Bowl Options?

[MTIrish98]

I won't pretend to know all of the options out there, but it seems like the likelihood of a short list is taking shape:

11-1 = either semi-final game, Fiesta or Peach Bowl
10-2 = likely Fiesta or Peach Bowl, possibly Russell Athletic Bowl if the committee hoses ND
9-3 = Russell Athletic Bowl
8-4 is the only scenario where it gets weird.

 

[SALittleGiant513]

Depending on who the second loss would be to I think 10-2 = Russell Athletic Bowl
9-3 = Citrus Bowl/Maybe Russell but that would require and ACC team to not be 10-2 or better and left out of the top 6 games, (FSU/Clemson loser if they don't make the big bowls would be the threat)
8-4 = Tax Slayer/Music City

 

[DieHard_Irish]

Much as I hate to say it, I don't see a path to the playoffs at 11 - 1, unless a whole lot changes; so I am hoping for Fiesta or Peach

 

[TurnoverMachine]

Depending on who the second loss would be to I think 10-2 = Russell Athletic Bowl
9-3 = Citrus Bowl/Maybe Russell but that would require and ACC team to not be 10-2 or better and left out of the top 6 games, (FSU/Clemson loser if they don't make the big bowls would be the threat)
8-4 = Tax Slayer/Music City

10-2 = Russell Athletic Bowl
9-3 = potential Peach Bowl?

The Peach Bowl is in the Big6 and is a better bowl game than the Russell. Your breakdown makes no sense.

 

[SALittleGiant513]

The peach and the citrus are two different bowls

 

[IrishMike409]

I'd rather bank on 11-1.

Playoff or major Bowl Game.

 

[IRISH_FRIAR]

Fiesta Bowl Notre Dame vs. Iowa

 

[Pazuzu]

Anything but the Champs or Pinstripe Bowls. They must be tired of us by now.

 

[Nocalirish]

Useless to speculate now.

 

[SALittleGiant513]

Shut. It. Down. No speculating allowed

 

[irishnumberone1]

If Irish is 11-1 and not make to the playoff then Irish will go 6 different Bowls. I think will be Fiesta Bowl.
If Clemson lost one and will face Irish on Fiesta Bowl?

 

[SALittleGiant513]

Dude no speculating

 

[NDSMC78]

If Irish is 11-1 and not make to the playoff then Irish will go 6 different Bowls. I think will be Fiesta Bowl.
If Clemson lost one and will face Irish on Fiesta Bowl?

Wow, December and January will be quite the busy months for our Irish.

 

[Pazuzu]

Wow, December and January will be quite the busy months for our Irish.

LOL.

 

[HRC08]

11-1 and nothing to show for it. Once this happens a 2nd time, I think ND will join the ACC. A rematch on a neutral field against Clemson would look good right about now. As it stands, a two point loss in the middle of a hurricane is going to keep the Irish out of the play offs. That and ND's refusal to join a conference.

 

[Pazuzu]

11-1 and nothing to show for it. Once this happens a 2nd time, I think ND will join the ACC. A rematch on a neutral field against Clemson would look good right about now. As it stands, a two point loss in the middle of a hurricane is going to keep the Irish out of the play offs. That and ND's refusal to join a conference.

Yup.

 

[SALittleGiant513]

and 4-5 other teams with 1 or less losses that are ranked higher.

 

[Pazuzu]

and 4-5 other teams with 1 or less losses that are ranked higher.

Sal, I think you know where he is going with that post. An extra game in a Conference Championship could offset that loss, especially a rematch against Clemson.

 

[Nocalirish]

11-1 and nothing to show for it. Once this happens a 2nd time, I think ND will join the ACC. A rematch on a neutral field against Clemson would look good right about now. As it stands, a two point loss in the middle of a hurricane is going to keep the Irish out of the play offs. That and ND's refusal to join a conference.

Stuck in a division with NC, NCST, DUKE, WAKE, VIRG, and VIRG TECH on the same schedule every year is a great idea. Moronic.

