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There is a lot of football left. I did not sleep at all last night. This is what happens when you have a head coach with limited. Head coaching experience even though there were several WTF moments mostly in the last 4 minutes and it did not help our receivers were getting mugged. Golden should know better on personnel packages. I am hoping this will be a growing experience. The better team lost that game. OSU got lucky on a long run other than that the defense played lights and can play with anybody.
I have a feeling this team will bounce back.
 
The problem is they routinely lose to top 10 opponents. So what if they beat up on the Wake Forest, Lousivilles of the world? They’ll have a shot at redemption against USC, but if they fall to SC and go 10-2 (Clemson is not the team of old) that’s a very very hollow 10-2.
 
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There is a lot of football left. I did not sleep at all last night. This is what happens when you have a head coach with limited. Head coaching experience even though there were several WTF moments mostly in the last 4 minutes and it did not help our receivers were getting mugged. Golden should know better on personnel packages. I am hoping this will be a growing experience. The better team lost that game. OSU got lucky on a long run other than that the defense played lights and can play with anybody.
I have a feeling this team will bounce back.
Golden has been a DC and defensive coach for decades. On the job training for him?

Kelly had awful moments and he's been a HC for 30 years.

The lack of coaching experience is a stupid one. It was an awful series. No excuses.

Just dont use the coaching experience excuse. That's lazy and stupid

He has to be better. That was pathetic at the end. Who cares about the experience part
 
There is a lot of football left. I did not sleep at all last night. This is what happens when you have a head coach with limited. Head coaching experience even though there were several WTF moments mostly in the last 4 minutes and it did not help our receivers were getting mugged. Golden should know better on personnel packages. I am hoping this will be a growing experience. The better team lost that game. OSU got lucky on a long run other than that the defense played lights and can play with anybody.
I have a feeling this team will bounce back.
When you have 10 players on the field for the last two game deciding plays, and that after Marcus Freeman called a timeout.....please don't say ".....the better team lost that game."

Please.
 
There is a lot of football left. I did not sleep at all last night. This is what happens when you have a head coach with limited. Head coaching experience even though there were several WTF moments mostly in the last 4 minutes and it did not help our receivers were getting mugged. Golden should know better on personnel packages. I am hoping this will be a growing experience. The better team lost that game. OSU got lucky on a long run other than that the defense played lights and can play with anybody.
I have a feeling this team will bounce back.
I’m too old and tired and smart to believe what you are selling. The past 2 weeks were garbage
 
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When you have 10 players on the field for the last two game deciding plays, and that after Marcus Freeman called a timeout.....please don't say ".....the better team lost that game."

Please.
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One can only hope !

But do you want a neurosurgeon who’s learning on the job operating on your child ?
You gonna REALLY compare what a neurosurgeon does with the result of a football game? You REALLY gotta learn perspective, dude.
 
You gonna REALLY compare what a neurosurgeon does with the result of a football game? You REALLY gotta learn perspective, dude.
Obviously my comment was above your comprehension level !

It’s wasnt about the football game, it was an analogy, one between a head coach and a surgeon and the critical element that experience plays in the selection of both

Have someone with a brain explain that to you
 
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Obviously my comment was above your comprehension level !

It’s wasnt about the football game, it was an analogy, one between a head coach and a surgeon and the critical element that experience plays in the selection of both

Have someone with a brain explain that to you
Ironic, coming from someone whose first interaction with me was based on a total lack of your own comprehension of a comment I made...go look it up...

Reading comprehension is not an issue...you don't get a PhD from ND without learning to read and write a second language...so that means three for me...

Again, I say...internet tough guy...and I don't care how many types of horrible cancer you've beaten, how many wives you've buried or how hard your life has been...you are just a nasty piece of work...

Of course I understood the analogy...but it was a poor, tasteless one...and if you had any brains, you'd know that...have someone with a brain explain that to you.
 
Ironic, coming from someone whose first interaction with me was based on a total lack of your own comprehension of a comment I made...go look it up...

Reading comprehension is not an issue...you don't get a PhD from ND without learning to read and write a second language...so that means three for me...

Again, I say...internet tough guy...and I don't care how many types of horrible cancer you've beaten, how many wives you've buried or how hard your life has been...you are just a nasty piece of work...

