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Filmmaker and political philosipher michael moore is an American hero

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He made a great point in one of his tweets talking about him marching on Washington to protest evil Kavanaugh. He said it's not up to the FBI to make a difference in this country it's up to those on the FBI watchlist to make a difference. Thank you for your courage Michael Moore.
 
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He made a great point in one of his tweets talking about him marching on Washington to protest evil Kavanaugh. He said it's not up to the FBI to make a difference in this country it's up to those on the FBI watchlist to make a difference. Thank you for your courage Michael Moore.
Nobody has taken him seriously since his suggestion that Cuba had better health care than the US. He just hasn't realized it yet.
 
He made a great point in one of his tweets talking about him marching on Washington to protest evil Kavanaugh. He said it's not up to the FBI to make a difference in this country it's up to those on the FBI watchlist to make a difference. Thank you for your courage Michael Moore.
He drank too much water in Flint Mi.!
 
can we please talk about irish sports and not talk about sick anti America hollywood

can you please stay out of our thread?

there are plenty of others you can find of interest! or you can read ESPN for intellectual content.
 
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He's a nutcase and a bonafide loon.

Fortunately, most everybody is catching on to this judging by the complete and utter dud his last "crapumentary" turned out to be.
 
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The majority of people on the FBI watchlist are those accused of sexually assaulting children, ties to terror networks & those involved in human sex trafficking.
Good call idiot.
 
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Nobody has taken him seriously since his suggestion that Cuba had better health care than the US. He just hasn't realized it yet.
The poster is a troll But I don't think defending America's health care system is an argument you should be aching for. And Cuba does have a better health care system, along with 27 other nations.
 
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The poster is a troll But I don't think defending America's health care system is an argument you should be aching for. And Cuba does have a better health care system, along with 27 other nations.
Yet citizens of those countries and every other country flock here for medical treatments all the time. The only time someone would go to Cuba for medical care is if the procedure was illegal in the US.
 
The poster is a troll But I don't think defending America's health care system is an argument you should be aching for. And Cuba does have a better health care system, along with 27 other nations.

No.

People are so stupid about the health care system it’s almost silly.

First, Americans are unhealthy...period.
If you struck 120 million unhealthy people in any other health care system it would collapse overnight. That’s a fact.
Second, and I see this first hand every single day being an infant mortality & negative birth outcome specialist, is that America health care takes on problems nobody else does. We try to save a preterm baby at 20 weeks. If it doesn’t survive we take a hit in our IMR. No other country on the planet does that. It’s why the best hospitals in the world have the highest at mortality rates, they take on the toughest patients.
Go read about getting a colonoscopy in Europe or Canada. The average wait is 6-12 months. In America the guideline is 5-6 weeks for low risk, immediate for high risk.
Try getting an MRI, or EKG or any scan over there & it’s not happening for weeks to months. In America it’s sameday.
And big shocker here, places like Cuba lie about everything. We know for a fact their infant mortality rate is close to 10 times of what they report.
 
No.

People are so stupid about the health care system it’s almost silly.

First, Americans are unhealthy...period.
If you struck 120 million unhealthy people in any other health care system it would collapse overnight. That’s a fact.
Second, and I see this first hand every single day being an infant mortality & negative birth outcome specialist, is that America health care takes on problems nobody else does. We try to save a preterm baby at 20 weeks. If it doesn’t survive we take a hit in our IMR. No other country on the planet does that. It’s why the best hospitals in the world have the highest at mortality rates, they take on the toughest patients.
Go read about getting a colonoscopy in Europe or Canada. The average wait is 6-12 months. In America the guideline is 5-6 weeks for low risk, immediate for high risk.
Try getting an MRI, or EKG or any scan over there & it’s not happening for weeks to months. In America it’s sameday.
And big shocker here, places like Cuba lie about everything. We know for a fact their infant mortality rate is close to 10 times of what they report.

America's healthcare system is the worst of any developed nation (not because i have a bunch of personal anecdotes to give about infant mortality rates and wait times, but because there are comprehensive studies published on the matter, and USA ranks last and it isn't even close)

Here's one of them: https://interactives.commonwealthfund.org/2017/july/mirror-mirror/

This study includes all the issues you touched on, just far more comprehensively (wait times, satisfaction of care, affordability, access, completion of treatment, etc.)

