Do the administrators at ND realize they are waving a white flag before the season even gets started?

[chaseball]

College football is unique in that from the moment the season starts, you got 130 teams in a do or die like tournament for the very top spot of the standings.

There's no 2nd place in college football.
There's no multi-loss championship seasons in college football.
There's maybe a 2nd chance if enough other teams F up more than you.

You got to be one of the very best teams in the country from the moment you walk on that field week 1, you got be great in all facets of your program in order to have any reasonable shot at winning a national title.

The fact that ND goes into the season immediately handicapped by their roster -- because they are getting dominated by a handful of teams on the recruiting trail every cycle -- is pretty much them waving a white flag before the season even gets started.

Are there any plans with the incoming AD & President to fix it?

 

[Patrirish]

College football is unique in that from the moment the season starts, you got 130 teams in a do or die like tournament for the very top spot of the standings.

There's no 2nd place in college football.
There's no multi-loss championship seasons in college football.
There's maybe a 2nd chance if enough other teams F up more than you.

You got to be one of the very best teams in the country from the moment you walk on that field week 1, you got be perfect to have any reasonable shot at winning a national title.

The fact that ND goes into the season immediately handicapped by their lack of talent relative to the teams at the top of the sport -- with seemingly no plans to improve it -- is pretty much them waving a white flag before the season even gets started.

You are totally clueless
Your premise is conceptually flawed

Your ignorance knows no bounds !

 

[NDSMC78]

College football is unique in that from the moment the season starts, you got 130 teams in a do or die like tournament for the very top spot of the standings.

There's no 2nd place in college football.
There's no multi-loss championship seasons in college football.
There's maybe a 2nd chance if enough other teams F up more than you.

You got to be one of the very best teams in the country from the moment you walk on that field week 1, you got be nearly perfect in all facets of your program in order to have any reasonable shot at winning a national title.

The fact that ND goes into the season immediately handicapped by their roster -- because they are getting dominated by a handful of teams on the recruiting trail every cycle -- is pretty much them waving a white flag before the season even gets started.

Stop pretending that you are a Notre Dame fan. All you do is criticize the players, the coaches, the administration and the fans. You are beyond sickening.

 

[Golson5]

College football is unique in that from the moment the season starts, you got 130 teams in a do or die like tournament for the very top spot of the standings.

There's no 2nd place in college football.
There's no multi-loss championship seasons in college football.
There's maybe a 2nd chance if enough other teams F up more than you.

You got to be one of the very best teams in the country from the moment you walk on that field week 1, you got be nearly perfect in all facets of your program in order to have any reasonable shot at winning a national title.

The fact that ND goes into the season immediately handicapped by their roster -- because they are getting dominated by a handful of teams on the recruiting trail every cycle -- is pretty much them waving a white flag before the season even gets started.

Shut up you clown

 

[ivan brunetti]

I hope the 2024 ND football team enjoys as much harmony as this board!

 

[Pennick4]

I hope the 2024 ND football team enjoys as much harmony as this board!

Chase is the only member who has nothing ever good to say about the program.

 

[mwjourney]

Saw title of thread, knew who wrote it, didn't read it.......dead horse alert

 

[chaseball]

When ND has been like 0-million vs the top 5 in college football over the last however many years, it should feel uneasy among the fan base. Fans should be shifting in their chairs getting uncomfortable. People should be getting antsy.

I can't be the only one entirely exasperated with the fact that the ND football program has been spinning its wheels for decade after decade while going nowhere in the process.

 

[NDSMC78]

When ND has been like 0-million vs the top 5 in college football over the last however many years, it should feel uneasy. Fans should be shifting in their chairs getting uncomfortable. People should be getting antsy.

This isn't a time to sit around and play patty cake and share niceties.

I can't be the only one exasperated with the fact that the ND football program has been spinning its wheels for decade after decade while going nowhere in the process.

Not an ND fan. Should be following Bama, UGA or OSU.