 

[Pazuzu]

Stuck in a division with NC, NCST, DUKE, WAKE, VIRG, and VIRG TECH on the same schedule every year is a great idea. Moronic.

Why? Don't forget Clemson and FSU.

 

[zuskie]

Much as I hate to say it, I don't see a path to the playoffs at 11 - 1, unless a whole lot changes; so I am hoping for Fiesta or Peach

There are 6ish games remaining for most team. I think we can bank on a whole lot changing...it always does. Whether that works out for ND or not...none of us can say at this point.

 

[Pazuzu]

There are 6ish games remaining for most team. I think we can bank on a whole lot changing...it always does. Whether that works out for ND or not...none of us can say at this point.

Yup. Anything can happen but the odds are very long

 

[HRC08]

Stuck in a division with NC, NCST, DUKE, WAKE, VIRG, and VIRG TECH on the same schedule every year is a great idea. Moronic.

What conference would you like to join? Or are you advocating doing nothing and risking another 11-1 season resulting in ND being on the outside looking in?

 

[Bodizephax]

According to my math (I believe in the Chaos theory and Chaos in college football) Notre Dame will definitely make the playoff if they win out and go 11 and 1.
I doodled a little algorithm while I was watching the Memphis Tulsa game and plugged in my college football teams wins losses and stats and injury charts yada yada yada (I don't want to bore you all) and I came out with a 11 and 1 Irish team making the playoff at a 99.8 percentile. Just win baby !!! 13 and 1 !!!

 

[cgvr]

According to my math (I believe in the Chaos theory and Chaos in college football) Notre Dame will definitely make the playoff if they win out and go 11 and 1.
I doodled a little algorithm while I was watching the Memphis Tulsa game and plugged in my college football teams wins losses and stats and injury charts yada yada yada (I don't want to bore you all) and I came out with a 11 and 1 Irish team making the playoff at a 99.8 percentile. Just win baby !!! 13 and 1 !!!

Irishnumberone1 ran the equation and came up with:

"If Irish is 11-1 and not make to the playoff then Irish will go 6 different Bowls"

Your algorithm may be missing 1/6 factor... I have a call into Stephen Hawking......

 

[Nocalirish]

What conference would you like to join? Or are you advocating doing nothing and risking another 11-1 season resulting in ND being on the outside looking in?

ND should never join a conf. It is an idiotic thought for losers that dont understand the national exposure ND gets by NOT being in a conf.

 

[echowaker]

11-1 and nothing to show for it. Once this happens a 2nd time, I think ND will join the ACC. A rematch on a neutral field against Clemson would look good right about now. As it stands, a two point loss in the middle of a hurricane is going to keep the Irish out of the play offs. That and ND's refusal to join a conference.

way, way too early to say that. the natural attrition of teams ahead of nd started last week and its far from over.

 

[echowaker]

Yup. Anything can happen but the odds are very long

hardly. happens every year. nd is about where ohio st was at this time last year. finish strong and you are right smack dab in the middle of it.

 

[twalsh]

Why? Don't forget Clemson and FSU.

Nobody knows where we'd be within the ACC, and who we would play every year, versus occasionally.

 

[Weisnheimer]

Thanks to Temple, Pitt, and Stanford; ND still has a shot at the playoffs. Temple could finish the season 11-1, Pitt 10-2, and Stanford 10-2. Texas could use it's win over Oklahoma to propel them to an 8-4 or 7-5 season. My gut still says it will be difficult for an 11-1 ND to earn a playoff spot over a 12-1 conference champion. ND fans and administration need that question answered moving forward in the new era of college football.

Ara you are getting into the Bodi stratosphere with those projections. If ND wins out, their strength of schedule will be very hard to ignore. I think:

Temple...10-2
Stanford...11-2
Pitt...8-4
Navy...10-2
Wake...4-8
Va...4-8 maybe 5-7
Mass...1-2 wins, ...2-10
Texas...4-5 wins....5-7
BC....5-7 to 6-6
Ga Tech...5-7 to 6-6
Clem....11-1

79-56 That's nearly a .600 win%

If Clemson beats Fla St (an upset imo) they only need to face basketball powers NC, Duke, or Pitt to win their football conf. championship.

