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Didn't Make the Top 50

Looks like FSU would have been a whole lot higher than # 10 if they didn't have the local police in their pocket.

"10. Florida State 19

Imagine what FSU's arrest rate would be if Tallahassee police actually arrested football players. "
 
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Looks like FSU would have been a whole lot higher than # 10 if they didn't have the local police in their pocket.

"10. Florida State 19

Imagine what FSU's arrest rate would be if Tallahassee police actually arrested football players. "
We have a few other FSU obsessed posters on this board. Maybe you guys should all get together and party. :rolleyes:
 
Looks like FSU would have been a whole lot higher than # 10 if they didn't have the local police in their pocket.

"10. Florida State 19

Imagine what FSU's arrest rate would be if Tallahassee police actually arrested football players. "
Local police in their pocket? That's a joke. The one criticism in Tally is the almost vendetta that the States Attorney historically has had against FSU players. Almost always over charges and consequently loses more cases than they should.

You don't have a clue.
 
Lol.... I'm sure

They must not have included under age drinking arrests in their research.
Hey douche, that's why ND isn't on the list. Floyd-twice, and Carlo/Rees. I count that as four. Hence why ND isn't on the list. Learn to read better. ND may have a moron coach but they have the classiest players around.
 
Local police in their pocket? That's a joke. The one criticism in Tally is the almost vendetta that the States Attorney historically has had against FSU players. Almost always over charges and consequently loses more cases than they should.

You don't have a clue.
This guy forgot about Karlos Williams and his transporting of drugs last year just being swept under the rug.
 
Vendetta?
Why does every no1e fan have an excuse for everything bad that happens in Tally? It is never the players fault, nor the coach's fault. Blame it on the media, blame it on the State's Attorney, blah blah blah.
What nole fans have an excuse? Who ever said it wasn't the player's fault?

All I said was to say there would be more FSU arrests if the authorities didn't sweep arrests under the rug is absurd. It's just the opposite. The general consensus has been for years that the local SA goes after players and over charges way too often. FSU players seldom get a break from the SA.

Argus is starting to rub off on a few posters here. Blah, blah, blah .......
 
Hey douche, that's why ND isn't on the list. Floyd-twice, and Carlo/Rees. I count that as four. Hence why ND isn't on the list. Learn to read better. ND may have a moron coach but they have the classiest players around.
I'm sure the ND players are classy. Certainly more classy than some of their fans.

My point is ND had 11 FB players arrested at one party and 10 lacrosse players arrested at another for underage drinking. Do they just pick and choose which arrests to count?

And that's just one university. How does that translate to other school's where they didn't count certain arrests.

Not pointing fingers or excusing any FSU arrests. Nineteen over 5 years by any method is absurd and embarrassing.
 
Argus isn't really on thus thread man maybe it would be better if you go chase him somewhere else.
 
Vendetta?
Why does every no1e fan have an excuse for everything bad that happens in Tally? It is never the players fault, nor the coach's fault. Blame it on the media, blame it on the State's Attorney, blah blah blah.
I will say this, during my daughter's time at FSU it was widely accepted that the Tallahassee police were very unfriendly to FSU athletes.
 
I will say this, during my daughter's time at FSU it was widely accepted that the Tallahassee police were very unfriendly to FSU athletes.
I grew up in Tallahassee and I can attest that they are unfriendly to everyone. Those guys are grade A d-bags. Are you familiar with the Rachel Hoffman story? Google it if not. They paid a lot of money on that one. Totally disgraceful behavior on their part. They have had scandal after scandal well before anything with FSU athletes came into the media.

Now, the Leon Co. Sheriffs Dept., different story. Those guys were always cool. Way laid back and friendly.

I'm in my mid 30's and maybe this crop of TPD officers grew up as FSU fans in the 90's like I did and are more friendly to athletes. I have no idea. But I would put my money on incompetence way before I would put it on them letting anyone off intentionally. There are 5-6 guys I knew at different points growing up that now work for TPD and all but one are idiots.
 
I was going to sit back and laugh as Mo1e continues to make a joke of himself trying to defend the indefensible, but I'm missing too much fun, not to jump in.

Right, it's the Tallahassee Police picking on FSU players? That is as funny as saying Bowden never cheated or agreeing that Jumbo is proud of the likes of Winston, Williams and Cook. So what if they beat on and rape women??????

Please note that this Mo1e moron is trying to compare "not counting" underage drinking into these numbers and comparing it to the non reporting of rape, hit and run charges, and beating on women. This is simply a good example of his inability to see reality and lying about the same when he does see it! What a POS, just like FSU and its coaches!
 
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That was one post which should have been expected but it barely attacked FSU and had nothing to do with you. Now epic is here so it's a party congrats.
 
http://www.wndu.com/home/headlines/98659904.html

Link to arrests of eight ND football players, two basketball players, and nine hockey players back in 2010. Over-all 44 arrests were made at a party celebrating the 21st birthday of hockey team member.

