Devin Leary
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I hope Card shares those same sentiments. From what I am hearing, he’s wanting to stay in Texas (Baylor and TCU are the main players). Which is crazy because ND seems to check a lot of boxes for him. Time will tell, I suppose.
It's going to be Sam Hartman. That's why we're not hearing anything. Because it's a done deal, but it's all quiet-like because he has to play in his bowl game first, so discretion is the order of the day. And then he'll make the trek north from Winston-Salem, a city named after two different brands of cigarettes, up to ND. And he'll be as good or better than Jack Coan was for us.....
Hell's yeah, bitch!
Hell's yeah, bitch!
Hartman would be a disappointment, Card and Leary have high ceilings. Hartman would be Drew Pyne 2.0. It’s Buchner or bust in 23 and 24 till Carr is ready
No, they are looking for situations that offer the least path of resistance to playing time.
Dry your eyes. There will be room for you on the bandwagon again when ND meets your expectations.
My crystal ball has been cloudy for years, so I'm probably wrong, but I think ND will have a terrible time finding a QB that is willing to compete with Buchner for the job.
Exactly right. I highly doubt someone with one year of eligibility left would select a situation where playing time is questionable, especially if they have NFL aspirations. If they have multiple years of eligibility you're looking at a QB room loaded with eligibility.
Card is a talent and would be a great get. Personally, I would be more inclined to go after someone with either one year of eligibility, or someone who thinks one year of starting at QB at Notre Dame will get him to the league. Most here were intrigued by Buchner’s potential, and an injury to his non throwing shoulder just seven quarters In doesn’t change this. I thought Angela’s film showed a guy with an above average arm, who was very accurate, with good pocket presence, with decent mobility. Minchey appears to have the best traits of Buchner and Angeli combined, and we have a five star in Carr waiting to arrive in a year. We have a ton of potential in our qb room, just little to no experience. It is risky as hell to expect one of these to lead us to the playoffs next year, and so I like going after a highly skilled experienced QB to come in and compete as a one year starter.
I could go with this. Hartman is skilled, experienced and a really tough competitor.
Plus Kedon Slovis is someone we could get too. He's pretty good and pretty proven, in fact very, very proven. I don't know if he's as good as Sam Hartman, but he's definitely decent. Seems like he'd be a reasonably good fit at ND, only one year left.... Supposedly there was some interest a year ago, and if anything that's who we probably should have gone for a year ago, if we had taken a transfer then....
He's going where he's guarenteed to start. Notre Dame isn't offering that.
I think ND is not going to take anybody, that's why we're not hearing anything. They effed up. They were expecting to be able to bring in a new QB, make that the top priority for the offense, even if they're technically not 'promising' anyone the starting job. Like Jack Coan, who was also not promised the job, but everyone pretty much totally expected him to start, which he did. So distinction without a difference perhaps....
And then Drew Pyne bolted, which was most certainly not part of MF/Rees' plan, and now they are understandably spooked. They don't want to lose any more QBs to the portal. On account of, how else are the QBs already on the roster supposed to take this? Of course they are going to be both insulted, and more importantly, have the completely legitimate concern that whoever the transfer QB ends up being will become the new starter. And that very possibly they have no future at ND as a starting QB moving forward.
Which if true is why they probably should not have pursued a transfer QB to begin with, other than maybe a totally proven veteran like a Sam Hartman, which Pyne/Buchner might feel better about deferring to, and even that would still be questionable, and the better bet would be to sit tight with the QBs we already have on the roster, as there was simply no compelling need for a QB upgrade on this team, unless, again, perhaps for the lone exception of a thoroughly proven/known commodity with only one year to play....
And so now, after having already lost Pyne, and taking that surprise punch to the gut, MF/Rees are backing off altogether.....
And then Drew Pyne bolted, which was most certainly not part of MF/Rees' plan, and now they are understandably spooked. They don't want to lose any more QBs to the portal. On account of, how else are the QBs already on the roster supposed to take this? Of course they are going to be both insulted, and more importantly, have the completely legitimate concern that whoever the transfer QB ends up being will become the new starter. And that very possibly they have no future at ND as a starting QB moving forward.
Which if true is why they probably should not have pursued a transfer QB to begin with, other than maybe a totally proven veteran like a Sam Hartman, which Pyne/Buchner might feel better about deferring to, and even that would still be questionable, and the better bet would be to sit tight with the QBs we already have on the roster, as there was simply no compelling need for a QB upgrade on this team, unless, again, perhaps for the lone exception of a thoroughly proven/known commodity with only one year to play....