In effect, ND can boast playing many teams that play in that conf. championship. Pretty good possibility of:

1. ACC...Clemson/Pitt
2. Temple may play Navy (AAC) in their conf. championship (however, Memphis and Lynch are too good imo and Houston is there)...but...
3. PAC12...Stanford will be conf. champion (imo).
4. Then you have Texas beating (#6 at the time) Oklahoma.
5. What if today, Ga Tech beats Fla St in their home game (today)? Then Fla St goes to Clemson later, and wins?


We all know and have stated a 2-pt loss, away game, to a current rank #6 team, in a hurricane, dropped 2-pt conversion yada yada. No one mentions that Clemson also had a bye week to prepare for the Irish.

A 1-loss ND SOS looks pretty strong. Close to .600 winning percentage. And they (ND) played 5 teams involved in a conf. championship? And the stated above (wish scenario #s 2 and 5) happen?

If it does all happen, I think they're in.

1. Baylor
2. Ohio St (by default of being defending champs albeit, undefeated and weak SOS)
3. LSU
4. ND

As frustrating as it is hard to believe (with the perception, and real perception that the ACC is weak) it will be the ACC champ that could keep ND from the playoffs. Even though in '93 when ND beat Fla St, H2H, they awarded good ol bobby bowden the championship. I hope they make that mistake again.

Fla St was in over their head last year (as Oregon proved, as well as ND and that bs call) and would be again if they were to get in. Their SOS has to be as weak as OSU's.

In fact, looking at that, how many times will they screw ND in favor of the beloved Fla St?

 

[HRC08]

way, way too early to say that. the natural attrition of teams ahead of nd started last week and its far from over.

Dude? You of all people should see the writing on the wall: The committee will give the conferences the benefit of the doubt. Same as the coaches and writers do each week when they vote. #Conferencepride #Regionpride

ND will join a conference once they get left out 2, 3 or 4 times after going 11-1.

 

[HRC08]

ND should never join a conf. It is an idiotic thought for losers that dont understand the national exposure ND gets by NOT being in a conf.

ND gets national exposure because they're on national TV each and every week. ND will still have 4 games a year to travel all of the US. The sky won't fall when UND joins the ACC.

 

[HRC08]

Ara you are getting into the Bodi stratosphere with those projections. If ND wins out, their strength of schedule will be very hard to ignore. I think:

Temple...10-2
Stanford...11-2
Pitt...8-4
Navy...10-2
Wake...4-8
Va...4-8 maybe 5-7
Mass...1-2 wins, ...2-10
Texas...4-5 wins....5-7
BC....5-7 to 6-6
Ga Tech...5-7 to 6-6
Clem....11-1

79-56 That's nearly a .600 win%

If Clemson beats Fla St (an upset imo) they only need to face basketball powers NC, Duke, or Pitt to win their football conf. championship.

In effect, ND can boast playing many teams that play in that conf. championship. Pretty good possibility of:

1. ACC...Clemson/Pitt
2. Temple may play Navy (AAC) in their conf. championship (however, Memphis and Lynch are too good imo and Houston is there)...but...
3. PAC12...Stanford will be conf. champion (imo).
4. Then you have Texas beating (#6 at the time) Oklahoma.
5. What if today, Ga Tech beats Fla St in their home game (today)? Then Fla St goes to Clemson later, and wins?


We all know and have stated a 2-pt loss, away game, to a current rank #6 team, in a hurricane, dropped 2-pt conversion yada yada. No one mentions that Clemson also had a bye week to prepare for the Irish.

A 1-loss ND SOS looks pretty strong. Close to .600 winning percentage. And they (ND) played 5 teams involved in a conf. championship? And the stated above (wish scenario #s 2 and 5) happen?

If it does all happen, I think they're in.

