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Attack on Bourbon St

HarlemIrish said:
Conflicting press conference. Not a terrorist attack but the FBI taking over the investigation. Then the NOLA Chief says go out & enjoy New Orleans. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
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You must have listened through jaundiced ears! It was not that confusing for most of us.
 
Patrish said:
Warrantless wire taps and the evidence they obtain, directly or indirectly, are inadmissible in court.

Most of the weather underground attacks were done on weekends when the buildings were vacant.

None of the attacks in the 70s and 80s were directed toward the general civilian population unlike this morning’s attack, with the one exception of the Oklahoma City bombing.

I would agree with you with regard to January 6th and those being held absent charges being filed and absent due process.

There are several basic forms of terrorist attacks, those against hard targets such as buildings, those against military installations and military personnel and those against the general civilian population, with the latter usually being carried out by ideologically, driven individuals or organizations
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I agree with some of your post, and not with others but the illegal wiretaps under the Patriot Act are admissible.

And as you can see there were far more bombings at that time than now

The Patriot Act needs to be struck down, or at a minimal not renewed.
These acts are what makes the the citizenry untrusting of their own government regardless of party because both parties have used it.

And now you have the concerns of artificial intelligence in the governments, or thier proxies hand
 
deadirishpoet said:
I agree with some of your post, and not with others but the illegal wiretaps under the Patriot Act are admissible.

And as you can see there were far more bombings at that time than now

The Patriot Act needs to be struck down, or at a minimal not renewed.
These acts are what makes the the citizenry untrusting of their own government regardless of party because both parties have used it.

And now you have the concerns of artificial intelligence in the governments, or thier proxies hand
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I would agree that some of these acts need to be fine tuned and amended
 
Patrish said:
Why would you label it as a religion of peace?

Events have proven otherwise
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Just like the Catholic Church once did, Islam needs a process of exegesis. I am sure you heard that term. The Islamic world is working itself in modernity.

Obviously it is a painful and costly process. Mostly to themselves. There is massive strife in Islamic societies, costing many lives, loss of GDP, and a cycle of violence.

At such scale, it hurts the world. Even in Islamic communities in the West. This is going to be a long enough process.
 
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PHJIndy said:
You must have listened through jaundiced ears! It was not that confusing for most of us.
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No, I heard it pretty clear. The very first presser was a total mess. First the fbi agent says it’s not a terrorist attack. You’re calling me out? The Nola PC then says go out and enjoy New Orleans?
 
banmate6 said:
Just like the Catholic Church once did, Islam needs a process of exegesis. I am sure you heard that term. The Islamic world is working itself in modernity.

Obviously it is a painful and costly process. Mostly to themselves. There is massive strife in Islamic societies, costing many lives, loss of GDP, and a cycle of violence.

At such scale, it hurts the world. Even in Islamic communities in the West. This is going to be a long enough process.
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We have different views on the pace and direction that factions of Islam are moving
 
Patrish said:
We have different views on the pace and direction that factions of Islam are moving
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The difference is you seem to think Islam is monolithic and innately evil. It's not. I never sugarcoat that overall Islamic cultures have some serious issues...to the point where varied Islamic interests can coalesce and do damage at scale.

But Islam itself is as malleable to exegesis as Judaism and Christianity, its peer Abrahamic faiths, have been. Again, they're still stuck in backwardness. It's not easy to move into the future.

Today we saw it. Clearly we have a problem. But let's not lose our humanity in fighting it. Keep in mind, we were both effective yet magnanimous in victory vs the WWII Axis and former Warsaw Pact.
 
banmate6 said:
Just like the Catholic Church once did, Islam needs a process of exegesis. I am sure you heard that term. The Islamic world is working itself in modernity.

Obviously it is a painful and costly process. Mostly to themselves. There is massive strife in Islamic societies, costing many lives, loss of GDP, and a cycle of violence.

At such scale, it hurts the world. Even in Islamic communities in the West. This is going to be a long enough process.
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banmate6 said:
You’re kidding right, or do you really want to compare what happened 600 years ago with what’s happening today
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banmate6 said:
The difference is you seem to think Islam is monolithic and innately evil. It's not. I never sugarcoat that overall Islamic cultures have some serious issues...to the point where varied Islamic interests can coalesce and do damage at scale.

But Islam itself is as malleable to exegesis as Judaism and Christianity, its peer Abrahamic faiths, have been. Again, they're still stuck in backwardness. It's not easy to move into the future.

Today we saw it. Clearly we have a problem. But let's not lose our humanity in fighting it. Keep in mind, we were both effective yet magnanimous in victory vs the WWII Axis and former Warsaw Pact.
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You’re 1000% wrong in your assessment regarding what I think about Islam

To declare that Islam is a religion of peace is absurd
 
Patrish said:
You’re 1000% wrong in your assessment regarding what I think about Islam

To declare that Islam is a religion of peace is absurd
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The point I made stands: Islam is malleable to exegesis that can make it a religion of peace...as has been done with Judaism and Christianity. You essentially said it isn't, hence my response...and by implication you make it seem it is intrinsically not a religion of peace.
 
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