Question for the feeble minded.
- Thread starter BodiTheGreat
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"Why do you Dems hate Capitalism?"
Not sure about that, but I think ND has a good shot of going undefeated in 2019!
Truth be told, I'm not too crazy about USC. Their history. Their colors, That redundant song that makes car paint peel in the stadium parking lot. Tommy Trojan. That horsey. The dudes dressed up in make believe as Roman Centurions. snoop dog. will farrell. Petey. It's all a huge pile of steamy dinosaur dung. It's just not my opinion. It's medical science. Nine out of ten dentists surveyed could care less about Swanny, Helton, or anything else concerning that program.
Let me ask some equally stupid questions:
1. Why are Conservatives all racists?
2. Why are all priests pedophiles?
3. Why are Irish people all drunks?
4. Why can't ND win the Nat'l Championship every year?
5. Why can't people believe that Global Warming is just fake news?
6. Isn't Sean Hannity the best?
7. Who doesn't think that Ann Coulter is hot?
8. Boy, hasn't Trump done a great job of draining the swamp?
9. Who's the Mueller guy that people keep complaining about?
10. Does everyone really need healthcare and access to quality eduction?
It beyond belief, but trump supporters don’t believe in education.
If the country is pushing the education you received, maybe no education is better.
Obviously not accurate to suggest that all Dems hate capitalism, but it is fair to say there is a significant movement within the Dem Party that is critical of a capilitistic system that produces winners and losers, and they are increasingly vocal about income equality and redistribution of the wealth to remedy this. Suggestions that being a billionaire and a system that enables one to become a billionaire are both immoral, as recently uttered by the Dems new darling seem pretty anti capitalism, and so the Question Bodi poses is not without basis. The hatred for Trump and the view that he is increasingly disliked by moderates and independents, and therefor very vulnerable in the 2020 election, has emboldened the liberal left within the Dem Party, and I personally think they run the risk of nominating a liberal left candidate that will wilt in the general election. Bill Clinton’s “the era of big government is over” proved to be wishful thinking on my part.
Echo being a Dem makes soooo much sense … collects checks from god knows who while he spends all day on the internet ..... LOL!
I’m not a Trump supporter, but I also 100% don’t believe in taking taxpayers’ money to pay for a bunch of lazy kids to get 2.0 GPA’s in college.
I also don’t believe anybody can tell me how to best use my money.
The reason certain people are successful is because they make good judgements, & don’t need others to tell them how to use their wealth.
I actually give a lot less now than I used to once I moved up another tax bracket & had much more taken from me. The funny thing is a can guarantee the amount I was giving & who I was giving it to was much, much, much more beneficial than what is being done with what they are taking from me now.
Intelligent, successful people do way more with their donations than the idiots who take it from them to give to freeloaders.
I donated my money & time to help inner-city youth off the streets & to get into college. Our program is WAY more successful than the crap the government now takes my money to give to freeloading, lazy, excuse makers.
Great job. This has nothing to do with my comment that most trump supporters think education is unnecessary.
Some would say it started when a socialist that was denied citizenship to the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics named oswald assassinated the first and only Catholic President and the bleeding of the red sympathizers began demonizing moderate leftists and defeating them in elections. I somewhat agree with this but I also can't ignore what President Ronald Reagan said in "The Speech"
"The cold war will end through our acceptance of a not undemocratic socialism." Another voice says, "The profit motive has become outmoded. It must be replaced by the incentives of the welfare state." Or, "Our traditional system of individual freedom is incapable of solving the complex problems of the 20th century." Senator Fulbright has said at Stanford University that the Constitution is outmoded. He referred to the President as "our moral teacher and our leader," and he says he is "hobbled in his task by the restrictions of power imposed on him by this antiquated document." He must "be freed," so that he "can do for us" what he knows "is best." And Senator Clark of Pennsylvania, another articulate spokesman, defines liberalism as "meeting the material needs of the masses through the full power of centralized government."
"Well, I, for one, resent it when a representative of the people refers to you and me, the free men and women of this country, as "the masses." This is a term we haven't applied to ourselves in America. But beyond that, "the full power of centralized government" -- this was the very thing the Founding Fathers sought to minimize. They knew that governments don't control things. A government can't control the economy without controlling people. And they know when a government sets out to do that, it must use force and coercion to achieve its purpose. They also knew, those Founding Fathers, that outside of its legitimate functions, government does nothing as well or as economically as the private sector of the economy."
