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ThunderStorm21

Shakes Down The Thunder
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moving forward is by far our defense. Look at the numbers fairly far down in the majority of categories. If we want to take the next step this defense has to get much better and stop giving up huge plays.
 
based on ? have you been to EVERY practice ? the idiocy continues from those who think they know best.
I like Joe, love his story but do we really need to be a practice? Just re-watch the games echo. It's funny the coaching staff harps on Jaylon to make everyone better around him, but they have a guy with a C on his chest they don't get on. Give Nyles Morgan some PT and let Jaylon coach him up.
 
The lack of overall football knowledge coupled with the propensity to offer idiotic opinions here is astounding.

JS is playing because the coaches think he gives ND the best chance to win. There are more athletic and gifted players behind him, but he is a team leader and his success is measured by far more than tackles made.

The fact that many here attack Kelly when you have never been on a football team or dealt with the dynamic of team building is amazingly dumb!
 
The lack of overall football knowledge coupled with the propensity to offer idiotic opinions here is astounding.

JS is playing because the coaches think he gives ND the best chance to win. There are more athletic and gifted players behind him, but he is a team leader and his success is measured by far more than tackles made.

The fact that many here attack Kelly when you have never been on a football team or dealt with the dynamic of team building is amazingly dumb!
When Malik went down what happened? DK stepped in when given the chance and the offense has barely missed a beat.
 
If you think the offense " has not missed a beat", you have not been watching.

DK has been above average, but the playbook was scaled down and altered and the offense has struggled through much of the year. The "team" has done well in the adaptation of a host of changes as good teams react and good coaching makes it easier.
 
Putting Joe Schmitt on the bench would be a good start.
What other suggestions you have because Joe is not sitting, and deservedly so.

My opinion is that how about we spend more time on tackling. As a whole. Day can have a break here because he is the only player of 11 that consistently tackles correctly.

And when we see an elite RB who runs very hard it will decimate our defense.

It seems Temple might be the only team in the land being taught how to tackle.
 
Missed tackles, bad angles, not doing your own job, missed assignments, giving up the big play. Those are BKs words. Not mine. He also said that he has to work with the players he has. BK said that he can't trade them or cut them. Again, his words, not mine. I watched on the ND Showtime series as BK told KR to start turning on the ball or he is going to sit. I saw BVG berate Nicky Baratti for a poor attempt on a TD saving tackle. So, the coaches are coaching. The players either have the ability or they don't. At some point, it is up to them to produce.
 
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How many point did Temple give up to SMU last night?

::shakes my head::
I figured someone might bring up the SMU game. Just didn't think it would be a few minutes.

One game.....temple probably still a bit hungover from the loss to Notre Dame was not at its best. When the gun sounded they still did win by 20 points no?
Why does a 20-0 game game seem to a ton people like a lopsided affair?

But a 60-40 game is really close.

o_O
 
based on ? have you been to EVERY practice ? the idiocy continues from those who think they know best.
Please stop with all this BS about "how much film do you watch, and how many practices are you there for". Just watch the damn game and look at how he plays. You don't have to be a genius to figure out that he can't tackle, too slow to the ball, gets blocked backwards consistently, and can't cover a receiver when he is supposed to. Obviously you have no clue, oh thats right you must be Joes daddy or brother. If he is in there for Stanford, they will pound the ball right at him at 7-10 yards a pop as he is 15 yards being blocked down field. Oh thats right it must be his assignment as you wanna be coaches keep preaching he's doing his job. Last time I heard an inside linebacker isn't supposed to take on a block and get pushed back so the safety or CB can make the tackle. Idiots.....
 
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The lack of overall football knowledge coupled with the propensity to offer idiotic opinions here is astounding.

JS is playing because the coaches think he gives ND the best chance to win. There are more athletic and gifted players behind him, but he is a team leader and his success is measured by far more than tackles made.

The fact that many here attack Kelly when you have never been on a football team or dealt with the dynamic of team building is amazingly dumb!
Another idiot to add to the mix.
 
based on ? have you been to EVERY practice ? the idiocy continues from those who think they know best.

"Based on?" He is, without a doubt, the least productive player on the field. Continually out of position, missing tackles at a staggering number and it's rare today that he can even make a play when in a position to do so. Just bad! Last year, completely different. Very productive and held the team's cohesion. This year terrible. Aside from Smith, just what have the linebackers accomplished? Very disappointing and troubling going forward.
 
The defensive backs need to play their assignments instead of being faked out. Way to many blown assignments that result in touchdowns and BIG plays.

DB's - backs always to the QB, why? Anyone watch Alabama and Clemson? The DB's, particularly safeties, attack and fill gaps all game on running plays. The ND secondary is continually out of position and rarely attacks and tackles well.
 