Americans get worse health outcomes at twice the cost, and have one of the shortest lifespans relative to the rest of the industrialized world

45,000+ americans die every single year as a result of not having health coverage https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/st...s-annually-linked-to-lack-of-health-coverage/

You know how many citizens in other 1st world countries die due to lack of health coverage? ZERO

America is the ONLY developed country that doesn't provide healthcare to ALL of its citizens as a right (all 1st world countries have a form of single payer/public option/safety net for ALL/every single one of its citizens) and on aggregate those citizens are way more satisfied with their healthcare system than americans are with theirs.

These other nations have no clue why americans accept death and bankruptcy because of medical debt and lack of access to healthcare (medical debt is one of the leading causes of bankruptcy in the USA https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/21/upshot/getting-sick-is-really-expensive.html

NOTHING makes sense about the healthcare industry in america other than providing record breaking profits for needless middle men (insurance companies).

The healthcare system in America is grossly immoral, corrupt, and fiscally/economically worse than anywhere else in the developed world.
 
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America's healthcare system is the worst of any developed nation (not because i have a bunch of personal anecdotes to give about infant mortality rates and wait times, but because there are comprehensive studies published on the matter, and USA ranks last and it isn't even close)

Here's one of them: https://interactives.commonwealthfund.org/2017/july/mirror-mirror/

This study includes all the issues you touched on, just far more comprehensively (wait times, satisfaction of care, affordability, access, completion of treatment, etc.)

Americans get worse health outcomes at twice the cost, and have one of the shortest lifespans relative to the rest of the industrialized world

45,000+ americans die every single year as a result of not having health coverage https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/st...s-annually-linked-to-lack-of-health-coverage/

You know how many citizens in other 1st world countries die due to lack of health coverage? ZERO

America is the ONLY developed country that doesn't provide healthcare to ALL of its citizens as a right (all 1st world countries have a form of single payer/public option/safety net for ALL/every single one of its citizens) and on aggregate those citizens are way more satisfied with their healthcare system than americans are with theirs.

These other nations have no clue why americans accept death and bankruptcy as a people because of medical debt and lack of assess to healthcare (medical debt is one of the leading causes of bankruptcy in the USA https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/21/upshot/getting-sick-is-really-expensive.html

NOTHING makes sense about the healthcare industry in america other than providing record breaking profits for needless middle men (insurance companies).

The healthcare system in America is grossly immoral, corrupt, and fiscally/economically worse than anywhere else in the developed world.
But obamacare was supposed to fix it!
 
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The majority of people on the FBI watchlist are those accused of sexually assaulting children, ties to terror networks & those involved in human sex trafficking.
Good call idiot.

We actually do not know who is on any lists.

Research ‘Thin Thread’.
 
No.

People are so stupid about the health care system it’s almost silly.

First, Americans are unhealthy...period.
If you struck 120 million unhealthy people in any other health care system it would collapse overnight. That’s a fact.
Second, and I see this first hand every single day being an infant mortality & negative birth outcome specialist, is that America health care takes on problems nobody else does. We try to save a preterm baby at 20 weeks. If it doesn’t survive we take a hit in our IMR. No other country on the planet does that. It’s why the best hospitals in the world have the highest at mortality rates, they take on the toughest patients.
Go read about getting a colonoscopy in Europe or Canada. The average wait is 6-12 months. In America the guideline is 5-6 weeks for low risk, immediate for high risk.
Try getting an MRI, or EKG or any scan over there & it’s not happening for weeks to months. In America it’s sameday.
And big shocker here, places like Cuba lie about everything. We know for a fact their infant mortality rate is close to 10 times of what they report.
I completely agree on your position with there are alots of unhealthy people out there. I dont begrudge anyones freewil, but there are consequences for life style choices.

I see it in the field I work in. Youngmen much younger than me having difficulty performing durning the day and then smoke and drink in the evening.

For me the biggest issue is between what I was paying prior to the ACA, and what I'm paying now, also how hospitals abuses Medicare
 
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He made a great point in one of his tweets talking about him marching on Washington to protest evil Kavanaugh. He said it's not up to the FBI to make a difference in this country it's up to those on the FBI watchlist to make a difference. Thank you for your courage Michael Moore.
 
Michael Moore is and has always been with the FBI ! Anyone knows this !
Fat Boys Institute ! I think he is even the director of that branch of the FBI ?
 
But obamacare was supposed to fix it!

Obamacare was a shitty half measure. What we need is a single payer public option. 70% of americans are on board with "medicare for all" and for me it's a litmus test for any candidate running for office who wants my vote.
 
