You need to apply to be a head coach in major CFB since you have everything figured out.

This is said by so many fans in all sports.

The reality is:

1) Sure, a coach will manage an entire program and game WAY better than any of us.

2) However, fans can and often do point some nuances out where coaches make mistakes.

Consider chess. A grandmaster obviously runs the entire game better than observers...but observers in real time have posted moves that could have forced a checkmate sequence that the grandmaster misses.

BTW: I don't agree with the OP that Freeman is playing a dangerous game.

Actually, he's trending well all in all. Emphatically won the easy games. Should have beat Ohio State. Grinded out a trap game win vs a pretty good and motivated Duke.

He can clean up some details. I don't read too much in some of his musings, some which might be impulsive. I read more into the said general trending.

Finally, the margins are thin. Had ND lost to Duke, I probably would be doubtful about Freeman. But here I am now...seeing the glass as half full, expecting Freeman to evolve just in time and run the table.

Hope never dies when you're an Irish fan.

 

[banmate6]

Spot on. inexperienced coach. Anyone with half a brain realized there’d be growing pains. There are a lot of folks with less than half a brain. I don’t give two shits about liking Freeman. I don’t like Trump either but at least he could run a country. Win games and coach, likable or not I don’t give a damn.

Mama mia! Now I forever have to doubt your judgement of operational excellence!



BTW: being likable is a major factor in leadership effectiveness. Terms like diplomacy exist for a reason. Suffice it to say, Freeman inspires to get that extra grit that CBK didn't in key games...and will probably prove a better recruiter because of this.

CBK and Trump in their own ways give up a lot because of they for whatever reason refuse to be likable. I'll give that CBK has operational excellence...but let's not go down this rabbit hole, be it politics, or CBK.

 

[theskibro]

I am not interested in sparring the merits of Marcus Freeman. I will criticize when need be, and I have; however, starting threads taking shots at the Notre Dame Head Football Coach ain't my bag.

If you can show anyone on this board that my post takes a shot at Marcus Freeman, then you are a magician.
I clearly said he is treading a dangerous path. I clearly said I love the guy and want him to succeed. I supported my dangerous path headline with facts. So where am I taking a shot at Freeman?
You go ahead and roll over and pretend Freeman has not made mistakes lately. You do that.

 

[Kelso86]

Spot on. inexperienced coach. Anyone with half a brain realized there’d be growing pains. There are a lot of folks with less than half a brain. I don’t give two shits about liking Freeman. I don’t like Trump either but at least he could run a country. Win games and coach, likable or not I don’t give a damn.

"I don’t like Trump either but at least he could run a country"

Well, we can see you intellect at work

 

[raulduke_007]

If you can show anyone on this board that my post takes a shot at Marcus Freeman, then you are a magician.
I clearly said he is treading a dangerous path. I clearly said I love the guy and want him to succeed. I supported my dangerous path headline with facts. So where am I taking a shot at Freeman?
You go ahead and roll over and pretend Freeman has not made mistakes lately. You do that.

I absolutely think Freeman was the right hire & probably one of his biggest supporters on the board, but he is not above critism & think yours are valid. I didnt like his answer that he wanted Estime to fall on the 1 instead of scoring.
1. I just dont think you ever take sure points off the board when you are trailing with 30 seconds to go & besides Schader has been terrible this year & alot can go wrong when the ultimate pressure is on the line.
2. I'm ok with the growing pains of a young coach. Freeman's upside in recruiting & representing the ND brand has been a homerun. With the way the transfer portal & NIL is evening the playing field I think ND's chances have gone way up to win a title.

 

[sjb75]

I love Marcus Freeman. I want him to be over the top successful.

That acknowledged, recent comments and actions are very concerning and I hope he gets his —- together

1- 10 on field vs Tennessee State & OSU
2- prevent defense vs. OSU. Allows no pressure on McCord and a 3rd and 19 conversion to the one yard line
3- Duke offensive game plan terrible
4- Comment about Estime winning td - he should have gone down at one yard line. WTF?
5- Comment about mindset one last drive vs Duke —. “We wanted to run Estime and get in middle of field for a field goal attempt
WTF? Our kicker is someone I would never trust and to have the game swing on his leg versus trying to score?

I want Freeman to step back and get his — together. Fast. This is a recent pattern that speaks to the job being too big for him. I think that’s true to some extent. But he has to stop learning basic stuff on the job and stop saying stupid stuff at his pressers.
And will these soft ball throwing media types ask some questions that need to be asked?

Again, not interested discussing whatever "stupid stuff...." that you see regarding at Marcus Freeman.

 

[IrishBeer]

I am not interested in sparring the merits of Marcus Freeman. I will criticize when need be, and I have; however, starting threads taking shots at the Notre Dame Head Football Coach ain't my bag.

We know. You’re an LSU and USC fan. Someday hopefully you’ll choose between them.