 

[wawasee]

He hates himself. Chase my Balls wants to make everyone feel miserable. I guess his lot rent went up again..

 

[stu4don]

Get off my lawn!

 

[Patrirish]

When ND has been like 0-million vs the top 5 in college football over the last however many years, it should feel uneasy among the fan base. Fans should be shifting in their chairs getting uncomfortable. People should be getting antsy.

I can't be the only one entirely exasperated with the fact that the ND football program has been spinning its wheels for decade after decade while going nowhere in the process.

Didn‘t Notre Dame go undefeated in several regular seasons and compete in the National Championship playoffs

Is that your definition of “going nowhere” ?

You’re clueless

 

[burmafrd1943]

College football is unique in that from the moment the season starts, you got 130 teams in a do or die like tournament for the very top spot of the standings.

There's no 2nd place in college football.
There's no multi-loss championship seasons in college football.
There's maybe a 2nd chance if enough other teams F up more than you.

You got to be one of the very best teams in the country from the moment you walk on that field week 1, you got be great in all facets of your program in order to have any reasonable shot at winning a national title.

The fact that ND goes into the season immediately handicapped by their roster -- because they are getting dominated by a handful of teams on the recruiting trail every cycle -- is pretty much them waving a white flag before the season even gets started.

Are there any plans with the incoming AD & President to fix it?

does chase his balls understand so many only read his drivel to laugh at it?

 

[hvillebill]

When ND has been like 0-million vs the top 5 in college football over the last however many years, it should feel uneasy among the fan base. Fans should be shifting in their chairs getting uncomfortable. People should be getting antsy.

I can't be the only one entirely exasperated with the fact that the ND football program has been spinning its wheels for decade after decade while going nowhere in the process.

Yes, it's sooooo easy to win a Natty.

I think you should shop yourself to all the big-time programs as an advisor.

 

[NDinNJ]

You are totally clueless
Your premise is conceptually flawed

Your ignorance knows no bounds !

👍👍👍

 

[NDinNJ]

If anyone can unify a message board, it's Chase with his frivolous and pathetic posts.

 

[BleedingBlueNGold]

Being critical of your team does not mean one is not a fan of said team. Being a fan is not about blindly supporting your team no matter what. Being a true fan can be demanding you want better for the players and the fan base.

 

[NDSMC78]

Being critical of your team does not mean one is not a fan of said team. Being a fan is not about blindly supporting your team no matter what. Being a true fan can be demanding you want better for the players and the fan base.

Chase NEVER says a single good thing about ND. He regularly trashes anything and everything about the school, including players, coaches, administration and fans. Real fans do say good things about the school from time to time. And real fans don't trash every aspect of the school constantly.

 

[BGI User 1596]

If anyone can unify a message board, it's Chase with his frivolous and pathetic posts.

F+ will be the uniting force bringing fans together!

 

[Holycrossover3]

The definition of insanity is posting the same thing over and over and expecting a different response.

 

[tbonesays]

Saw title of thread, knew who wrote it, didn't read it.......dead horse alert

was there any news at all in the OP?

 

[IrishHerb]

College football is unique in that from the moment the season starts, you got 130 teams in a do or die like tournament for the very top spot of the standings.

There's no 2nd place in college football.
There's no multi-loss championship seasons in college football.
There's maybe a 2nd chance if enough other teams F up more than you.

You got to be one of the very best teams in the country from the moment you walk on that field week 1, you got be great in all facets of your program in order to have any reasonable shot at winning a national title.

The fact that ND goes into the season immediately handicapped by their roster -- because they are getting dominated by a handful of teams on the recruiting trail every cycle -- is pretty much them waving a white flag before the season even gets started.

Are there any plans with the incoming AD & President to fix it?

Don't bet on it.

Many years ago Fr. Hesburgh said " it's only a game, nothing less, nothing more ". Of course we like to win, but ND is first and foremost an academic institution and the administration and faculty expect athletes to be students first, unlike what you see at schools like Alabama.