Also
"Last February 19th at the University of Minnesota, Norman Thomas, six-times candidate for President on the Socialist Party ticket, said, "If Barry Goldwater became President, he would stop the advance of socialism in the United States." I think that's exactly what he will do."
"But as a former Democrat, I can tell you Norman Thomas isn't the only man who has drawn this parallel to socialism with the present administration, because back in 1936, Mr. Democrat himself, Al Smith, the great American, came before the American people and charged that the leadership of his Party was taking the Party of Jefferson, Jackson, and Cleveland down the road under the banners of Marx, Lenin, and Stalin. And he walked away from his Party, and he never returned til the day he died -- because to this day, the leadership of that Party has been taking that Party, that honorable Party, down the road in the image of the labor Socialist Party of England."
"The cold war will end through our acceptance of a not undemocratic socialism." Another voice says, "The profit motive has become outmoded. It must be replaced by the incentives of the welfare state." Or, "Our traditional system of individual freedom is incapable of solving the complex problems of the 20th century." Senator Fulbright has said at Stanford University that the Constitution is outmoded. He referred to the President as "our moral teacher and our leader," and he says he is "hobbled in his task by the restrictions of power imposed on him by this antiquated document." He must "be freed," so that he "can do for us" what he knows "is best." And Senator Clark of Pennsylvania, another articulate spokesman, defines liberalism as "meeting the material needs of the masses through the full power of centralized government."
"Well, I, for one, resent it when a representative of the people refers to you and me, the free men and women of this country, as "the masses." This is a term we haven't applied to ourselves in America. But beyond that, "the full power of centralized government" -- this was the very thing the Founding Fathers sought to minimize. They knew that governments don't control things. A government can't control the economy without controlling people. And they know when a government sets out to do that, it must use force and coercion to achieve its purpose. They also knew, those Founding Fathers, that outside of its legitimate functions, government does nothing as well or as economically as the private sector of the economy."
Also
"Last February 19th at the University of Minnesota, Norman Thomas, six-times candidate for President on the Socialist Party ticket, said, "If Barry Goldwater became President, he would stop the advance of socialism in the United States." I think that's exactly what he will do."
"But as a former Democrat, I can tell you Norman Thomas isn't the only man who has drawn this parallel to socialism with the present administration, because back in 1936, Mr. Democrat himself, Al Smith, the great American, came before the American people and charged that the leadership of his Party was taking the Party of Jefferson, Jackson, and Cleveland down the road under the banners of Marx, Lenin, and Stalin. And he walked away from his Party, and he never returned til the day he died -- because to this day, the leadership of that Party has been taking that Party, that honorable Party, down the road in the image of the labor Socialist Party of England."
So you want me to entertain that a large part of this country doesn’t care about education?
That’s a cool talking point for politicians, but it’s not true.
The following things are also not true:
Dems hate the military.
Republicans hate gays, minorities, etc...
A LOT of people who voted for Trump aren’t even fans of his, they just can’t stand Hillary. The Dems would have been better off running a soup can in that election.
I wrote in my vote (for the 2nd time) for George HW Bush in the last election.
I also did in the 2012 election.
I can’t anymore unfortunately, so I will have to figure someone else out unless there is an actual candidate in 2020 who isn’t a spazz.
Hahaha a leftist has the nerve to mention education
Riddle me this
Whom shall decide for parents where their their their children attend school
-The parents or even parent
-Or the teachers union
I'll wait for an answer
Riddle me this
Whom shall decide for parents where their their their children attend school
-The parents or even parent
-Or the teachers union
I'll wait for an answer
"Teachers unions have steadily amped up their political involvement: From 2004 to 2016, their donations grew from $4.3 million to more than $32 million -- an all-time high. Even more than most labor unions, they have little use for Republicans, giving Democrats at least 94 percent of the funds they contributed to candidates and parties since as far back as 1990, where our data begins."
Two organizations account for practically all of the contributions made by teachers unions: The National Education Association (about $20 million in 2016) and the American Federation of Teachers (almost $12 million). Both groups -- which compete for members, but also collaborate with each other through the NEA-AFT Partnership -- are consistently among the organizations that contribute the most money to candidates and political groups."