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America's healthcare system is the worst of any developed nation (not because i have a bunch of personal anecdotes to give about infant mortality rates and wait times, but because there are comprehensive studies published on the matter, and USA ranks last and it isn't even close)

Here's one of them: https://interactives.commonwealthfund.org/2017/july/mirror-mirror/

This study includes all the issues you touched on, just far more comprehensively (wait times, satisfaction of care, affordability, access, completion of treatment, etc.)

Americans get worse health outcomes at twice the cost, and have one of the shortest lifespans relative to the rest of the industrialized world

45,000+ americans die every single year as a result of not having health coverage https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/st...s-annually-linked-to-lack-of-health-coverage/

You know how many citizens in other 1st world countries die due to lack of health coverage? ZERO

America is the ONLY developed country that doesn't provide healthcare to ALL of its citizens as a right (all 1st world countries have a form of single payer/public option/safety net for ALL/every single one of its citizens) and on aggregate those citizens are way more satisfied with their healthcare system than americans are with theirs.

These other nations have no clue why americans accept death and bankruptcy because of medical debt and lack of access to healthcare (medical debt is one of the leading causes of bankruptcy in the USA https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/21/upshot/getting-sick-is-really-expensive.html

NOTHING makes sense about the healthcare industry in america other than providing record breaking profits for needless middle men (insurance companies).

The healthcare system in America is grossly immoral, corrupt, and fiscally/economically worse than anywhere else in the developed world.

That is not even close to good sources.

You are literally an idiot.

I can post articles that say the earth is flat & the moon doesn’t exist.

I’m actually going to have to put you on ignore because I have realized you are one of them.

Have fun dying from a simple infection a doctor could cure because you are an idiot.

LOL
 
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One more thing Chase.

It’s not anecdotal stories.

I research for NIH, WHO, HHS, etc.

I have peered review articles in NEJM.

The current Surgeon General, Jerome Adams, was my counterpart before he became political.
 
So the Commonwealth Fund, the NY Times, and a Harvard study are all bad sources but your personal anecdotes are bullet proof. ;)
 
That is not even close to good sources.

You are literally an idiot.

I can post articles that say the earth is flat & the moon doesn’t exist.

I’m actually going to have to put you on ignore because I have realized you are one of them.

Have fun dying from a simple infection a doctor could cure because you are an idiot.

LOL


Your ad hominem response to a well thought out post (although I may disagree with some of the arguments) tells me everything I need to know about you.
 
well, fault Chase. Anyone that engages that guy, deserves that sort of response.
It would benefit the entire board if he would mercifully put all of us on ignore.
 
Obamacare was a shitty half measure. What we need is a single payer public option. 70% of americans are on board with "medicare for all" and for me it's a litmus test for any candidate running for office who wants my vote.
Why again am I paying a $4000 deductible instead of the ,$500 I was paying prior to the ACA.......that's right to push us into a single payer system

This single payer you subscribe to will the politicians that force us into it also be stuck with it?
 
Fix for health care problem will ultimately be that Congress will make it unlawful to be ill or come down with any form disease. No illness of any type will be recognized. Health care will become unnecessary.
 
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One more thing Chase.

It’s not anecdotal stories.

I research for NIH, WHO, HHS, etc.

I have peered review articles in NEJM.

The current Surgeon General, Jerome Adams, was my counterpart before he became political.
Are you Insinuating that you are a Doctor? If so, I feel sorry for your patients if you talk to them the way that you talk to people on this board. bedside manner is a bit lacking
 
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Are you Insinuating that you are a Doctor? If so, I feel sorry for your patients if you talk to them the way that you talk to people on this board. bedside manner is a bit lacking

Shucks! common courtesies are lacking.
 
“And Cuba does have a better health care system”

Uninformed drivel. Cuba’s healthcare sucks. I live in Miami and have heard countless stories from friends and their family that still live on the island, and the fact that someone is actually touting their healthcare is laughable. It’s third world care and as another poster stated, they lie about everything government related over there.
 
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so we can agree healthcare sucks. Almost anywhere. Except for the wealthy.
Just so you know: the wealthy class is generally the ruling class. If a commoner get into power they quickly become a member of the wealthy class. The wealthy class will NEVER, that is never, make laws that do not favor the wealthy class and the ability of the wealthy class to remain the wealthy class. As long as they appear to be benevolent they can continue. But sometimes they lose perspective, like “let them eat cake”, and thus arises Madame Defarge. Then a purge and a ‘new’ wealthy class. history<—>history.
All about power and sex.