As far as thinking local cops are over zealous in arresting athletes/university students, you hear that all the time if you reside in a college town.
 
I'm sure the ND players are classy. Certainly more classy than some of their fans.

My point is ND had 11 FB players arrested at one party and 10 lacrosse players arrested at another for underage drinking. Do they just pick and choose which arrests to count?

And that's just one university. How does that translate to other school's where they didn't count certain arrests.

Not pointing fingers or excusing any FSU arrests. Nineteen over 5 years by any method is absurd and embarrassing.
Just guessing, but I would assume they eliminated underage drinking from the analysis for all schools. Including that would skew everything, and could lead to misleading results, judged purely by numbers of arrests.
 
More likely cause is that those arrests were made by ND campus police and ND doesn't release those statistics per policy
 
I was going to sit back and laugh as Mo1e continues to make a joke of himself trying to defend the indefensible, but I'm missing too much fun, not to jump in.

Right, it's the Tallahassee Police picking on FSU players? That is as funny as saying Bowden never cheated or agreeing that Jumbo is proud of the likes of Winston, Williams and Cook. So what if they beat on and rape women??????

Please note that this Mo1e moron is trying to compare "not counting" underage drinking into these numbers and comparing it to the non reporting of rape, hit and run charges, and beating on women. This is simply a good example of his inability to see reality and lying about the same when he does see it! What a POS, just like FSU and its coaches!
Great ...now the two headed idiot is here. Might as well make it a trifecta. Bring on dubs.
 
More likely cause is that those arrests were made by ND campus police and ND doesn't release those statistics per policy

The survey is from August 2010 forward. The multiple ND "party arrests" were in July 2010.

 
More likely cause is that those arrests were made by ND campus police and ND doesn't release those statistics per policy
I also think there are some places where you are not "arrested" for underage drinking or MIP, you get a citation like a parking ticket.
 
The survey is from August 2010 forward. The multiple ND "party arrests" were in July 2010.


Well, there's the answer. Mahoney arrested in the summer of 2014, Rees and Calabrese in March of 2012, and Floyd in March of 2011. Still four players too many, but at least so far this off-season ND hasn't made the Fulmer Cup list (knock on wood).
 
Just for fun, Mo1e brings up ND not counting "arrests" for a party with ND football players who were underage drinking, but he fails to mention Winston was under age drinking, feeding drinks to an under age girl who he then raped and he skated from any charge whatsoever! Yep, that's the Tallahassee PD picking on FSU football.

What a POS Mo1e remains!
 
Just for fun, Mo1e brings up ND not counting "arrests" for a party with ND football players who were underage drinking, but he fails to mention Winston was under age drinking, feeding drinks to an under age girl who he then raped and he skated from any charge whatsoever! Yep, that's the Tallahassee PD picking on FSU football.

What a POS Mo1e remains!
Listen moron...... I simply asked a question. Did they count drinking under age arrests ANYWHERE in compiling their stats?

And you know absolutely nothing. You have no clue if Winston was drinking. He was there legally as the place is an 18 and over club. There's nothing in the 1000+ page investigation or report that says he was drinking. There's nothing that states he was "feeding" the lying girl with five different versions of what happened that night (none of which are supported by evidence or witness accounts) any drinks either. You just made that up .... AGAIN.

You're a lunatic.
 
OK, the girl was drunk, Winston and his fellow criminals plyed her full and the n raped her, but before that he was following the law by abstaining from booze due to age? One of your more stupid lies!

Why not just lie about it again you moron!
 
Listen moron...... I simply asked a question. Did they count drinking under age arrests ANYWHERE in compiling their stats?

And you know absolutely nothing. You have no clue if Winston was drinking. He was there legally as the place is an 18 and over club. There's nothing in the 1000+ page investigation or report that says he was drinking. There's nothing that states he was "feeding" the lying girl with five different versions of what happened that night (none of which are supported by evidence or witness accounts) any drinks either. You just made that up .... AGAIN.

You're a lunatic.
OK, the girl was drunk, Winston and his fellow criminals plyed her full and the n raped her, but before that he was following the law by abstaining from booze due to age? One of your more stupid lies!

Why not just lie about it again you moron!
You're the liar at this site. Not a post of yours slides by without some sort of lie.

She admits she was drinking at Pot Bellies. Nowhere does it say Winston was nor does the record say Winston plied her with booze. Plus tox reports indicate she didn't have enough booze in her system to impair her. All witnesses, including her own friends, stated she was fine and was texting them totally coherent. Nothing else happened that indicates a rape occured. In fact every bit of evidence is inconsistent with most rape cases. You just made that up

Face it.... Winston is innocent of rape (at least the evidence indicates that) and it kills you. "Innocent until proven guilty". You might think about moving to another country if you don't believe in America's judicial system or the Bill of Rights.

You have been asked by numerous posters to name one piece of evidence that supports your obsession for Winston and rape and we've yet to get an answer.

What else is new?
 
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