Deland gone
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I keep hearing he wants a head coaching job? He left the Kansas Chiefs for the ND job but then leaves for the Raiders job? I have a feeling Denbrock and him didn't get along because this seems like a downgrade going to the Raiders who fire coaches every year.
Throwing a Name out there former Ohio State RB coach Stan Drayton.
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According to the AI you may be right. It seems like NFL position coaches only make slightly more than their P4-college program counterparts.
NFL position coaches make $400-$600K on average.
College football position coaches at the P4 level make $150-$500K
Elite college programs/blue bloods (ND level) sometimes pay as much as $1M in salary to position coaches.
My guess is that ND probably is more in the P4-level bucket in terms of what they pay position coaches, so this seems like a very lateral move.
Based on McCullough's results as a recruiter, he probably just wanted to go to a league where he could coach talent and not have to recruit it.
$1 million: Frank Wilson, LSU+
$850,000: Tony Alford, Michigan+; Robert Gillespie, Alabama+; Derrick Nix, Auburn*
$725,000: Deland McCullough, Notre Dame
Not true. He left Indiana for ND. The NFL is the highest level of his chosen profession. These guys don't look at being employed by ND from a fans perspective. It's a job and he's moving to one that he feels is in his best professional interest. Why does there have to be some conflict ? How is going to the top level a downgrade ? Stuff like this is the nature of that profession. ND is not every coaches "dream" job. It's business. No different than the rest of us.
Lol. There you are. Crickets on OSU but found tine to passively and inaccurately say ND was under paying
From what I understand this was a fairly recent development. Pete Carroll went hard for him I'm told. Deland wasn't actively looking to leave. Nature of the beast.
Outside of matching the highest percentile pay for coordinators ND is infamous for notoriously penny pinching when it comes to investing in their football product. I know this is not kosher to say around ND fans, because nothing ND does is deserving of criticism ever in the eyes of NDs many fans, but it's the truth.
While this loss does hurt, RB coach is among the easier position coaches to replace. Good luck to Deland and thanks for all that he did.
Strange how many coaches stay in college and don't choose to go to the NFL. I guess you think Bear Bryant and Ara and others are losers, right?
Who referred to anyone as "losers" ? It almost seems as some here get offended if someone chooses to leave Notre Dame. Heaven forbid an individual takes advantage of an opportunity.
So as long as a coach stays in college it's acceptable to you ? If Deland had gone to Alabama say that would have been OK or should Ara have had to stay at Northwestern or Bear at A&M ? Just trying understand the point you are trying to make. Hell Lou Holtz went to the NFL and didn't even last an entire season and resigned. What category does he go in ?
Yep, we should all understand coaching is a business, and they have families and sometimes more/different aspirations. My big concern is I don't think freeman has the best plans to backfill key losses. Like business, you should always be doing succession planning and continuation, even with people you are confident aren't leaving. So if something happens you have a plan to execute on.
ND was not prepared for Rees to leave and it hurt us big time in 2023, i'm not sure we were prepared for golden to leave, i don't love Ash, and we'll see the impact it has on our 2025 season. Thankfully Denbrock wanted to be back at ND, and he respects freeman. I think there's a ton of respect for freeman out there, but you can't go to the market to figure out options for replacements when it's too late.
Every head coach I've ever known has their lists as they all know how it works. They weren't unprepared for Rees leaving they just weren't able to land the person they wanted. Timing is always huge.
Obviously Lou Holtz saw the error of his ways, he realized what he had done, that he had erred very gravely, that he never had any business leaving the college ranks, and he wasn't a fool to do it, he was a jerk! You don't leave CFB, for the pros. What are you, nuts? Everybody knows that. You just don't do it. If there's one thing you don't do as a football coach it's that. You stay right where you are in the collegiate football ranks. And Holtz came hustling back with a quickness. Because he knew he was wrong.
Again, I will repeat….you didn’t mention once about OSU…and couldn’t wait to opine (incorrectly as usual) on ND
And you have already been exposed as stating opinion and not facts when you post some general and myopic thoughts. You were claiming ND was underpaying prior to start of 2024 when our coordinators were making north of $2M.
Inaccurate. Rees situation was known in plenty of time and Utah boy was disingenuous in his restrictions
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