 

[burmafrd1943]

Being critical of your team does not mean one is not a fan of said team. Being a fan is not about blindly supporting your team no matter what. Being a true fan can be demanding you want better for the players and the fan base.

Never having anything good to say means you are not a fan
just a critic

 

[BGI User 756]

I hope the 2024 ND football team enjoys as much harmony as this board!

Says the fan of the cheaters

 

[BGI User 756]

Saw title of thread, knew who wrote it, didn't read it.......dead horse alert

Boom. Chass digging deep to regurgitate his normal biatching

 

[BGI User 756]

When ND has been like 0-million vs the top 5 in college football over the last however many years, it should feel uneasy among the fan base. Fans should be shifting in their chairs getting uncomfortable. People should be getting antsy.

I can't be the only one entirely exasperated with the fact that the ND football program has been spinning its wheels for decade after decade while going nowhere in the process.

Yes you are the only one totally exasperated and pathetic

 

[BGI User 756]

does chase his balls understand so many only read his drivel to laugh at it?

He may get his rocks off on such

 

[BGI User 756]

If anyone can unify a message board, it's Chase with his frivolous and pathetic posts.

Lol, so true

 

[BGI User 756]

Being critical of your team does not mean one is not a fan of said team. Being a fan is not about blindly supporting your team no matter what. Being a true fan can be demanding you want better for the players and the fan base.

Chass, so you are giving likes to one of your alias handles?

 

[deadirishpoet]

College football is unique in that from the moment the season starts, you got 130 teams in a do or die like tournament for the very top spot of the standings.

There's no 2nd place in college football.
There's no multi-loss championship seasons in college football.
There's maybe a 2nd chance if enough other teams F up more than you.

You got to be one of the very best teams in the country from the moment you walk on that field week 1, you got be great in all facets of your program in order to have any reasonable shot at winning a national title.

The fact that ND goes into the season immediately handicapped by their roster -- because they are getting dominated by a handful of teams on the recruiting trail every cycle -- is pretty much them waving a white flag before the season even gets started.

Are there any plans with the incoming AD & President to fix it?

With this new playoff format you can fart around the first couple of games before it hurts you.
Now by recruiting are you talking about being out spent (buying)for player players?

 

[deadirishpoet]

If anyone can unify a message board, it's Chase with his frivolous and pathetic posts.

You are giving him to much power

 

[savvyandsassier]

Stop pretending that you are a Notre Dame fan. All you do is criticize the players, the coaches, the administration and the fans. You are beyond sickening.

I don't know if he's 'beyond sickening'. That's quite a leap from being a provocateur, or troll I suppose is the word for it, who at least makes conversational posts that could be the subject of halfway reasonable debate or discussion, even if he really is merely trying to enrage ND fans....

To a transcendently nauseating, disgusting, indeed sickening human being. I guess you're giving him his money's worth, huh.....

 

[hvillebill]

Don't bet on it.

Many years ago Fr. Hesburgh said " it's only a game, nothing less, nothing more ". Of course we like to win, but ND is first and foremost an academic institution and the administration and faculty expect athletes to be students first, unlike what you see at schools like Alabama.

The problem with Chase is that the only thing he knows about Notre Dame is that it has a football team.

 

[mirer03]

College football is unique in that from the moment the season starts, you got 130 teams in a do or die like tournament for the very top spot of the standings.

There's no 2nd place in college football.
There's no multi-loss championship seasons in college football.
There's maybe a 2nd chance if enough other teams F up more than you.

You got to be one of the very best teams in the country from the moment you walk on that field week 1, you got be great in all facets of your program in order to have any reasonable shot at winning a national title.

The fact that ND goes into the season immediately handicapped by their roster -- because they are getting dominated by a handful of teams on the recruiting trail every cycle -- is pretty much them waving a white flag before the season even gets started.

Are there any plans with the incoming AD & President to fix it?

Hey look the sky is still blue...and more of the same drivel from chase.

 

[chaseball]

Hey look the sky is still blue...and more of the same drivel from chase.