1. Baylor
2. Ohio St (by default of being defending champs albeit, undefeated and weak SOS)
3. LSU
4. ND

As frustrating as it is hard to believe (with the perception, and real perception that the ACC is weak) it will be the ACC champ that could keep ND from the playoffs. Even though in '93 when ND beat Fla St, H2H, they awarded good ol bobby bowden the championship. I hope they make that mistake again.

Fla St was in over their head last year (as Oregon proved, as well as ND and that bs call) and would be again if they were to get in. Their SOS has to be as weak as OSU's.

In fact, looking at that, how many times will they screw ND in favor of the beloved Fla St?

It probably won't matter. 4 conferences will likely have 1 loss teams and thus, ND can "go pound sand."

 

[Weisnheimer]

It probably won't matter. 4 conferences will likely have 1 loss teams and thus, ND can "go pound sand."

I would love if they all had 1-loss. Then SOS would be in NDs favor come end of season. Rece Davis said this morning that Ga Tech opponent record is combined 27-4. That's brutal. If they can stay strong mentally, Fla St may just be the game that turns them around. Big if.

 

[perseverare]

Surprised that there is less recognition of the power of the SEC influence.
If Bama beats LSU in classic close brutal battle decided at the end and both are then 1 loss teams - Bama wins the SEC then I think both are ahead of ND. ND needs LSU to win out! Utah, Clemson and FSU need a loss.
Of course either TCU or Baylor gets eliminated in the head to head.
And if ND eliminates Stanford, there is a shot.

You guys that think 11-1 is an auto birth are going on 'want' than considering all the things possible. It is not clear cut for ND or any other team as stands. But the ND road is a bumpy one.

 

[cgvr]

Surprised that there is less recognition of the power of the SEC influence.
If Bama beats LSU in classic close brutal battle decided at the end and both are then 1 loss teams - Bama wins the SEC then I think both are ahead of ND. ND needs LSU to win out! Utah, Clemson and FSU need a loss.
Of course either TCU or Baylor gets eliminated in the head to head.
And if ND eliminates Stanford, there is a shot.

You guys that think 11-1 is an auto birth are going on 'want' than considering all the things possible. It is not clear cut for ND or any other team as stands. But the ND road is a bumpy one.

We have to take care of business week to week and get a TON of help. Our starting roster took major hits at qb/rb and may have improved.... Prosise has to stay healthy and this week off will help him heal up...... I think he was having a shoulder issue..... We need to start destroying squads and get Wimbush on the field as much as possible....... temple would be a good start..... We better not come out slow......

 

[HRC08]

Surprised that there is less recognition of the power of the SEC influence.
If Bama beats LSU in classic close brutal battle decided at the end and both are then 1 loss teams - Bama wins the SEC then I think both are ahead of ND. ND needs LSU to win out! Utah, Clemson and FSU need a loss.
Of course either TCU or Baylor gets eliminated in the head to head.
And if ND eliminates Stanford, there is a shot.

You guys that think 11-1 is an auto birth are going on 'want' than considering all the things possible. It is not clear cut for ND or any other team as stands. But the ND road is a bumpy one.

Very bumpy.

 

[irishnumberone1]

If ND current AD is leave UND then new AD will say yes for ND football move to join ACC. ND president was told up to ND AD to decide.

 

[echowaker]

Dude? You of all people should see the writing on the wall: The committee will give the conferences the benefit of the doubt. Same as the coaches and writers do each week when they vote. #Conferencepride #Regionpride

ND will join a conference once they get left out 2, 3 or 4 times after going 11-1.

I don't disagree that nd will be in a conference in the near future. as far as this season goes nd will be in a good spot if they run the table. it all depends on how and more importantly when others lose.

 

[artemis gordon]

According to my math (I believe in the Chaos theory and Chaos in college football) Notre Dame will definitely make the playoff if they win out and go 11 and 1.
I doodled a little algorithm while I was watching the Memphis Tulsa game and plugged in my college football teams wins losses and stats and injury charts yada yada yada (I don't want to bore you all) and I came out with a 11 and 1 Irish team making the playoff at a 99.8 percentile. Just win baby !!! 13 and 1 !!!

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