I think the defense has played pretty solid to this point. They only allowed 30 like twice, but the safeties just really don't seem to get lined up in the right spots all the time. They also seem to miss assignments way to often like on the Tyler Boyd TD catch, ofcourse KR could have made an attempt to try stop the play instead of complaining about the safety not being in the right spot. Joe S. is very similar to Tommy Rees where his intangibles and football IQ are off the charts, but he lacks the physical traits to consistently compete at a high level. Morgan must still not have fully grasped the defensive playbook yet. ND might need to get an exclusive linebacker coach to work the linebackers only. Cause Sanford hire has done wonders for the quarterbacks, maybe the same thing could be done for the linebackers.
 
Please stop with all this BS about "how much film do you watch, and how many practices are you there for". Just watch the damn game and look at how he plays. You don't have to be a genius to figure out that he can't tackle, too slow to the ball, gets blocked backwards consistently, and can't cover a receiver when he is supposed to. Obviously you have no clue, oh thats right you must be Joes daddy or brother. If he is in there for Stanford, they will pound the ball right at him at 7-10 yards a pop as he is 15 yards being blocked down field. Oh thats right it must be his assignment as you wanna be coaches keep preaching he's doing his job. Last time I heard an inside linebacker isn't supposed to take on a block and get pushed back so the safety or CB can make the tackle. Idiots.....
again what information do you have at your disposal to determine which players should be playing ? this is the coaches livelihoods at stake. they are best equipped to make those decisions than anyone here. just because you don't agree, that doesn't make you right. an 8-1 record indicates to me that the coaching staff has a pretty good idea of what should happen personnel wise.
 
I think the defense has played pretty solid to this point. They only allowed 30 like twice, but the safeties just really don't seem to get lined up in the right spots all the time. They also seem to miss assignments way to often like on the Tyler Boyd TD catch, ofcourse KR could have made an attempt to try stop the play instead of complaining about the safety not being in the right spot. Joe S. is very similar to Tommy Rees where his intangibles and football IQ are off the charts, but he lacks the physical traits to consistently compete at a high level. Morgan must still not have fully grasped the defensive playbook yet. ND might need to get an exclusive linebacker coach to work the linebackers only. Cause Sanford hire has done wonders for the quarterbacks, maybe the same thing could be done for the linebackers.
you miss the point. it appeared Russell was doing his job and in his area. I was at the game. vangorder was all over redfield when he came to the sideline. it certainly seemed like he was the one in error. a player must execute his responsibility. it's the ultimate team game. free lancing gets you beat.
 
And you can make a legit argument that the 1 loss is because of Joe Schmidt. He was exposed on the first drive at Clemson and missed a huge tackle on Galman that led to a FG in the 2nd half. I can't think of one big play JS's has made in 2015. I liked him in 2014 but he's not the same player this year and he's hurting the defense.
 
And you can make a legit argument that the 1 loss is because of Joe Schmidt. He was exposed on the first drive at Clemson and missed a huge tackle on Galman that led to a FG in the 2nd half. I can't think of one big play JS's has made in 2015. I liked him in 2014 but he's not the same player this year and he's hurting the defense.
this post indicates a true lack of understanding of the game. numerous dropped passes and four turnovers no factor in your uneducated football mind ?
 
And you can make a legit argument that the 1 loss is because of Joe Schmidt. He was exposed on the first drive at Clemson and missed a huge tackle on Galman that led to a FG in the 2nd half. I can't think of one big play JS's has made in 2015. I liked him in 2014 but he's not the same player this year and he's hurting the defense.
I just read your post again. it was more stupid than the first time I read it.
 
I like Joe, love his story but do we really need to be a practice? Just re-watch the games echo. It's funny the coaching staff harps on Jaylon to make everyone better around him, but they have a guy with a C on his chest they don't get on. Give Nyles Morgan some PT and let Jaylon coach him up.
It makes no freaking sense I half want Jaylon to turn to VanGorder and say "dude I can't make him more athletic, I can't make him faster, I can't make him stronger, I can't make him any better!"
 
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And you can make a legit argument that the 1 loss is because of Joe Schmidt. He was exposed on the first drive at Clemson and missed a huge tackle on Galman that led to a FG in the 2nd half. I can't think of one big play JS's has made in 2015. I liked him in 2014 but he's not the same player this year and he's hurting the defense.
so it's okay for you to single out two plays in the course of an entire game and to conveniently omit all the dropped passes and turnovers by notre dame. it's all on poor joe.
 
