And ND football have parted ways. Interesting. Great recruiter.
Hopefully Can Williams doesn’t jump ship.
Hopefully Can Williams doesn’t jump ship.
Chansi Stuckey
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Cam is sticking. Guy on another site reached out to him. Good news. Loved Chansi as a person and a damn good recruiter but our WRs have underperformed the last two years. They don't get open or fight for contested balls. Maybe Parker moves to TE/WR and we bring in a new OC.
But who also had no experience as a WR coach (one year.) I'm thinking there might be more to this...
Shouldn't start speculations or conspiracy theories, but......
Wonder if this had anything to do with Tyree's departure. I heard smoke that the players did not care for how Stuckey spoke to players.So much for keeping all the coaches on. Did anyone actually think he would publicly come out and say otherwise?
Too bad it didn't work out. Seems like a good guy. Freeman gonna hire his buddy Hartline now??? 🤣
Great recruiter. Struggled as a coach
People were concerned Freeman couldn't make tough decisions. Not here. He made it
People were concerned Freeman couldn't make tough decisions. Not here. He made it
I’ll believe it when we fire Parker and get a real OC.
Perhaps with Tyree leaving and rumours of Braylon James and Tobias Merriweather entering the Portal brought about this?
I think the bottom line is as guys got injured they didn't exactly rush back to play for coach stuck. Lots of rumors about the room being an issue.
I'm not concerned about losing Cam or Tobias if the guys that stay are dialed in.
Until proven otherwise tobias hasn't shown much. I don't agree with those that say he should be playing more. The only thing he's shown on two years is the ability to run a post one on one. I don't blame development there, I just don't think he's an alpha.
I'm not concerned about losing Cam or Tobias if the guys that stay are dialed in.
Until proven otherwise tobias hasn't shown much. I don't agree with those that say he should be playing more. The only thing he's shown on two years is the ability to run a post one on one. I don't blame development there, I just don't think he's an alpha.
Makes you wonder what happened with Styles? Who came on fast as a Freshman in 2021, and had a massive Fiesta Bowl.
Then last season despite some issues with drops he was the team’s leading pass catcher at WR, and 2nd leading pass catcher on the team behind Mayer.
Then he’s moving to DB? Then he’s transferring to Ohio State?
Then last season despite some issues with drops he was the team’s leading pass catcher at WR, and 2nd leading pass catcher on the team behind Mayer.
Then he’s moving to DB? Then he’s transferring to Ohio State?
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The previous coach didnt fire his OCs after 1 year so Id be surprised if this coach did
Losing both of those would be crushing because on pure talent and athleticism they are our top 2 guys. Losing one would sting but managebale
Braylon is in that mix as well as different types of athletes. Those 3 are guys you need to have and develop because when you play the Georgias OSUs and Bamas you need those type of athletes
Suggests that he believes the WRs were a significant issue with opening up offense….
You have to get of BD's jock.
In two years merriweather has 15 catches and less than 325 yards.
To put that into perspective
Tyree a first year had 26 and over 400
Flores a 18 year old had 27 and 392
Greathouse has 16 and 252 while missing multiple games.
I'm sure merriweather is a good kid, but he has not shown anything to be called one of the two best on the team. Athleticism is great...unless you can't get off a press and don't compete for the ball.
Cam hasn't played a down. Losing him costs us nothing. Does he have potential, surely. But don't over react.
BD ?
I didn't say he was currently one of the 2 best. I said he has top 2 talent and athleticism and that is 100% true. You do not push talent out the door. You develop them. Tobias always was raw coming out of HS. He was going to take time
Tobias first 2 years
15 rec 325 yards 21.7 yc 3 TDs
Miles Boykin first 2 years
6 rec 81 yards 13.5 1 TD
Chase Claypool First 2 years
34 rec 483 yard 15yc 2 TD
Kevin Austin First 3 years
6 rec 108 yard 18ypc 0 TD
Javon Mckinley First 3 years
11 rec 268 yard 24.4 yc 4 TD
Devaris Daniels First 2 years
31 rec 490 15 yc 0 TD
You dont give up on talent after 2 years. You dont throw away athletic talented players. Thats just stupid
And Cam is ridiculously talented. That would be a huge blow
You do not give up, but you don't sweat a guy leaving that might develop to give you one high level year. And I'm not taking touches from Flores, faison, cam, or greathouse either.