A plethora of information showing the union contributions to Dems can be found at
Open Secrets under the title
Teachers Unions
Data for the current election cycle were released by the Federal Election Commission on Tuesday, January 08, 2019
Two organizations account for practically all of the contributions made by teachers unions: The National Education Association (about $20 million in 2016) and the American Federation of Teachers (almost $12 million). Both groups -- which compete for members, but also collaborate with each other through the NEA-AFT Partnership -- are consistently among the organizations that contribute the most money to candidates and political groups."
A plethora of information showing the union contributions to Dems can be found at
Open Secrets under the title
Teachers Unions
Data for the current election cycle were released by the Federal Election Commission on Tuesday, January 08, 2019
That’s what I thought. I don’t understand why. Parents should be able to send their child where they feel is best for their situation.
I don’t think the entire “left” feels that way. Unfortunately the loud minority pushes what they feel will allow their political advancement.
The gay democrat from South Bend who is running for President strongly disagrees with a lot of the liberal national belief, but he knows he has to play along with it if he is to have a chance in national politics.
It's because of campaign donations or their roi = return on investment
I have no problem with this x donates $ to y expecting favorable advocacy with regards to laws
What I do have a problem with is the deception or painting of private or charter schools as the enemy of the "people" while ignoring what I mentioned above
Those in positions of power within the left not only feel that way but demonize anyone that isn't in 100% agreement
His voice is meaningless as a whole and of course he has to say this based on the proximity of the University of Notre Dame and other private and charter schools
If you can link something that he has done to change the party's status quo I'd appreciate it I can't seem to find anything
I do not think that there are any posters on this board , or , for that matter, any citizens of the USA or of the
Civilized world who are against education.
The questions , however , are just what type of education, what level ,and at what cost should that education be ?
Does one need to have a fancy piece of paper costing $200,000 because it has a BA or a BS stamped
Upon it.
Especially, in many case, where the program of studies may have been truly BS , and a brainwashing
In Leftist ideology?
Civilized world who are against education.
The questions , however , are just what type of education, what level ,and at what cost should that education be ?
Does one need to have a fancy piece of paper costing $200,000 because it has a BA or a BS stamped
Upon it.
Especially, in many case, where the program of studies may have been truly BS , and a brainwashing
In Leftist ideology?
I did a write in for a guy named Evan Mcmullen. Sucks that people who hate both candidates feel they have to vote for one or the other.... I personally wish the Libertarian party could get some traction going.
You won’t find anything over the past 3-4 years since the Dems started grooming him to be the next DNC Chair. Ironically he pulled out of that race saying the old liberal party needed to change.
In his early years of politics he pushed what he called “strong midwestern” beliefs of strong economy, strong military (he is in the Navy), taxpayers money being spent to benefit their community first.
"Suggestions that being a billionaire and a system that enables one to become a billionaire are both immoral, as recently uttered by the Dems new darling seem pretty anti capitalism,"
I believe the Dem view is much more along the line that under our form of alleged capitalism is the fact that the dice are loaded for the rich and powerful,starting with our Tax Laws,written by,and for, those with money and power. We have ,in fact, Capitalism for the peons and Socialism for the top 10 percent. They can make mega profits on investments and pay less tax than a plumber or teacher. They get depreciation on brick and mortar places,we get an increase in tax if we take care of and repair our homes.They get subsidies for their businesses and guaranteed income for not planting crops. If their business has retirement benefits for employees and fails to pay them,we,the ordinary Joes,have to pay for them.If the mega corporations and businesses make a profit they keep it and pay less tax than you or I,if they lose money and verge on bankruptcy we foot the bill to keep them afloat and they pay their managers bonuses and use our money to buy up their own company shares. "Such a deal I have for you should see,Irving", to quote my brother in law.How about that for Capitalism run amok
As for Socialist ideas for the hoi poloi that were fought tooth and nail by Conservative governments for years-- Social Security, Workmens Compensation for on the job injuries, the Laws banning child labor,although I see a GOP chap asking they be set aside now, the right to form a Labor Union.The puplic election of Senators rather than appointmen by State Governors, Medicaid, Aid to Dependent Children the right to have a lawyer present at a hearing.There are 73,954 pages in our Tax laws carving out exemptions, favors,diversion of public funds to private business etc.etc ad infinitum. Shall I go on or is that enough for you today ?