Of course I understood the analogy...but it was a poor, tasteless one...and if you had any brains, you'd know that...have someone with a brain explain that to you.
It wasn’t tasteless in the least, it was a crystal clear analogy that you didn’t understand at your first read.

A PhD ? Father Brennan, known as “red” and “88 Brennan”, my “Logic” Professor my freshman year always reminded the class that “PhD” stood for “Piled higher and deeper”
and not to accept their argument from “authority”.

As to being nasty, I don’t suffer fools well, and that includes PhD’s !
 
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There is a lot of football left. I did not sleep at all last night. This is what happens when you have a head coach with limited. Head coaching experience even though there were several WTF moments mostly in the last 4 minutes and it did not help our receivers were getting mugged. Golden should know better on personnel packages. I am hoping this will be a growing experience. The better team lost that game. OSU got lucky on a long run other than that the defense played lights and can play with anybody.
I have a feeling this team will bounce back.
I agree with calm down everyone
 
This was a tired team folks. You can't want to be physical and then not bring it every game. Coaches did fine in game. Of course everyone nit picks, but the fact is the execution was horrible this game. ND needed a spark and couldn't generate one. Moreover I think it's obvious rairdon, Thomas, and Greathouse weren't full go and their participation was exaggerated to try to get the d out of the box.
 
This was a tired team folks. You can't want to be physical and then not bring it every game. Coaches did fine in game. Of course everyone nit picks, but the fact is the execution was horrible this game. ND needed a spark and couldn't generate one. Moreover I think it's obvious rairdon, Thomas, and Greathouse weren't full go and their participation was exaggerated to try to get the d out of the box.
Take a look at the “snap counts”, then the number of pass plays, it may change your mind.
 
It wasn’t tasteless in the least, it was a crystal clear analogy that you didn’t understand at your first read.

A PhD ? Father Brennan, known as “red” and “88 Brennan”, my “Logic” Professor my freshman year always reminded the class that “PhD” stood for “Piled higher and deeper”
and not to accept their argument from “authority”.

As to being nasty, I don’t suffer fools well, and that includes PhD’s !
It was tasteless and insensitive, especially considering the purported suffering you have experienced with your family...you just don't know it since you lack empathy...

And there are MANY PhDs that are as described by Father Brennan...I am not one of them...in fact, George Howard, a long-time religion and philosophy prof, referred to this reference as the laziest of criticisms one can make towards an academic...he and Red got along well...

Your problem is that you see anyone that doesn't agree with you as the fool...which makes you the fool...go on, be the tough guy again...use a bigger font this time so you get even more attention...

You clearly have a brain...learn how to manage it and your emotional reactions
 
It was tasteless and insensitive, especially considering the purported suffering you have experienced with your family...you just don't know it since you lack empathy...

And there are MANY PhDs that are as described by Father Brennan...I am not one of them...in fact, George Howard, a long-time religion and philosophy prof, referred to this reference as the laziest of criticisms one can make towards an academic...he and Red got along well...

Your problem is that you see anyone that doesn't agree with you as the fool...which makes you the fool...go on, be the tough guy again...use a bigger font this time so you get even more attention...

You clearly have a brain...learn how to manage it and your emotional reactions
Ouch!
 
It was tasteless and insensitive, especially considering the purported suffering you have experienced with your family...you just don't know it since you lack empathy...

And there are MANY PhDs that are as described by Father Brennan...I am not one of them...in fact, George Howard, a long-time religion and philosophy prof, referred to this reference as the laziest of criticisms one can make towards an academic...he and Red got along well...

Your problem is that you see anyone that doesn't agree with you as the fool...which makes you the fool...go on, be the tough guy again...use a bigger font this time so you get even more attention...

You clearly have a brain...learn how to manage it and your emotional reactions
Well stated. I actually consider it as constructive advice for Pat to consider. This was not a contentious attack but well put notions for Pat’s consideration.
 
It was tasteless and insensitive, especially considering the purported suffering you have experienced with your family...you just don't know it since you lack empathy...

And there are MANY PhDs that are as described by Father Brennan...I am not one of them...in fact, George Howard, a long-time religion and philosophy prof, referred to this reference as the laziest of criticisms one can make towards an academic...he and Red got along well...

Your problem is that you see anyone that doesn't agree with you as the fool...which makes you the fool...go on, be the tough guy again...use a bigger font this time so you get even more attention...