The sky is certainly blue but the most recent hardware sitting in the gug is from the 1980s

 

[Patrirish]

The sky is certainly blue but the most recent hardware sitting in the gug is from the 1980s

Yes, but thousands and thousands of students and student athletes, including those on the football team, have received a great education and graduated with a degree from Notre Dame !

And that’s more important !

 

[d1042]

College football is unique in that from the moment the season starts, you got 130 teams in a do or die like tournament for the very top spot of the standings.

There's no 2nd place in college football.
There's no multi-loss championship seasons in college football.
There's maybe a 2nd chance if enough other teams F up more than you.

You got to be one of the very best teams in the country from the moment you walk on that field week 1, you got be great in all facets of your program in order to have any reasonable shot at winning a national title.

The fact that ND goes into the season immediately handicapped by their roster -- because they are getting dominated by a handful of teams on the recruiting trail every cycle -- is pretty much them waving a white flag before the season even gets started.

Are there any plans with the incoming AD & President to fix it?

All I can say is my Dr. Used the ‘R’ word. At my last visit!

 

[SIhoosier26]

Michigan (the team that just won the title) never had a class inside of the top 13 in the last 4 years. There's more to recruiting than star rating (especially with NIL and the portal playing such a big part every year now)

The two main classes for Freeman however were #8 in 2024 and currently #1 in 2025.

So not only are your incoherent rants about how Notre Dame doesn't recruit well enough to win stupid and annoying, they are also completely untrue. Stick to your f+ bs and stop littering this board with more of your recruiting nonsense.

 

[PLACT1]

Here's what a 17 year old 5 star (who been told since he was 12 that if keeps playing football well, He'll make millions in the NFL) hears from Notre Dame...Which one would you want to change to get better athletes?

1. You'll need to keep your GPA up in HS, take second language classes, and do well on testing
2. You'll need to go to real classes at ND to get a real major, keep a minimum GPA, and graduate in 3 years to maintain our national leadership in athlete graduation.
3. You'll need to live in a student body dorm on campus for first three years in wintery South Bend IN
4. You'll need to follow the zero-tolerance parietal rules of a Catholic University (no sexual activities on campus)
5. You're expected to do the same community service as other students
6. You wont have access to a multi-million dollar payroll of position "assistants and consultants" to augment the limited coaching staff.
7. We don't have the amount of NIL incentives that other schools are offering
8. We dont take undergraduate transfers
9. You may be the only 5 star on the team and double teamed or avoided during your entire time here - driving your stats down, while other teams have the talent to allow you to excel in position isolation when surrounded by equal talent.

How many current 5 and 4 stars want this path to the NFL? What would you change?

I respect every kid who make this decision, and understand the others who pass...

 

[Golson5]

Here's what a 17 year old 5 star (who been told since he was 12 that if keeps playing football well, He'll make millions in the NFL) hears from Notre Dame...Which one would you want to change to get better athletes?

1. You'll need to keep your GPA up in HS, take second language classes, and do well on testing
2. You'll need to go to real classes at ND to get a real major, keep a minimum GPA, and graduate in 3 years to maintain our national leadership in athlete graduation.
3. You'll need to live in a student body dorm on campus for first three years in wintery South Bend IN
4. You'll need to follow the zero-tolerance parietal rules of a Catholic University (no sexual activities on campus)
5. You're expected to do the same community service as other students
6. You wont have access to a multi-million dollar payroll of position "assistants and consultants" to augment the limited coaching staff.
7. We don't have the amount of NIL incentives that other schools are offering
8. We dont take undergraduate transfers
9. You may be the only 5 star on the team and double teamed or avoided during your entire time here - driving your stats down, while other teams have the talent to allow you to excel in position isolation when surrounded by equal talent.

How many current 5 and 4 stars want this path to the NFL? What would you change?

I respect every kid who make this decision, and understand the others who pass...

We also have a ton to offer


That's why we recruit at a top 10 level