And so now, after having already lost Pyne, and taking that surprise punch to the gut, MF/Rees are backing off altogether.....
ND is going to take somebody. However the fan base is making an error if they think they are getting a top tier guy. That's not happening. ND is bringing in someone to COMPETE...not to take over the room. Adding Minchey as an early enrolling freshmen also makes the job less enviable as even if you can beat out Buchner (a big IF), you have to deal with a super talented freshman biting at your heals. In an ideal world, ND brings in a serviceable backup that can run the same offense as Buchner. Hopefully Rees realizes that he doesn't need Buchner to have 11 rushes a game to win and doesn't kill the QB.
I don't know, we'll see. Obviously that's just my little theory. But we haven't heard shit in a while, and yet on the CFB daily news wire all we hear about is Hudson Card and Leary and other leading names actively visiting other schools, including even Drew Pyne visiting BYU, which I think would be awesome if he went there, for some reason.....
And the idea of bringing in some non-top tier player, so as to 'compete', and not simply beat out our current QBs like a Sam Hartman probably would and thus represent a bona-fide upgrade, is bonkers. Like why the F would we do that or be interested in that? We already had someone like that in Drew Pyne, and he was/is a fully proven, good to occasionally excellent actual player and performer for us, even if his pure talent level was pedestrian. Like what cotton pickin' moron of a coach would be interested in replacing Drew Pyne with some random middling newcomer, some stranger to the program?
So I'm sticking with my theory that we either have Sam Hartman in the bag, and he'll join up and announce publicly once WF's bowl game is in the books. Or we're backing off altogether, after burning our fingers pretty badly with the unanticipated loss of Drew Pyne. If we take some obvious bench warmer type guy, who's not any kind of threat to Buchner, or even Angeli, and is really no more than another RPIII, I don't even consider that taking anyone at all. That's nothing more than the proverbial warm body. Might as well give that scholarship to a walk-on....
I will throw in Kedon Slovis as a dark horse as well.....
Sam Hartman is a system QB, he has almost no velocity on deep balls. It's very unlikely he's even being looked at.
Can you just STFU? Jesus Christ, of all the authentically delusional know-it-alls on this board, you have to be the worst. Most of these cretins are just trolls, and they don't really mean anything they say, they just babble. But I get the feeling you take some of your own ramblings fairly seriously, even though they're just as utterly tendentious and jaundiced and stupid as the most blatant trolls.
Anyway, Sam Hartman probably isn't going to end up transferring to ND, way to effin' go out on a limb. But it isn't going to be because he's a weak-armed 'system QB', and thus he sucks and quite naturally we would never want him. And I apologize for in any way welcoming or encouraging you to reply to me. That was my fault. Because you have to have the worst possible takes of anyone on this board with even a pretense of actual football seriousness....
BYU has a promising true freshman in the fold. A very bad move for Pyne
" gut punch " ? It's not like Joe Montana up and left.
I think so. He was a capable starting QB for us. And I do not think the staff was expecting him to transfer. That would be my guess. So yeah, I think it's a gut punch.
Unlike fans, coaches live in reality. They actually have to field a team.....
Just hoping we see enough quarterback good in the bowl game to get us to next fall with some sense of optimism. Getting the right quarterback from the portal is going to be extremely difficult.
It's funny, cynical fans talk about the whole skipping the bowl game thing if you're an NFL prospect, as merely a fashionable thing to do, a status symbol. What all the cool kids are doing.....
Maybe that goes for coaches too, and certainly young coaches. Both young HCs and young OCs who are too wet behind the ears and don't know any better. And they can't resist the urge to hit the transfer portal and get a new QB because that's what all the cool coaches are doing.
So we're all waiting with bated breath to see how this plays out.....
Maybe that goes for coaches too, and certainly young coaches. Both young HCs and young OCs who are too wet behind the ears and don't know any better. And they can't resist the urge to hit the transfer portal and get a new QB because that's what all the cool coaches are doing.
So we're all waiting with bated breath to see how this plays out.....
Not a fan of portal dudes. Journeymen. On Playstation playing NCAA Football 2012 and before, I would never recruit juco dudes to my team, even if they wanted to come, nope. I mean, was Coan an ND guy? No. He was a Flex-Seal ND guy. I don't like it.
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