You clearly have a brain...learn how to manage it and your emotional reactions
So accentuating the value of “experience” by drawing an analogy with a neurosurgeon is tasteless and insensitive ? If that’s tasteless and insensitive you must be some wimp !

You don’t have a clue when it comes to my empathy !

88’s comment was meant to emphasize the elitist attitude maintained by the many PhD’s he came in contact with, along with the many that we would come in contact with.

No, my problem, if I have one, is that at this stage of my life I don’t suffer fools.

I welcome opinions that differ from mine so long as they’re based on facts and prudent reasoning. Absent facts and geometric like reasoning I’m going to disagree and challenge them. I’m sorry if you’re so super sensitive that that upsets you Get over it, it’s healthy debate that sometimes turns contentious. Below is an example of a moronic statement that I challenged. Should it have been left unchallenged ?

“Notre Dame is LOADED with NFL talent at EVERY position.”

Not one of my replies is “emotional”, ”measured” would be more accurate!
Well, maybe “Go Irish ☘️”
 
So accentuating the value of “experience” by drawing an analogy with a neurosurgeon is tasteless and insensitive ? If that’s tasteless and insensitive you must be some wimp !

You don’t have a clue when it comes to my empathy !

88’s comment was meant to emphasize the elitist attitude maintained by the many PhD’s he came in contact with, along with the many that we would come in contact with.

No, my problem, if I have one, is that at this stage of my life I don’t suffer fools.

I welcome opinions that differ from mine so long as they’re based on facts and prudent reasoning. Absent facts and geometric like reasoning I’m going to disagree and challenge them. I’m sorry if you’re so super sensitive that that upsets you Get over it, it’s healthy debate that sometimes turns contentious. Below is an example of a moronic statement that I challenged. Should it have been left unchallenged ?

“Notre Dame is LOADED with NFL talent at EVERY position.”

Not one of my replies is “emotional”, ”measured” would be more accurate!
Well, maybe “Go Irish ☘️”
Pat:
Then, share your points of view in a manner that others will receive them and they will be in the open frame of mind to consider your points of view or your points based on experience. Done that way the board members / the entire board benefits from your knowledge. Appropriately pointing out the reason for disagreement, and stated position would be welcomed.
I know you know all this, so why have you taken the ‘confrontational-adversarial’ approach? Clearly you have your reasons.

As for the fonts, I’ve assumed you may suffer a vision issue and it is none of my biz.
 
Pat:
Then, share your points of view in a manner that others will receive them and they will be in the open frame of mind to consider your points of view or your points based on experience. Done that way the board members / the entire board benefits from your knowledge. Appropriately pointing out the reason for disagreement, and stated position would be welcomed.
I know you know all this, so why have you taken the ‘confrontational-adversarial’ approach? Clearly you have your reasons.

As for the fonts, I’ve assumed you may suffer a vision issue and it is none of my biz.
Correct on the vision issue.

I don‘t see one of my responsibilities as a participant on this site as that of a soothing and comforting therapist.

This is an open website where a wide variety of opinions are expressed.
Some are substantive, some are inane.

Some post “opinions” and present those opinions as “facts”
Should those posts be left to stand unchallenged ?
Should posters not be held accountable for their post ?

If you have a valid point I’ll be the first to give you a thumbs up.

But if you make an absurd post unsupported by the facts and logic, I’m going to challenge it.

For example: “The 2023 team is LOADED with NFL talent at EVERY position.”

That‘s an opinion that is ridiculously absurd, yet I was the only one to challenge it.
Should I have remained silent ?
Should I have coddled the poster ?

Time is precious and I prefer not to waste it, so just call me an acquired taste.

P.S. I don’t get bent out of shape when others call me names
 
Ticat,

What I find interesting about your criticism of the analogy I presented is that you had no problem calling me a “nasty piece of work” and that “I lacked empathy“

“I lacked empathy” ?

And you can devine that from my posts ?

Are you aware of my extensive donations to formal charities, 501c3’s ?

NO ?

Are you aware of my random gifts to people in need ?

People whose medical bills I’ve paid.
People whom I gave cars to
People I gave car seats to for their children
People whom I paid for their car repair bills
People whom I paid for their rent
People whom I paid their mortgage payments
People whom I paid their legal bills
People whom I paid for the funeral of their family member
People whom I gave money to so that they could pay for their groceries
People whom I paid for their Day Care for their children
People whom I paid their credit card bills
People whom I paid for their and their kids clothes
People whom I paid for their washer/dryers
People whom I gave money to for a down payment for their house
People whom I gave money to to pay for their kids college
People whom I gave money to just to help them get by

Is that the kind of empathy that I lacked that you were talking about ?

