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[Irishjohn68]

I think Campbell gained about 120 yards in that game, but he did not score. The real story, I think, is that Texas turned the ball over way too many times, some forced, some not, to have any shot.

I thought the ND defense played great that day. ND had two backs rush for over 100 yards with my all time favorite ND player Vagas Ferguson also having 3 TD’s.

 

[Drinking The Green Koolaid]

Ed Marinaro (Cornell), Calvin Hill (Yale).

Ed Marinaro and Calvin Hill both had successful NFL careers. Calvin Hill was probably more athletic, but Marinaro was a very strong and tough inside runner. And of course Marinaro had a second career as an actor, most notably with Hill Street Blues.

I grew up as a Bears fan, so I remember another Yale graduate, Gary Fencik, who had a nice run with the Bears. Fencik played receiver at Yale, but was thought to be too slow to play that position in the NFL, so he was converted to safety. He was about to give up on the NFL and start his career in the investment banking business when he caught on with the Bears. Fencik and fellow safety Doug Plank came to be known as the "The Hit Men," and were part of the great 1985 Bears defense. Funny the twists and turns that life can take.

 

[4-4-3]

Ed Marinaro and Calvin Hill both had successful NFL careers. Calvin Hill was probably more athletic, but Marinaro was a very strong and tough inside runner. And of course Marinaro had a second career as an actor, most notably with Hill Street Blues.

I grew up as a Bears fan, so I remember another Yale graduate, Gary Fencik, who had a nice run with the Bears. Fencik played receiver at Yale, but was thought to be too slow to play that position in the NFL, so he was converted to safety. He was about to give up on the NFL and start his career in the investment banking business when he caught on with the Bears. Fencik and fellow safety Doug Plank came to be known as the "The Hit Men," and were part of the great 1985 Bears defense. Funny the twists and turns that life can take.

Marinaro was DECENT, but Hill was a two-time 1,000 yd. rusher, came close a third time, and wound up with over 6,000 yds. on the ground. As a Cowboy, he was the featured back between Duane Thomas and Tony Dorsett. Big man, hard runner.

I remember Hill well as we're both the same age.

 

[Drinking The Green Koolaid]

Marinaro was DECENT, but Hill was a two-time 1,000 yd. rusher, came close a third time, and wound up with over 6,000 yds. on the ground. As a Cowboy, he was the featured back between Duane Thomas and Tony Dorsett. Big man, hard runner.

I remember Hill well as we're both the same age.

You're right, Hill had a better NFL career than Marinaro, though Marinaro had a far better college career. Marinaro took home the Mawell Trophy in 1971 and nearly beat out Pat Sullivan for the Heisman. I was looking at Marinaro's numbers that year; Marinaro averaged almost 40 carries a game! Holy crap! You won't see that in today's game.

Duane Thomas. What an enigma he was.

 

[wicker]

I started following c. 1970 and thought Cotton Bowl vs Texas was part of the schedule. I also thought USC and Southern Cal were two different teams

 

[Irishjohn68]

Is Calvin Hill the father of former Duke star Grant Hill?

 

[4-4-3]

Is Calvin Hill the father of former Duke star Grant Hill?

Yes.

 

[4-4-3]

You're right, Hill had a better NFL career than Marinaro, though Marinaro had a far better college career. Marinaro took home the Mawell Trophy in 1971 and nearly beat out Pat Sullivan for the Heisman. I was looking at Marinaro's numbers that year; Marinaro averaged almost 40 carries a game! Holy crap! You won't see that in today's game.

Duane Thomas. What an enigma he was.

Yes, Marinaro was a gamer in the Ivy League, but I often wonder if he could have carried 40 times a game in the Big Ten. And while he was clearly better than 99% of the players he played against at Cornell, I'm not sure he'd have performed as well higher up the line. But I'm, by no means, trying to diminish his accomplishments.

Still, what I'm saying, I'd argue, is born out by the fact that in his best pro season, he gained around only 300 yards. He wasn't an IMPACT PLAYER in the NFL.