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using your summary, at least "isn't very good" was the description and not "very bad"
that means it may be "good"
JMO: The defense will struggle; it will probably make more big plays than the past 2 seasons, but it will also give up big plays as typical of BVG's defense. In close games,considering this D, ND needs last possession of the ball. Even 20 seconds on the clock can be too much. However, the weak offenses on the schedule will ND's best defense.
that means it may be "good"
JMO: The defense will struggle; it will probably make more big plays than the past 2 seasons, but it will also give up big plays as typical of BVG's defense. In close games,considering this D, ND needs last possession of the ball. Even 20 seconds on the clock can be too much. However, the weak offenses on the schedule will ND's best defense.
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UT's offense will not represent much of a test. UT will have a young talented defense, that will test the new receivers and OL.
The last 30 seconds of the Stanford game will live in infamy as much as "4th and nine". This big play nonsense has to stop or this team will just be spinning its wheels in all the big games. We all saw it coming as early as 2015 Georgia Tech but that win white washed what was starting to happen. All this team needs is a consistent decent defense IMO. It's the unknown that's worrisome. Talking up the defense on message boards won't do it. It can only be done on the field.
It all comes down to injuries during the season. How many and who? There is talent on the defense no doubt about it. A leader on D will have to emerge as the season wears on.
At this stage of Kelly's tenure , the defense should be at the very least, good. It really hasn't been that good. I don't know if it will be good, bad or indifferent. What I do know is this. You have to be consistent on defense and keep opponents under 25 points a game if you want a real chance at a great and possibly a championship season. The defense keeping the score to 25 points in today's style of offense is actually pretty good. We will see how it goes.
Until BVG shows the ability to stop a quality opponent late in the game wheb it is a close score I have to agree with the article.
Far too many times in the last few years BVG has allowed one of the two following)
A. The opponent has gotten off to a fast 2 + scores and left ND to play catch up (Clemson, Ohio State Fiesta Bowl)
B. The opponent has been given to easy of late scoring chances late in the game (Stanford)
Far too many times in the last few years BVG has allowed one of the two following)
A. The opponent has gotten off to a fast 2 + scores and left ND to play catch up (Clemson, Ohio State Fiesta Bowl)
B. The opponent has been given to easy of late scoring chances late in the game (Stanford)
ND's defense has been...frustrating. They seem to play to a 'read and react' mentality which allows the opposing offenses to play their hand. I would like to see ND's defense become 'offensive' (actively aggressive; attacking) - ATTACK THE FOOTBALL
I look at the problem from two perspectives.
First, as far as Kelly is concerned he has two problems with the D that are both in his control. He can get rid of BVG. He can also use his running game to milk clock & protect leads.
From BVG's side. Dude, you have 5* players getting burned by 2* players because you confuse the hell out of everybody. When you play BC just go man on man with safetys over the top & let your studs be studs.
I'm an old Holtz guy, but he did it best. He looked at the other team & said you can't beat me man for man so I'm going to force you to. And he won all those games by 3 TDs.
How many teams on our schedule have actual better players than us?
First, as far as Kelly is concerned he has two problems with the D that are both in his control. He can get rid of BVG. He can also use his running game to milk clock & protect leads.
From BVG's side. Dude, you have 5* players getting burned by 2* players because you confuse the hell out of everybody. When you play BC just go man on man with safetys over the top & let your studs be studs.
I'm an old Holtz guy, but he did it best. He looked at the other team & said you can't beat me man for man so I'm going to force you to. And he won all those games by 3 TDs.
How many teams on our schedule have actual better players than us?
I think he is a D Coordinator away from taking the next step.
He recruits.
He scores points.
We just need to stop people.
I said before, with the question marks on D this year & the way the offense is built we need to go two TEs, Hunter & St. Brown on the outside, & pound the rock with Folston, Adams & Williams, with run/pass option with our QBs.
Use are size & depth, milk the clock & win a bunch of games 30-16.
That is a plan for teams not considered "elite" (Top 8); but sooner or later, D needs to perform on it's own merits!
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I was on the dump BVG bandwagon last year, which was probably a year premature to fully evaluate his body of work. Hoping his complicated NFL schemes are now second nature to those who have played in his system for a year or two, and we see aggressive intuitive play with really good tackling fundamentals. This should be a make or break year for BVG, but no reason for objective sports journalists to project a good defense until his defenses start to deliver consistent disruptive and dominant play. Absent another rash of injuries, I am betting this is the year he and his defense takes a huge step forward.
He needs to get Morgan & Redfield playing like All-Americans, or at least not chickens running around with their heads cut off. They are two 5* players who are playing like 2* players in BVGs scheme.
A good coach can make a 3* look good. A bad coach makes 5* players look bad.
We need our 4* & 5* players to be dominant, especially against inferior offenses.
Ok. Everyone talks about BVG NFL style, complicated defensive schemes, that are too complicated for our 4 & 5 star players to handle. So, what is it that is so _________ complicated?? Often I hear some football analysist going on and on about this or that coverage; setup or whatever. All the while I am thinking come on, things are just happening too fast everyone is just reacting the best they can. But, I will admit to my ignorance. What is unique about BVGs schemes that make them particularly difficult to grasp, as many on this forum assert???
If it is like most NFL schemes it's a lot of "if they do this, then you do this" which puts the pressure & decision making on the players right before the play & right after the snap. Its our coaches versus your coaches.
The alternative would be to have your players be in a certain spot or responsible for a certain guy regardless of what they do. This puts the game in the hands of the best players to make plays. Our best versus your best.
Playing the first way under BVG is why sometimes you will see a NFL draft pick (Russell) & a 5* player (Redfield) looking at each other with their hands up trying to figure out why the left a freshman WR wide open for a long TD. (Pitt game)