You proved my point, don’t offer your opinion if it lacks the pertinent and supporting facts, and if you do, be prepared to be challenged and proven wrong !

The fact is, you know nothing about me, you only know what I type !
 
So accentuating the value of “experience” by drawing an analogy with a neurosurgeon is tasteless and insensitive ? If that’s tasteless and insensitive you must be some wimp !

You don’t have a clue when it comes to my empathy !

88’s comment was meant to emphasize the elitist attitude maintained by the many PhD’s he came in contact with, along with the many that we would come in contact with.

No, my problem, if I have one, is that at this stage of my life I don’t suffer fools.

I welcome opinions that differ from mine so long as they’re based on facts and prudent reasoning. Absent facts and geometric like reasoning I’m going to disagree and challenge them. I’m sorry if you’re so super sensitive that that upsets you Get over it, it’s healthy debate that sometimes turns contentious. Below is an example of a moronic statement that I challenged. Should it have been left unchallenged ?

“Notre Dame is LOADED with NFL talent at EVERY position.”

Not one of my replies is “emotional”, ”measured” would be more accurate!
Well, maybe “Go Irish ☘️”
I don't care what stage of life you are in, or as you have gleefully outlined, what difficulties you have experienced in your life. You are an arrogant fop! More so to suggest that you know what a fool is, and that you are, in fact, not one, and therefore may not be required to "suffer them." More so to suggest that you are the arbiter of prudent and "geometric" reasoning...I take it Father Brennan never told you about the sin of Pride while piling on PhDs.

YOU make these discussions contentious, another example of your arrogance and Pride...over and out....
 
Ticat,

What I find interesting about your criticism of the analogy I presented is that you had no problem calling me a “nasty piece of work” and that “I lacked empathy“

“I lacked empathy” ?

And you can devine that from my posts ?

Are you aware of my extensive donations to formal charities, 501c3’s ?

NO ?

Are you aware of my random gifts to people in need ?

People whose medical bills I’ve paid.
People whom I gave cars to
People I gave car seats to for their children
People whom I paid for their car repair bills
People whom I paid for their rent
People whom I paid their mortgage payments
People whom I paid their legal bills
People whom I paid for the funeral of their family member
People whom I gave money to so that they could pay for their groceries
People whom I paid for their Day Care for their children
People whom I paid their credit card bills
People whom I paid for their and their kids clothes
People whom I paid for their washer/dryers
People whom I gave money to for a down payment for their house
People whom I gave money to to pay for their kids college
People whom I gave money to just to help them get by

Is that the kind of empathy that I lacked that you were talking about ?

You proved my point, don’t offer your opinion if it lacks the pertinent and supporting facts, and if you do, be prepared to be challenged and proven wrong !

The fact is, you know nothing about me, you only know what I type !
You brag a lot...I don't know anything about you other than what you present here...and until you have shown me your tax returns to substantiate these generous gifts (which do not, in and of themselves, indicate empathy - look up the definition - in fact, I would argue that you suffer from an excess of narcissism, making empathy a foreign concept to you), you have not provided the facts to which you are so dedicatedly devoted. Talk the talk when you can walk the walk.

Again, over and out...
 
Most boards have some kind of a double posting policy. Namely to prevent one person from repeatedly spamming the thread responding or disagreeing with every other post.
 
You brag a lot...I don't know anything about you other than what you present here...and until you have shown me your tax returns to substantiate these generous gifts (which do not, in and of themselves, indicate empathy - look up the definition - in fact, I would argue that you suffer from an excess of narcissism, making empathy a foreign concept to you), you have not provided the facts to which you are so dedicatedly devoted. Talk the talk when you can walk the walk.

Again, over and out...
Ouch!
 
I don't care what stage of life you are in, or as you have gleefully outlined, what difficulties you have experienced in your life. You are an arrogant fop! More so to suggest that you know what a fool is, and that you are, in fact, not one, and therefore may not be required to "suffer them." More so to suggest that you are the arbiter of prudent and "geometric" reasoning...I take it Father Brennan never told you about the sin of Pride while piling on PhDs.