...history helps you understand the past to predict the future and help in creating it. Studying history gives us wide opportunities to get better understanding of our past experiences to count on the great achievements and avoid the horrific mistakes.
 
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so we can agree healthcare sucks. Almost anywhere. Except for the wealthy.
Just so you know: the wealthy class is generally the ruling class. If a commoner get into power they quickly become a member of the wealthy class. The wealthy class will NEVER, that is never, make laws that do not favor the wealthy class and the ability of the wealthy class to remain the wealthy class. As long as they appear to be benevolent they can continue. But sometimes they lose perspective, like “let them eat cake”, and thus arises Madame Defarge. Then a purge and a ‘new’ wealthy class. history<>history.
All about power and sex.
Works for me!
 
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The poster is a troll But I don't think defending America's health care system is an argument you should be aching for. And Cuba does have a better health care system, along with 27 other nations.
By better, do you mean 'free'? Try not to confuse 'free' for 'better' - Cuba is a communist nation and there is a lot of socialism/communism in the democrat party. Here's an excerpt from a doctor that studied in Cuba and also claims they have a wonderful system:
In addition they do this without access to the latest in diagnostic technology or have to wait weeks for basic equipment to arrive at hospitals to perform procedures, even at times without electricity or running water. They still find the strength to push through all these obstacles and challenges to deliver a service worthy of praise.
It's fine if you want to believe 'free' is better but do not try to say the standard is better because it clearly is not better.

Link: http://theconversation.com/is-the-cuban-healthcare-system-really-as-great-as-people-claim-69526
 
No.

People are so stupid about the health care system it’s almost silly.

First, Americans are unhealthy...period.
If you struck 120 million unhealthy people in any other health care system it would collapse overnight. That’s a fact.
Second, and I see this first hand every single day being an infant mortality & negative birth outcome specialist, is that America health care takes on problems nobody else does. We try to save a preterm baby at 20 weeks. If it doesn’t survive we take a hit in our IMR. No other country on the planet does that. It’s why the best hospitals in the world have the highest at mortality rates, they take on the toughest patients.
Go read about getting a colonoscopy in Europe or Canada. The average wait is 6-12 months. In America the guideline is 5-6 weeks for low risk, immediate for high risk.
Try getting an MRI, or EKG or any scan over there & it’s not happening for weeks to months. In America it’s sameday.
And big shocker here, places like Cuba lie about everything. We know for a fact their infant mortality rate is close to 10 times of what they report.


The wait for a colonoscopy in this country if you are poor and without insurance is eternity.
 
America's healthcare system is the worst of any developed nation (not because i have a bunch of personal anecdotes to give about infant mortality rates and wait times, but because there are comprehensive studies published on the matter, and USA ranks last and it isn't even close)

Here's one of them: https://interactives.commonwealthfund.org/2017/july/mirror-mirror/

This study includes all the issues you touched on, just far more comprehensively (wait times, satisfaction of care, affordability, access, completion of treatment, etc.)

Americans get worse health outcomes at twice the cost, and have one of the shortest lifespans relative to the rest of the industrialized world

45,000+ americans die every single year as a result of not having health coverage https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/st...s-annually-linked-to-lack-of-health-coverage/

You know how many citizens in other 1st world countries die due to lack of health coverage? ZERO

America is the ONLY developed country that doesn't provide healthcare to ALL of its citizens as a right (all 1st world countries have a form of single payer/public option/safety net for ALL/every single one of its citizens) and on aggregate those citizens are way more satisfied with their healthcare system than americans are with theirs.

These other nations have no clue why americans accept death and bankruptcy because of medical debt and lack of access to healthcare (medical debt is one of the leading causes of bankruptcy in the USA https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/21/upshot/getting-sick-is-really-expensive.html

NOTHING makes sense about the healthcare industry in america other than providing record breaking profits for needless middle men (insurance companies).

The healthcare system in America is grossly immoral, corrupt, and fiscally/economically worse than anywhere else in the developed world.


Those insurance companies are the only thing protecting you from the hospitals sinking their claws into you and taking you for every penny.
 
Have any of you ever dealt with the IHS? That’s government healthcare. My Fiancé receives it for free but we choose to drive all the way to the city for if she has to go to the hospital or any other health care provider for almost anything other than prescription pick ups.
 
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