Adebo Decommits from ND
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this is the one I been posting about; TOS has had him on 'watch' for a few months. A 'fait accompli'.
I expect this is not the end.
All this is on Swarbrick - not BK! because BK s/b long gone!
this is the one I been posting about; TOS has had him on 'watch' for a few months. A 'fait accompli'.
I expect this is not the end.
All this is on Swarbrick - not BK! because BK s/b long gone!
B I N G O
Not surprised - Kelly could go 6 - 6 in 2017 and JS would see that as enough of an 'improvement' that he would keep Kelly on.
Why?
It's simple - JS has a man-crush on Kelly.
And to quote a renowned FB coach......"get used to it, because this is who we are".
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Just buy some ND merchandise, support your team and shut up.
Massive loss. Most of the best players in this class have now decommitted. Really only Ewell, Lugg, Hainsey, Kmet and Wright left as real studs.
Thia class is going to limp to the finish and will be filled oit by projects. ND is going to have to develop a lot of talent from "scratch".
How about the Osiris St. Brown / Paulson Adebo WR tandem at Stanford with Davis Mills.
Thia class is going to limp to the finish and will be filled oit by projects. ND is going to have to develop a lot of talent from "scratch".
How about the Osiris St. Brown / Paulson Adebo WR tandem at Stanford with Davis Mills.
You don't win 9 and 10 games every year unless you get good recruits. That's the issue. The easiest way to go 4-8 may be bad coaching, but it's aided by having major holes in your recruiting classes. ND had a good haul at DB last year and had a chance to follow it up with two good classes in a row. Now they'll rely on projects.
Obviously IIO. But I'm not getting caught up in recruiting coming off a bad year you and I both know this is going to be a down year. You said it yourself we had a good haul last year they should improve. We have a lot of young talent coming back and they got valuable experience last year. I'd rather the kid bail now then on NSD at least gives you a shot to get another prospect.
There were an awful lot of teams playing in BOWL games that had fewer stars than our guys. DEVELOP & WIN!!!
GET BETTER!!!
GET BETTER!!!
you only need 6 W's to get in a bowl? have we dropped winng as the objective?
ND does not have the depth of talent to beat a top tier team; that and coaching gaffaws are the reasons that ND has not beaten a Top tier team for some time.
If nothing changes, then 'get used to it'.
Now THAT s the spirit!
Despite the fact that in Kelly's 7 years at ND he has not won even 1 significant BOWL Game.....not 1.
Do you think that....if ND had their FB act together they could - in the odd year when 'Bama does not win the NC title - at least compete for the title?
But, alas - the UND seems to satisfied with merely creating the illusion of being a competitive FB program - as long as all that money keeps rolling in.
This defines my issue with ND and Kelly. Sure ND makes it impossible to compete on a consistent basis with the top teams. That said ND can easily win 9-11 games every year. Kelly has failed to do that plus he has major holes in recruiting every year.
No, we can't compete with 'Bama but we certainly can win 10 games every year.
ironic that our resident Kelly 'shill' ID 'continuously' used to post a bogus quote wherein he said I said 'Stanford reloads, ND rebuilds' and now his words have turned prophetic! Except ND is not exactly rebuilding, more a demo project under JS/BK.
CB: Adebo to Stanford.
How does ND's DB class look w/o P.A.?
CB: Adebo to Stanford.
How does ND's DB class look w/o P.A.?
"But, alas - the UND seems to satisfied with merely creating the illusion of being a competitive FB program - as long as all that money keeps rolling in."
I have said in the past that I believe ND is satisfied with the 8-10 wins a year, the occasional push toward a playoff run, and maybe a year like 2012 every 5-7 years or so.
^ I think ND has lowered that 'bar' considerably!
ND will eventually get it 'right' and move on from JS/BK. Till then get used to it' is the 'curse'.
(I do however see signs that BK's 'hold' is slipping)
ND will eventually get it 'right' and move on from JS/BK. Till then get used to it' is the 'curse'.