YOU make these discussions contentious, another example of your arrogance and Pride...over and out....
Ouch!
 
You brag a lot...I don't know anything about you other than what you present here...and until you have shown me your tax returns to substantiate these generous gifts (which do not, in and of themselves, indicate empathy - look up the definition - in fact, I would argue that you suffer from an excess of narcissism, making empathy a foreign concept to you), you have not provided the facts to which you are so dedicatedly devoted. Talk the talk when you can walk the walk.

Again, over and out...
I didn’t brag, you disparaged me and stated that “I lacked empathy” you made that statement from a position of total ignorance, hence I felt obligated to set the record straight and prove you wrong, so I listed some of the things that clearly evidence my having a heightened degree of “empathy”

Rather than admit you misspoke, you resorted to more name calling, more disparaging remarks directed towards me, leading me to believe that you‘re a total, small minded, wimpy douche bag. Correction, you’re a small minded, wimpy douche bag with a PhD !

As to you doubting my charitable donations and wanting proof, ND in NJ has seen written verification from the University of Notre Dame that I’ve donated six figures to ND.
I’ve also donated significant amounts to Tulane, Dartmouth and UCLA, along with significant amounts to a number of hospitals and significant amounts to other very worthy charities. So, I can talk the talk and walk the walk……. Can you ?

As I suspected from the beginning, you have an issue with reading comprehension and evidently you don’t understand the definition of the word “empathy”.

Here’s the definition:


Empathy is the ability to emotionally understand what other people feel, see things from their point of view, and imagine yourself in their place. Essentially, it is putting yourself in someone else's position and feeling what they are feeling

So let’s ask, are the actions I listed above the result of my sense of what other people feel, do I see things from their point of view, and do I imagine myself in their place ?
I put myself in many other’s positions and I felt what they were feeling, which caused me to act in their best interest !

My actions, my empathy as evidenced by my willingness to help others are crystal clear and well documented

You on the other hand are a total douche bag !

OUCH !
 
Pat
Pat, you have a lot to offer, but often times it is presented, marred by a slew of adjectives directed some poster(s).
I know I just want to take in the content of what you are saying rather than waddling thru a maze of scoldings directed at some poster(s). We are not asking that you don’t offer replies when attacked, just separate the post on content from the replies to attacks. Just try.
Thanks Pat, luv ya man.
 
Pat
Pat, you have a lot to offer, but often times it is presented, marred by a slew of adjectives directed some poster(s).
I know I just want to take in the content of what you are saying rather than waddling thru a maze of scoldings directed at some poster(s). We are not asking that you don’t offer replies when attacked, just separate the post on content from the replies to attacks. Just try.
Thanks Pat, luv ya man.
D1042,

The internet deprives us of tone, context, humor, etc., etc…

In the group of terrific guys that I’ve been playing golf with for decades, being called a moron is almost a term of endearment ! It’s no big deal !

The heightened level of sensitivity on this website borders on the absurd.
That guys get excessively offended by being called names would seem to be a measure of their insecurity and fragility

It‘s an internet site where the topic, Notre Dam Football, is filled with passion.

If a poster makes a declarative statement they should be prepared to cope with challenges and counter arguments.

Do you really think that I care what some anonymous poster calls me ?
I have a family that I care for.

I have a business that I run
i have a very active social life that I’m engaged with
I have charitable interests that I support
I have a golf game that requires more attention with each passing day

TIME is very precious to me.

You can never recapture time that has been wasted, ergo I’m not going to waste time coddling imbeciles ! 😜
 
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^ that’s why we love you Pat!
P.s.
I may not know you, but I know your a guy that would respect and be comfortable with as a real life friend, so sometimes those notions spill over into or are reflected here on the forum. Well, enjoy the game tonight!

(the forum will be a bunch of chest thumpers or a bunch of lunatics complaining about a few bad calls! buckle up!)
 
I have to tape tonight’s game because I’m driving about 2 hours to take an old friend who has Alzheimer’s out to dinner at 5:30, so I’ll probably miss the first half of the game thread.

Our OLine has to dominate the LOS

Go Irish ☘️
 
Pat
Drive carefully-we look forward to your second half contributions

God speed friend
 
D1042,

The internet deprives us of tone, context, humor, etc., etc…

In the group of terrific guys that I’ve been playing golf with for decades, being called a moron is almost a term of endearment ! It’s no big deal !

