This is the guy I have wanted from the get go outside of bigger names like Aranda and strong which were long shots.... this guy has shown production in every year with the talent at wake forest.
Elko is the right fit
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Seriously , does it even matter who they hire? Kelly is still the coach. This much I know. ND is a slightly above average football team with Kelly as the coach. Really, that's all anyone needs to know. Coaching matters. If you don't think it does, look at Temple. Back to back 10 win seasons. Believe me, no one on the planet even had that on their radar. But they got a coach who made the players believe and play at a high level. With that kind of coaching at ND, I have no doubt they would be a perennial power again.
Nope the coaching staff should do nothing to improve next season. The fan base should expect no improvements next season. We shouldn't post or watch any games until Kelly is gone.
wake gave up 35 points to Clemson and 44 i believe to Louisville and 33 to nc state. and 21 to Delaware. Is he really a step up?
You might be right but look at the players who return on defense who played last year.
DL: Tillery; Cage; Bonner; JHayes; DHayes; Trumbetti; Okwara; Kareem; Taylor and lets through in MDT.
LB: Morgan; Coney; Bilal; Martini and Jamir.
CB: Watkins; Vaughn; Love; Pride; Coleman and hopefully Crawford.
Safety: Tranquil; Studstill; Elliott and Ferttita. Hopefully Perry and Morgan show they belong.
No idea if the newbies coming in will add much but I think it would be tough to break into tbe rotation of the existing players.
I have a hard time thinking a better DC won't get good production out of the crew. Also, I am speculating a more experienced OL means better TOP limiting the time our defense is on the field.
The TOP you speak of has nothing to do with the offensive line. It should but it doesn't with BK at the helm.
He will go no huddle...snap the ball with like three on the play clock...but call a high risk pass play that results incomplete...clock stopped...back out the defense goes.
Brian Kelly might be the dumbest coach ...no no.....
NUMBEST coach I've ever seen. He Has ZERO sense of feel❕
what he has done at WF is admirable..
but think about the kids he has...they got that hungry.. you can't coach it.
the guys that are coming back... They just don't have it..
It would take any DC several years before he gets his types of players.
which he probably won't get with BK getting canned next year..
You guys are underestimating the fact that good coaches adapt to the personnel. He also seems to excel with his secondary play as he is the db coach.
I just hope it's not the only interview! Albeit a solid one. Probably will offset the hire regardless unless Kelly gets an OC and relinquishes play calling.
I just hope it's not the only interview! Albeit a solid one. Probably will offset the hire regardless unless Kelly gets an OC and relinquishes play calling.
Daelin Hayes and Khalid Kareem will have big upcoming seasons
So you say it's coaching that matters and I'm here talking about a defensive coordinator. Which has an impact on half of the game
Wake Forest was ranked 39th in the nation in overall defense last year out of 125 teams. I'm pretty sure he's not working with the talent that would be at ND there either
All very true points except #1 (it does matter who is hired); the lads on the defensive side of the ball deserve the best coaching possible, and they have suffered through the past three seasons. I really hope for their sake that ND hires the best DC available. I'm all in on him bring in a whole new defensive coaching staff and please replace Booker & Longo!
Wake's defense improved (ppg allowed) every season he was there. Same at Bowling Green where Elko was also D-coordinator. Solid, solid hire.
And how barren is the Wake roster? Coaches don't hire coaches based upon statistics, they know how a coach does, or has done, with what he has to deal with.
Who ever gets the nod -- I hope he can come in here and breathe some fundamentals, urgency, passion and aggression into the defense. That has been sorely lacking for years.
Did you watch these games??? The defense had no help from the offense. They played well for 3 quarters, then ran out of gas because offense couldnt move the chains.
This is extremely true. I remember checking in on these games from time to time. Wake Forest had NO offense in these games and they were very close. The Louisville game was within reach for them until like 8 minutes left in the 4th.
I didn't see those games. I get the points all of you are making but, how many times have we as a fan base got excited over an assistant coach. There we're some excited over Gilmore and Van Gorder. I remember seeing those posts but, not who posted them. So Wake was in those games right up until the end. Some might say they collapsed . Hope you are all right about this coach. I've just seen too many assistant coaches disappoint to get excited over one.
Do you work for the ND PR department?
Dear Lord, the guy has proven squat.
PS There isn't a person on the planet that believes that the answer to ND's defensive problems is at Wake Forest. It is idiotic.
Bodizephax
I've posted how many times?
Stop all your naysaying cgvr ! Or you might end up missing like Purse ! Just saying...
The thing with Van Gorder was that he hadn't had any recent success. His success was over 10 years ago at UGA. He was bad as the falcons DC and at Auburn as well. The DC from Wake actually has some really good defenses look what he did to last year's ND squad with all the stars they had on offense. If Wake would have had am offense that year it would have been a different game.
Yes, this guy is battle tested in the crucible of flag football.
Okay, let's say you were pinned down. Would you call in a Cub scout?
In the spirit of Christmas I would rather see us go after Elfo.
You may be right. It looks like they had a tough mid-season schedule. Florida St., Army, Louisville, and Clemson.
Here's their record: http://www.wakeforestsports.com/sports/m-footbl/sched/wake-m-footbl-sched.html
Here's Elko's profile: http://www.wakeforestsports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/mike_elko_880424.html
The answer to ND's defensive problems won't come from Wake Forest, interesting. Dave Amanda probably the best coordinator in college football was at Hawaii and then Utah State? I think Urban Meyer started his head coaching career at Bowling Green. But, yeah nothing good would ever come out of Wake Forest
Bodizephax
I've posted how many times?
I don't know. He has not gone without posting everyday for the last five years including that big Hurricane that hit up at N.Y a couple of years back. I hope he is OK.
To my thinking, Elko is exactly the kind of DC we should go after. Wake Forest is an excellent place for a guy to build his resume and prove his chops, which Elko has done. Sure, I would prefer Wilcox from Wisconsin, but Elko is in the conversation when discussing the up and coming DC's in Div I. Hope Kelly pulls the trigger and hires this guy, and hope the University's penchant for taking a long time to complete it's due diligence doesn't temper the enthusiasm and possible impact on recruiting.
Yep, we are due to catch lightening in a bottle.
If this guy is hired and pans out to NC caliber your comparison may make more sense. Until then it is nothing more than wishful thinking.
kelly stinks and for people to get excited over a possible Wake Forest hire simply sinks the program lower.
Exactly, we are on probation, rudderless and considered a laughingstock.
kelly's professional and personal reputations are shot.
CGVR...no argument that Kelly deserves to be fired several times over for the many reasons discussed here non stop for several weeks. However, Jack owns the hit the university and program are taking for the way he has handled the extension, his decision to keep the fans twisting in the wind, and his arrogant narcissistic disregard for the alumni and players and recruits and fans. Given this, I think we will be fortunate to get a DC of Elko's caliber, and yes I will celebrate this if it comes to past.
Agreed on swarbrick.....
Imo we are at a stage where experimentation/hoping doesn't cut it. We need proven high end commodities. Elko is another risk.
We'll see how it pans out.
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