Interesting
What's his position towards private businesses reserving their right to refuse service
The libertarian party will never be relevant until it stops being the liberaltarian party based on Gary Bake The Cake Johnson and his vp pick and his history with the Clintons
Austin should've won since he was an actual libertarian and all bake the cake Johnson had to do was mention legal weed thus securing his pathetic nomination
Our enemy, the state
Albert Jay Nock
Good read...just not for the psycho librocrats
President Donald J. Trump excelled at the Wharton school of business ---- University of Pennsylvania. He understands economics--and his supporters put him in charge of the Free World ! And the American economy is at a superNova level with DJT in office !
And Jackson Domer aka Cavanaugh is also a Dem. Leader of the A$$$ Clown posse ! Who would of thought.
Milton Friedman was a big influence on me in my youth.
His voice still rings true today.
Democrats like Bill Clinton understood him
Those Democrats are now silenced.
It is no longer a Democrat or Republican.
It clearly has become the Washington establishment turning their backs on the constitution and our republic.
How is someone like Mueller becomes the most powerful man in America?
An unelected official for that matter with the power to raid homes of American citizens with more force than who was sent to raid osama bin laden, or sent to help those st Benghazi all the while being completely conflicted and allowed to get away with it.
This is what Washington has become and will not get any better.
His voice still rings true today.
Democrats like Bill Clinton understood him
Those Democrats are now silenced.
It is no longer a Democrat or Republican.
It clearly has become the Washington establishment turning their backs on the constitution and our republic.
How is someone like Mueller becomes the most powerful man in America?
An unelected official for that matter with the power to raid homes of American citizens with more force than who was sent to raid osama bin laden, or sent to help those st Benghazi all the while being completely conflicted and allowed to get away with it.
This is what Washington has become and will not get any better.
Poet, my friend,
This country has moved so far away from the country that I was born into. We had God in our homes and In our schools. We loved our country, our Constitution , our history and our flag. Democrats and Republicans had the same values of God and country and Family.
Today we have turned away from God, we are not only. Murdering babies in the womb, but actually
Passing laws to kill babies who are out of the womb.
My church is silent , the Catholic Universities are not only no longer Catholic , but have joined the radical, Godless Left !
You already mentioned the “ Justice “ system and the disgraceful witch-hunt !
No this is not the Great Country that I was born into !
This country has moved so far away from the country that I was born into. We had God in our homes and In our schools. We loved our country, our Constitution , our history and our flag. Democrats and Republicans had the same values of God and country and Family.
Today we have turned away from God, we are not only. Murdering babies in the womb, but actually
Passing laws to kill babies who are out of the womb.
My church is silent , the Catholic Universities are not only no longer Catholic , but have joined the radical, Godless Left !
You already mentioned the “ Justice “ system and the disgraceful witch-hunt !
No this is not the Great Country that I was born into !
Well, I don’t dispute that the powerful and wealthy have more influence in our system than the average person; and no denying our tax code is loaded with exemptions for special interests. But That doesn’t make it immoral to be rich or to be phenomenally successful like Howard Shultz, the target of this anti capitalism venom I referenced. I totally disagree with your characterization that we have capitalism for the peons and socialism for the top 10%, an argument supported by your summation of tax laws benefiting the wealthy. Special interests and wealthy influence notwithstanding, This top 10% that you reference still pays 70% of the total of all income tax paid annually. The top 1% pays more than the bottom 90% combined. The bottom 50% pays less than 3% of all income tax paid annually. It’s the traditional view of Dems that the top 10% should be paying more than 70% of all income tax paid. While I disagree, it’s at least a debatable public policy position. However, Suggesting that our capitalistic system that enables one to become a billionaire is immoral is extreme and class divisive, and plays to base emotions of envy and resentment, which I find repugnant.
Your statement is false. You literally have zero clue what 'most' Trump supporters think.
Appreciate the input. Everything you listed sucks, and I think most republicans would love to amend those laws.
Democrats, like Obama, when given the chance just like pubs, take care of the top 1%. See the bailout and how Obama allowed citigroup, paulson, etc to basically construct his presidential cabinet and dictate how a billion taxpayer dollars would be distributed.
What makes you think a socialist economic system in the US would NOT be ran by the current kleptocracy implementing 73000 pages of law to place themselves above others in your new system?