The heightened level of sensitivity on this website borders on the absurd.
That guys get excessively offended by being called names would seem to be a measure of their insecurity and fragility

It‘s an internet site where the topic, Notre Dam Football, is filled with passion.

If a poster makes a declarative statement they should be prepared to cope with challenges and counter arguments.

Do you really think that I care what some anonymous poster calls me ?
I have a family that I care for.

I have a business that I run
i have a very active social life that I’m engaged with
I have charitable interests that I support
I have a golf game that requires more attention with each passing day

TIME is very precious to me.

You can never recapture time that has been wasted, ergo I’m not going to waste time coddling imbeciles ! 😜

With due respect, you are not contributing to the discourse and discussion on this board when you are continually calling other people names. I frequently don't pay much attention to what you say because I must first navigate all the insults you like to toss around. I expect there are many others here who feel the same way. While your friends may consider it a "term of endearment" to be called a moron, I imagine many others don't share that sentiment. And there is a huge difference between poking a friend with an insult or two and doing the same to a poster you don't know and have never met. While the former may consider it a form of jocularity, I doubt the latter feel the same way. Tossing around barbs and insults over the anonymity of an internet message board unfortunately seems de rigueur these days, but that same conduct exercised in a face to face meeting is likely to get you punched in the nose.

From time to time you actually have some interesting things to say, and I have enjoyed some of your perspectives as a long time alumnus. Too often, however, I just wish you would tone down the volume and rhethoric.

Just my unsolicited two cents.
 
With due respect, you are not contributing to the discourse and discussion on this board when you are continually calling other people names. I frequently don't pay much attention to what you say because I must first navigate all the insults you like to toss around. I expect there are many others here who feel the same way. While your friends may consider it a "term of endearment" to be called a moron, I imagine many others don't share that sentiment. And there is a huge difference between poking a friend with an insult or two and doing the same to a poster you don't know and have never met. While the former may consider it a form of jocularity, I doubt the latter feel the same way. Tossing around barbs and insults over the anonymity of an internet message board unfortunately seems de rigueur these days, but that same conduct exercised in a face to face meeting is likely to get you punched in the nose.

From time to time you actually have some interesting things to say, and I have enjoyed some of your perspectives as a long time alumnus. Too often, however, I just wish you would tone down the volume and rhethoric.

Just my unsolicited two cents.
Nobody listens to his crap!
 
Nobody listens to his crap!
1596: you know your one of my favs, but, as for pat, with some guys you gotta take them as they are, look for the good. Obviously, my state of being has mellowed me, for better I hope, I try to accept anyone as & who they are. I think Pat is a good guy! More so with each exchange. As for years I have known you as a real good guy! a great guy.
Lastly, most important, no one gives a rats ass what I think!
 
With due respect, you are not contributing to the discourse and discussion on this board when you are continually calling other people names. I frequently don't pay much attention to what you say because I must first navigate all the insults you like to toss around. I expect there are many others here who feel the same way. While your friends may consider it a "term of endearment" to be called a moron, I imagine many others don't share that sentiment. And there is a huge difference between poking a friend with an insult or two and doing the same to a poster you don't know and have never met. While the former may consider it a form of jocularity, I doubt the latter feel the same way. Tossing around barbs and insults over the anonymity of an internet message board unfortunately seems de rigueur these days, but that same conduct exercised in a face to face meeting is likely to get you punched in the nose.

From time to time you actually have some interesting things to say, and I have enjoyed some of your perspectives as a long time alumnus. Too often, however, I just wish you would tone down the volume and rhethoric.

Just my unsolicited two cents.
In a good number of the exchanges I’m not the one who hurls the first insult, often I just respond in kind, but I’ve never read one of your posts where you admonished any of the others. Why is that ?
 
In a good number of the exchanges I’m not the one who hurls the first insult, often I just respond in kind, but I’ve never read one of your posts where you admonished any of the others. Why is that ?

Because you are an ND alum. I expect more from you, and I hold you to a higher standard. While sometimes the insults may be well deserved, I only suggest there are times to simply ignore them rather than playing the serve and volley game with them.
 
Because you are an ND alum. I expect more from you, and I hold you to a higher standard. While sometimes the insults may be well deserved, I only suggest there are times to simply ignore them rather than playing the serve and volley game with them.
But I so enjoy the serve and volley game ! 😜
 
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