(I do however see signs that BK's 'hold' is slipping)
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It's not good now or at NSD. There is no chance ND will replace him with anyone as good. Best case scenario we get a "project" player currently committed to Temple or a similar type team.
Haven't had a commit in a month and the class now stands at only 16. In trouble for sure.
Oh no the sky is falling. Funny stuff! Can't wait for Temple!
JMO.... But that opinion is just as aggrevating as those who persist that ND is on its way to collapsing.
The sun will rise tomorrow over the Golden Dome, that is nearly assured. But to act like it isn't a significant issue that 4 of the 5 best defensive commitments in ND's class (Beal, Jeter, Werner, Adebo) have all decommitted for better options (at this point) is completely off base, IMO. ND has a talent issue moving forward. That may not be as important as the coaching and strength and conditioning issues, but it's a real issue none-the-less... Adebo is a fine talent, heading to a team that will play ND 4 times during his University years. That sucks.
In trouble for sure? Last I checked ND was ranked 10th. Having one de-commit doesn't drop them below 15 and that frees up a spot.
He decided to back out of his commitment, and yes it's better that he does it now. It gives ND sometime to fill the slot. It's his life and choice. I guess some think ND should shut down it's 2017 recruiting but that would be ridiculous.
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I'm surprised you didn't call him a moron.
And, really? You're going to spout off about recruiting rankings? ND is constantly hovering around the top-10 in recruiting. It means nothing. The current regime goes out and loses 4-5 games, on average, every season.
Maybe this will finally be the straw that broke the camels back for Pers. He'll become so frustrated with ND and Kelly that he'll stop posting, and focus his efforts elsewhere. That would be the silver lining in PA's decommitt.....
good grief! better? 'what me worry' ?
I'm surprised you're still posting here. And you're still stalking me, which is disturbing to say the least.
After all, End_23, you said you would NEVER be here again after ND kept Kelly.
Have you been reading the thread? Lost top 5 defensive recruits. Have a total of 4 left and after Adebo, ranked 13
Stanford: the 2 Top rated OL in the class; a Top QB, a Top TE; now ND's previously top D commit (on need/talent)
(Are you still pres. of CW's fan club?; caught your comment about post #; well 2-3000 of them are trying to talk sense into the likes of you!; and I actually 'like' you as a fan!, so I don't give up!)
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So, being ranked 13 with a month to go is "in trouble for sure"? Patience is a virtue, and there are plenty of recruits left to go after.
The problem isn't the ranking, the problem is we have GIANT holes. You can't recruit 5 elite OL and 2 elite TE and think you'll have a good team.
Java - there's still a long way to go, even though it's only a month. A lot can change between now and then.
I'm not blind as to what positions are critical at this point.
Besides, we don't have just the seven recruits you've referenced above. We have three d-linemen and two linebackers. We need at least two DB's along with another DL and LB. It's not as though Kelly and co. can't make that happen.
Let's just wait and see before rendering final judgment.
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I get there is a month to go but there is a real difference between getting bodies and getting good players. If ND was coming off a 10 or 11 win season and there was excitement around the program we very well may pull elite recruits but do you honestly think that an elite CB or elite DE is going to choose ND. Right now the only 2 really good players that I think ND has a chance with are Simmons and Martin.
You and I both know that 4 star kids that have had little interest in ND are suddenly going to change their mind and kids that we have been recruiting now suddenly find the coach they have a relationship is gone. I'm not saying it's impossible but it is extremely unlikely we replace Adebo with a guy of equal talent nor do I think we will sign any 4 star DE (which we desperately need). Lets not forget that other coaches will certainly be trying to poach our guys and as you say there is a long time until NSD.
The elites didn't choose ND after the 12-0 + Alabama debacle....guess they sensed it.
One WR recruit and he is a 3 star. No WR coach or QB coach named yet. Think there is a correlation there.
Those coaches should have been named before the two highschool allstar games where recruits talk to one another. Kelly blows it again.
Those coaches should have been named before the two highschool allstar games where recruits talk to one another. Kelly blows it again.
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