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Best LB group in ND history

Bowen had a bust on the TD pass. Warren will be a nightmare.
Yes, the biggest bust ND had on defense yesterday was the wheel route to Jones for the TD. PSU runs more wheel concepts than anyone I have watched in recent memory. Andy K’s offense is way too cute and gadgety for my taste, but finding and exploiting matchups against LBs and safeties is one of the his staples. ND’s aggressiveness and man/cover 1 base is probably the exact matchup they are looking to go against from a scheme perspective. Allar’s ability to scramble and improvise is something to watch as well with all the man coverage Golden runs.
 
Good post. Love the depth and heart. We do lose our two QBs in Kiser and Watts next year. But Bowen and Shuler look ready to step up.

LBs will be tested in the next game!
 
Nasty,
Plenty of time between now and the Penn St game to fret over matchups and schemes. Today we celebrate a great Irish victory and the outstanding play of our defense and special teams. We will need to be better against PSU in several areas, but linebacker play is among my least concerns.
Nope. 24 hour rule isn't in play here since the game got delayed 19 hours ha. Celebration was for last night, back to work analyzing next opponent today! :)
 
Bowen had a bust on the TD pass. Warren will be a nightmare.
We were lazy in coverage at times against their TEs, and georgia really does have a good group. Warren if you don't lose him shouldn't get much YAC, he just makes tough catches. But PSU constantly tries to scheme him to get him open in space and their RBs. They really believe in passes to their rbs, warren, and a few deep shots (to evans).
 
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Yes, the biggest bust ND had on defense yesterday was the wheel route to Jones for the TD. PSU runs more wheel concepts than anyone I have watched in recent memory. Andy K’s offense is way too cute and gadgety for my taste, but finding and exploiting matchups against LBs and safeties is one of the his staples. ND’s aggressiveness and man/cover 1 base is probably the exact matchup they are looking to go against from a scheme perspective. Allar’s ability to scramble and improvise is something to watch as well with all the man coverage Golden runs.
we did a lot of spying on stockton and the rbs well at times last night. We had one really bad series with like 3 or 4 busted plays. No clue what was going on. Georgia didn't do anything fancy.

But yes, our Lbs will have to cover swing passes really well
 
We were lazy in coverage at times against their TEs, and georgia really does have a good group. Warren if you don't lose him shouldn't get much YAC, he just makes tough catches. But PSU constantly tries to scheme him to get him open in space and their RBs. They really believe in passes to their rbs, warren, and a few deep shots (to evans).
Evans being isolated on Gray is a big concern of mine. Allar has a strong enough arm to make deep throws to the wide side of the field and take advantage of Evans matching up with Gray or a slot defender in space.
 
Evans being isolated on Gray is a big concern of mine. Allar has a strong enough arm to make deep throws to the wide side of the field and take advantage of Evans matching up with Gray or a slot defender in space.
Pressure,pressure,pressure.
 
Evans being isolated on Gray is a big concern of mine. Allar has a strong enough arm to make deep throws to the wide side of the field and take advantage of Evans matching up with Gray or a slot defender in space.
evans isn't a good route runner, or getting off press, so he does most of his damage from the slot. But yeah, you can guarantee a shot or two deep to him. Allar throws a very high deep ball, hopefully it gives our safeties time. The big play vs boise was a bust by boise.
 
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I’ve hesitated to go there because Stams, Bolcar, Pritchett, and Stonebreaker in 88 were a force week after week against a brutal schedule. I’ve been impressed by this groups speed all year but wondered if they might get bludgeoned by better competition.

They are the real deal. I am convinced
88 was the only team I could think of at the same level. I dont know if 24 is better than 88, but they are not worse.....
 
JOK replaces someone (probably Kiser). I just watched some more of this game and Drayk Bowen is not coming off the field, the kid is special.
I just laughed when one GA player got in Bowens face after his tackle, then an OL said something to Drayk. Bowen is from Gary Andrean, nothing will faze him!
 
Comparing players from different eras is really challenging and calling this the best LB group in ND history is recency bias. This group is young, playing at a high level and certainly could eventually end up near the top of my personal list. But, in my time as a fan (Holtz era forward) nothing tops the LB group on the ‘88 squad. Stonebreaker and Stams were absolute game-wreckers! Bolcar and Pritchett were studs and centrally cast for their positions in that era. It isn’t fair to compare this group to anyone historically at such early stages of their playing careers IMHO.


Such hypotheticals are fun. But I agree you really cannot compare eras. The only thing I will say with some conviction...in the modern era you minimally have to be a top athlete. Back in the day, you could compensate for some lack of speed, agility, and strength with sports IQ and team schema.

Some argue what if players back then had modern sport science. Yes, the top athletes would realize gains. But not the marginal athletes.

One more point: not every top player today would hang in the conditions of yesteryear. Some top players today are more athletic due to sports science they wouldn't have back then. I also think the game meted out more punishment back then, where some today wouldn't hang.

If you magically transported a peak 1970 vs peak 2024 team, the latter would easily win. But if you transport each to the era of the other with 1 year to practice and play as the other...the verdict is out.
 
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I’ve not seen a better group of linebackers at ND. They are aggressive, fast and don’t miss many tackles. Fun to watch
Except when we were in a 5-1-5 with Bob Crable as the sole linebacker. Overall, Irish tackling has been stellar lately and has reminded me of Crable's sure tackling.
 
Best LB corp in a long time? Well sure. Best ever, no chance. Bolcar, Pritchett, and Stonebreaker in 88, along with Frank Stams, with 5 top 10 wins on the way to the Natty in 88.
 
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Best LB corp in a long time? Well sure. Best ever, no chance. Bolcar, Pritchett, and Stonebreaker in 88, along with Frank Stams, with 5 top 10 wins on the way to the Natty in 88.
Born in 1993 so didn’t get to see these guys. I read Lou Holtz’s book in reference to this season and I wish I could have seen these guys. I remember Stonebreaker being mentioned countless times.

Do you think this an all time LB core in CFB history?
 
Born in 1993 so didn’t get to see these guys. I read Lou Holtz’s book in reference to this season and I wish I could have seen these guys. I remember Stonebreaker being mentioned countless times.

Do you think this an all time LB core in CFB history?
They are definitely up there. Played a brutally hard schedule and won a natty
 
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