It makes no freaking sense I have one Jaylin to turn to VanGorder and say "dude I can't make him more athletic, I can't make him faster, I can't make him stronger, I can't make him any better!"
more evidence of an uneducated football mind.
 
And you can make a legit argument that the 1 loss is because of Joe Schmidt. He was exposed on the first drive at Clemson and missed a huge tackle on Galman that led to a FG in the 2nd half. I can't think of one big play JS's has made in 2015. I liked him in 2014 but he's not the same player this year and he's hurting the defense.
How ridiculous. You think 4 turnovers and several dropped balls is why we are 8 - 1. Ridiculous
 
this post indicates a true lack of understanding of the game. numerous dropped passes and four turnovers no factor in your uneducated football mind ?
Keep the insults coming. They only show that you have nothing to defend your position.
 
more evidence of an uneducated football mind.
No, I understand what Van Gorder is saying. Teach the others what you (Jaylon) are seeing out there. But Schmidt's issue isn't play recognition. It's athleticism once he arrives. Jaylon and all the Kings Men can't change that.
 
How ridiculous. You think 4 turnovers and several dropped balls is why we are 8 - 1. Ridiculous
Of course that had the most to do with it but Schmidt was exposed as well. The difference is the offense hasn't had another terrible game but Schmidt has. He's not the reason ND's won but he did contribute to that loss.
 
Keep the insults coming. They only show that you have nothing to defend your position.
what insults ? your posts are crystal clear. they clearly show a lack of understanding of the game. I'm sorry if you take it personal. what position am I not defending ? I believe the coaching staff knows best when it comes to personnel decisions. I think that that blaming notre dames loss to Clemson solely on two bad plays by joe Schmidt is not only short sighted but stupid. I have an extensive football background and am pretty confident in my understanding of the game and how programs operate.
 
No, I understand what Van Gorder is saying. Teach the others what you (Jaylon) are seeing out there. But Schmidt's issue isn't play recognition. It's athleticism once he arrives. Jaylon and all the Kings Men can't change that.
no one here thinks Schmidt is luke kuechly. I firmly believe the coaches are BEST suited to make personnel decisions.
 
The lack of overall football knowledge coupled with the propensity to offer idiotic opinions here is astounding.

JS is playing because the coaches think he gives ND the best chance to win. There are more athletic and gifted players behind him, but he is a team leader and his success is measured by far more than tackles made.

The fact that many here attack Kelly when you have never been on a football team or dealt with the dynamic of team building is amazingly dumb!
Look, it doesn't matter if you've been on a team or not. We're allowed to have an opinion and the fact that we've been fans and watched a ton of football qualifies any of us enough to have an opinion and see when guys aren't playing well. That doesn't mean we know more than bk or think he's doing a bad job.

Having said that, I played college ball (D3), but that doesn't make me any more qualified. In any case we all know JS isn't the same guy as he'd been. I actually think he played pretty well yesterday and will against these mediocre pro style teams through to Stanford. I think it's fair to wonder once we get into a big bowl against a stud team, if JS is going to be a concern if he still hasn't shaped into last years form.

Further if you need more qualified opinions on JS from coaches of or guys with qualifications in the sport, Coach D has been saying JS isn't the same, and the one foot down website has done film analysis on JS too pointing out he is missing a lot of tackles due to being out of position because his lateral movement isn't back.

People need to stop saying this crap that we can't make this observation as it implies we know more than coaches. Just stop.
 
I will say this on the blown coverage by Redfield though. KV complaining and stopping completely on the play and sticking up his hands as the play is still happening is unacceptable in my opinion. Seemed like an immature move on the ball field....it did look as if it was Redfields mistake but that doesn't mean you just let the man score. The ball was lobbed and could have very easily been a ball that KV could have made a play on had he not started whining before the pass even left the QBs hands.
 
What does 8-1 have to do with Joe S.? You are a complete moron. Thats like saying the Denver Bronkos are 7-0 because of CJ Anderson.
obviously went over your head. the point is notre dame is 8-1 despite all the incessant whining about joe Schmidt . again coaches are the best judges of personnel decisions. if you think you know better by watching on tv then good for you.
 
I will say this on the blown coverage by Redfield though. KV complaining and stopping completely on the play and sticking up his hands as the play is still happening is unacceptable in my opinion. Seemed like an immature move on the ball field....it did look as if it was Redfields mistake but that doesn't mean you just let the man score. The ball was lobbed and could have very easily been a ball that KV could have made a play on had he not started whining before the pass even left the QBs hands.
Agree completely. You can't do that. A blown play is a mistake, stopping on the play to make sure the world knows it wasn't your fault is just being a sh*thead. I like Russell but that was a bush league move.
 
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