 

[sjb75]

We know. You’re an LSU and USC fan. Someday hopefully you’ll choose between them.

You're about due for another handle.

 

[theskibro]

I absolutely think Freeman was the right hire & probably one of his biggest supporters on the board, but he is not above critism & think yours are valid. I didnt like his answer that he wanted Estime to fall on the 1 instead of scoring.
1. I just dont think you ever take sure points off the board when you are trailing with 30 seconds to go & besides Schader has been terrible this year & alot can go wrong when the ultimate pressure is on the line.
2. I'm ok with the growing pains of a young coach. Freeman's upside in recruiting & representing the ND brand has been a homerun. With the way the transfer portal & NIL is evening the playing field I think ND's chances have gone way up to win a title.

Well said. Growing pains. We’ve seen a bunch from okla state. Marshall. Stanford. Etc. But I’ll take it. I like him a lot

 

[Golson5]

Well said. Growing pains. We’ve seen a bunch from okla state. Marshall. Stanford. Etc. But I’ll take it. I like him a lot

Is BK going through growing pains as a coach at LSU?

 

[raulduke_007]

Well said. Growing pains. We’ve seen a bunch from okla state. Marshall. Stanford. Etc. But I’ll take it. I like him a lot

Last 13 games 11-2 with 4 top 20 wins. Only losses to 10-1 USC (at time) & OSU.
I think ND offense is in a catch 22 right now with regards to opening up the playbook. I think the middle of the oline has been weaker than they thought coming into the season & hasnt progressed as they hope. I think they would like to throw more but WR's arent beating one on one coverage. Freeman has settled on letting the defense win games & has kept the offense in ground & pound mode.

 

[theskibro]

Hahaha. It takes awhile to Learn Cajun

 

[sjb75]

Well said. Growing pains. We’ve seen a bunch from okla state. Marshall. Stanford. Etc. But I’ll take it. I like him a lot

Needs a signature win. There isn't one after 20 games. The USC game is huge for Marcus Freeman. There is no other game on the schedule that comes close for national respect than a win over Caleb Williams and USC.

 

[theskibro]

Needs a signature win. There isn't one after 20 games. The USC game is huge for Marcus Freeman. There is no other game on the schedule that comes close for national respect than a win over Caleb Williams and USC.

True. But Clemson, South Carolina and now Duke are solid if not signature wins Usc would be huge and Clemson is improving and hopefully gets ranked and we beat them

 

[Golson5]

Needs a signature win. There isn't one after 20 games. The USC game is huge for Marcus Freeman. There is no other game on the schedule that comes close for national respect than a win over Caleb Williams and USC.

At the time, Clemson was a signature win.

They were ranked 4th. We havent had many of those in the last 20 years

 

[sjb75]

At the time, Clemson was a signature win.

They were ranked 4th. We havent had many of those in the last 20 years

Not on the level of defeating Caleb Williams and USC. Not even close.

 

[sjb75]

True. But Clemson, South Carolina and now Duke are solid if not signature wins Usc would be huge and Clemson is improving and hopefully gets ranked and we beat them

You can't be serious mentioning Duke and South Carolina as signature wins. Heck, even Clemson is a shadow of their former self of 2018 and 2019.

 

[Golson5]

Not on the level of defeating Caleb Williams and USC. Not even close.

At the time they would be ranked higher than Caleb Williams and USC and also have been much better than USC.

REVISIONIST HISTORY

 

[sjb75]

At the time they would be ranked higher than Caleb Williams and USC and also have been much better than USC.

REVISIONIST HISTORY

Ranked? Rankings, other than the CFB playoff rankings, aren't worth the paper they are printed on. Simply click bait.

There is no bigger game for Notre Dame in 2023 than USC. None.

 

[Golson5]

Ranked? Rankings, other than the CFB playoff rankings, aren't worth the paper they are printed on. Simply click bait.

There is no bigger game for Notre Dame in 2023 than USC. None.

Ohio state was bigger. But you said MF didn't have a signature win. Clemson was 4th last year. That was a signature win

Clemson was 4th in the CFP rankings when we played them. So according to you, that means something

 

[tbonesays]

Not on the level of defeating Caleb Williams and USC. Not even close.

Clemson controlled their own destiny to the playoff. The cacti would have still made the playoff had South Carolina got all of a suddenly red hot.

 

[Pennick4]

Marcus is doing just fine. The team is responding well to him. It has been a fun season.

 

[d1042]

Skibro is a great guy! ya gotta luv him! (I never like to disagree with something you post)

 

[raulduke_007]

You can't be serious mentioning Duke and South Carolina as signature wins. Heck, even Clemson is a shadow of their former self of 2018 and 2019.

Posts a glowing thread about Pete Carroll on an ND board & slobbers all over Caleb & USC, then devalues Clemson win last year. Things that make you go hmmm...

 

[Irish_inPSU]

Freeman is fine and I believe has a bright future ahead of him. Its the program I've been worried about.