Auston Robertson to Sparty
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ND is trending downward with current targets.
the optimists will say that "win and they will come"
but, if ND wins - 10+ - Kelly's agent will be looking for an NFL HC shot
then ND will face another coaching turnover which will set recruiting back another year or two
or if ND goes 8-4 it will continue to recruit like an 8-4 team.
what is noticable is that there isn't that 1 guy on the staff aside from HH that resonates with prospects.
ND has 1 spring camp vs the frequent camps by it's geographical recruiting competition.
The staff cannot recruit without developing relationships. The kids need reassurance that they can succeed academically at ND; that they will get every possible kind of help.
The effort this session does not reflect any sort of long range plan for a future; The whole of the matter is '15 has to be "The Year" and, If Kelly bolts, ND needs the huge name HC to overcome the hole being dug!
the optimists will say that "win and they will come"
but, if ND wins - 10+ - Kelly's agent will be looking for an NFL HC shot
then ND will face another coaching turnover which will set recruiting back another year or two
or if ND goes 8-4 it will continue to recruit like an 8-4 team.
what is noticable is that there isn't that 1 guy on the staff aside from HH that resonates with prospects.
ND has 1 spring camp vs the frequent camps by it's geographical recruiting competition.
The staff cannot recruit without developing relationships. The kids need reassurance that they can succeed academically at ND; that they will get every possible kind of help.
The effort this session does not reflect any sort of long range plan for a future; The whole of the matter is '15 has to be "The Year" and, If Kelly bolts, ND needs the huge name HC to overcome the hole being dug!
Bodizephax
I've posted how many times?
How does Kelly let two Fort Wayne, IN prospects escape the state? One to Ohio State and one to Michigan State. You need to keep the talent in your backyard home. I think Kelly is banking on this year being the year and he's gone to greener pastures a.k.a. the NFL.
Mack doesn't like the Depth Chart at ND and seemed to be looking elsewhere the minute ND wasn't the only big school that offered him.
Robertson was never coming. Vibe was pretty clear early on ND would have been ok for him but it was not what something he was psyched about.
Robertson was never coming. Vibe was pretty clear early on ND would have been ok for him but it was not what something he was psyched about.
Mack isn't one of the top ten receivers in this class. Just because he is from Fort Wayne doesn't mean he is worth taking over other prospects. At the end of the day, ND may end up with a much better prospect. DE is a different story. ND needs to recruit better at DE.
agree, Mack is not a need nor an elite type prospect; but he is being highly recruited, has connection with other recruits and as such his lack of interest/enthusiasm for ND, probably was something he shared with other recruits.
You want them to love you even if they don't date you.
ND has to look outside the Midwest for DL help. Gilmore has a few targets he is 'all in' on. If he gets his guys then disaster averted. But flirting with disaster usually and eventually results in just that.
I see Sal responding about Day and Jones; Day (oft injured) is ideally a situational type player; Jones so far has been 'not a weak link' but certainly not dominant nor outstanding; he is stil learning. Those 2 are cited as ND big successes on the DL as reply to the notion that DL recruiting has been problematic?!
Don't forget Michigan is cleaning up also....We have to be alert this is a 5 star player...
yes mack is a good wr but not elite. we are stacked at wr so i'm guessing that being way down on the depth when he would be coming in wasn't something that excited him much. besides we seem to lead for the top 2017 TE prospect named brock wright who is from the houston texas area and seem to be in good shape with another top 2017 wr prospect from California who has a brother coming in this fall to south bend as a freshmen wr
For those that don't follow recruiting none of this is true. KK is a solid 4 star top 150 player. Sandgruff try harder.
MSU planting a flag up the recruiting backside of ND again. At least Michigan has only used a lawn dart so far.
I do not know why everyone has a meltdown if ND misses out on prospects. They're 17 year old kids! Nothing is set til signing day. Everything else is just noise. One way or another they will sign a class. We don't even know how good these kids will be. That's a fact. There are a slew of can't miss elite players that have gone to ND or shunned ND in the last 20 years that did absolutely nothing on the field. If you don't believe me go ahead and research it. Most of the great players are not 5 star or even 4 star players. ND will get their share of great players to compete. It's up to the coaches to develop them. I know you all want an Alabama type of dominance. That will not happen. What can happen is 10 win seasons on a regular basis and every 4 years have a real shot at a title. That's Do-able in my opinion. Considering how hard it is to actually go to class and play football, that is pretty darn good if they can achieve that year in and year out. There is absolutely no excuse this year. Regardless of the QB situation they have enough talent to run the table or at least make a major bowl. If they don't , I think they should start looking for the next head coach.
non of the recent recruiting losses are even remotely close to unexpected - so no meltdown here.
I was trying to alert the uninformed that they may have to tone down their usual 12-0 predictions to 11-1 for the next few years. I know foolish on my part because those predictions are just actually shoot from the hip and not based on anything resembling in depth reviews.
Meltdown is a bit strong. Disappointed would be more accurate. My overall point is that we as fans go through this recruiting frenzy as if we are the ones evaluating the players. We read this guy is a can't miss 5 star. ND needs him or else they will be lousy, so on and so on. Believe me I get the fact that in order to be great you need great players. But no one on this or any other site knows who will be a success or a bust. So instead of worrying about who isn't on board, let's focus on who is. It's still way too early in their recruiting cycle so let's hope for a great season and hopefully great players will follow.