You always sweat losing talented players that can be difference makers. Those are the type of guys that get you over the hump that we haven't got over in 30 years. You need as many as those guys as possible
If you cant develop elite type talents, thats a coaching problem....see Chansi Stuckey
Tobias is not as good of a wr as those guys you mentioned right now. No doubt. That is why you hire coaches who can develop. It will be on the next guy to get the most out of guys like Braylon and Tobias
ND has what 23 players coming in, but do not have 23 leaving. Merriweather wants to go than fine. I have a feeling Cam Williams is going to get major reps next year. He is a man amougts boys in high school. He already has a college body. It would be foolishness to see Braylon leave especially since Tyree is gone. He is in for major reps next year.
Please hold off on the hype. We heard the same thing about Merriweather when he was coming in. Let's wait until they at least get on campus and get some reps in before we start hyping up a 17 year old high school kid like he's the next Jerry Rice.
Interesting, I had not heard that. I know he is a devout Christian in the Dabo mold, so that surprises me. I'm a life long teacher (University) so I know there is a real art to teaching. Not everyone has that gene.Shouldn't start speculations or conspiracy theories, but......
I did notice that Styles 4* #18 WR, Colzie 4* #14 WR (was injured this year), but neither one showed real improvement last year -- and although our Freshmen were impressive this year, Thomas didn't show real improvement before his injury. I will trust our head coach on this one.
Merryweather might just be a question of a coach not reaching him about his need to be tougher. Kid does get separation as good as any one since Fuller (and damn, we really need that!) but he has yet to really show that killer instinct on contested catches. I predict he will under a new coach. (Hope I'm right!)
Dude your lost on this one. If I'm trying to keep the wr room viable Tobias and Cam are the last ones I'd worry about.
Ever watch him block? I think he’s tough. Or at least wants to be
Lol. Wow great response.
Basically your saying screw the guys that showed potential on the field for the guys that haven't.
You would lose any position group in a day
No I actually didnt say anything at all like that. You just made that up out of nowhere
I have heard Stuckey's dismissal had little to do with development and more about how he was giving preferential treatment to some WRs over others. Rumors were swirling of a mass exodus of the WRs because of this. Also heard his use of different personal during practice as opposed to games (guessing even in scripted plays). Makes me wonder if the 1st INT Harman threw in the Louisville game had been practiced and scripted to Tobis all week but Stuckey chose to play Rico. From what I have heard some of the things going on affected the WR room, SH and the total offense over all. Again this is just a rumor I heard so one can take it as they see fit.
Moving the goal posts as always. You are the biggest fool on this forum. Keep changing the narrative to avoid having to admit being wrong. you are the biggest loser i've ever interacted with. 😂
You say that about everyone. Who cares. Like I said before, come up with something original.
Is it Chase, IrishJohn, IrishMike, me etc etc.
Who cares
And I'll say it again, what he said, i never said anything like that, if I did, put it up here
This will be the 3rd WR coach in 4 seasons, and in a room constantly struggling with numbers, to have 2 guys enter the portal is not a good thing.
Some schools seem to routinely put out Biletnikoff Candidates. ND struggles to find WR who can catch 30 balls and go over 400 yards.
My guess would be Freeman is going to grab 2 guys out of the portal, to get the numbers right. When you watch football on Sunday,
I see Ben Skowronek doing work and playing snaps in LA. We could use 1 or 2 of him. He was a very productive receiver in the 2020 season. 29 catches 439 yards 15 avg and 5 TDs
Some schools seem to routinely put out Biletnikoff Candidates. ND struggles to find WR who can catch 30 balls and go over 400 yards.
My guess would be Freeman is going to grab 2 guys out of the portal, to get the numbers right. When you watch football on Sunday,
I see Ben Skowronek doing work and playing snaps in LA. We could use 1 or 2 of him. He was a very productive receiver in the 2020 season. 29 catches 439 yards 15 avg and 5 TDs
