Reports that Zach Martin is retiring. Great NFL career. 11 seasons
Zach Martin Retiring
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Most insane Martin stat is only 7 accepted holding calls in his entire career tying his 7 first team all NFL selections. GOAT level NFL guard.
Quinten Nelson and Zach Martin are the only two Rookie All PROS at guard in NFL History from one school
For Martin 7 first team ALL PROS and 2 Second Team ALL PROS
ALL Decade Team 2010
undoubtedly will be a first ballot HOF player
For Martin 7 first team ALL PROS and 2 Second Team ALL PROS
ALL Decade Team 2010
undoubtedly will be a first ballot HOF player
Absolute Hall of Famer. I said in his junior year he would be a guard at the next level and I was crucified on this board. Helluva career.
wish he had gone somewhere that he would have been able to get a ring instead of the Big And Little Enos show in Dallas
ONE MORE ASTOUNDING FACT ABOUT ZACH MARTIN:
in ELEVEN SEASONS IN THE NFL
he had ONLY 7 ACCEPTED HOLDING PENALTIES
in ELEVEN SEASONS IN THE NFL
he had ONLY 7 ACCEPTED HOLDING PENALTIES
How many more holding calls were declined, like sixty? I didn't know that was a statistical distinction. Yeah, the guy was one of the most penalized OL in modern NFL history, but you gotta remember only seven of them were accepted, all the vast number of the rest of them were declined, so they didn't hurt the team, so we can very rightly disregard them. And marvel how he really knew how to pick his spots.
I wonder if someone could make a sweet video or montage of NFL footage of the refs announcing the penalty, cut to Zach Martin standing there all sheepish, and then cut back to the ref gesturing that it's been declined on account of whatever the fortuitous strategic circumstances of the moment, and Troy Aikman in the booth observing how the Cowboys really caught a break there. Just one after another. You know, for fun, as a gag, at his induction ceremony. If they're going to make a point of highlighting his remarkable lack of holding penalties flagged, and then ultimately accepted by the opposing team. All the rest were declined.
I wonder if someone could make a sweet video or montage of NFL footage of the refs announcing the penalty, cut to Zach Martin standing there all sheepish, and then cut back to the ref gesturing that it's been declined on account of whatever the fortuitous strategic circumstances of the moment, and Troy Aikman in the booth observing how the Cowboys really caught a break there. Just one after another. You know, for fun, as a gag, at his induction ceremony. If they're going to make a point of highlighting his remarkable lack of holding penalties flagged, and then ultimately accepted by the opposing team. All the rest were declined.
I remember arguing with my friends when the Lions were on the clock and I was like Martin is the best olinemen in the draft he's a steal at 12. Lions ended up drafting Eric Ebron passing on Zack Martin and Aaron Donald. A classic Lions move if there ever was one.
Zack had a fantastic career. Should be a first ballot HOF entrant.
Here is a great article, published in SI back in 2022, where Zack explains how he developed his blocking techniques:
www.si.com
It is worth the read, especially if you enjoy offensive line play. Zack was truly a student of the game. What did Keith Jackson call O linemen?: The Big Uglies
Would love it if Zack came back and took some kind of coaching role at ND, but don't know if that is of any interest to him.
Here is a great article, published in SI back in 2022, where Zack explains how he developed his blocking techniques:
Zack Martin Has Seven Career Pro Bowls. And Seven Career Holding Penalties.
How is it possible? The Cowboys’ star guard on his secrets and the NFL’s most mind-blowing stat.
It is worth the read, especially if you enjoy offensive line play. Zack was truly a student of the game. What did Keith Jackson call O linemen?: The Big Uglies
Would love it if Zack came back and took some kind of coaching role at ND, but don't know if that is of any interest to him.
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The Lions took Ebron with the #10 pick. OBJ went to the Giants with the #12 pick. I was hoping my Bears would get Aaron Donald with the #14 pick, but the Rams scooped him up with the #13 pick. The Bears picked up Kyle Fuller instead, who had a decent but not great NFL career. Aaron Donald was hands down the steal of that draft, but Zack Martin is probably the next best player.
Times have changed for your Lions. My Bears are still wandering in the wilderness, but maybe Ben Johnson will turn things around for them.
so you got any evidence to back up your usual garbage?
Zachs last year was bad; several injuries and he was done
allowed five sacks
IN HIS PREVIOUS TEN YEARS HE HAD ALLOWED A TOTAL OF 15 SACKS
for those mathematically challenged likes stupid savvy that is 1.5 per season INCLUDING PLAYOFFS
https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/12/13/z...bowls-as-career-holding-penalties-daily-cover
by the way this also blows Stupid saavy claims about declined penalties
allowed five sacks
IN HIS PREVIOUS TEN YEARS HE HAD ALLOWED A TOTAL OF 15 SACKS
for those mathematically challenged likes stupid savvy that is 1.5 per season INCLUDING PLAYOFFS
https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/12/13/z...bowls-as-career-holding-penalties-daily-cover
by the way this also blows Stupid saavy claims about declined penalties
We will see atleast Bears have won a SB and made it back with Rex f'ing Grossman. Im already worried our window closed with Johnson leaving at OC. It was almost comical how many defenders got hurt for us this year. Lions are a cursed organization and I still dont believe ill ever see them win a SB
Evidence? Evidence?? Evidence you say??? Oh yeah man, I got all the evidence. I got evidence from here to yaya. But before I just hand it over to you, so you can bury it never to be seen or heard from again, could you explain to me what's up with this whole 'holding calls accepted' thing? Zach Martin's career speaks for itself, he's been all-pro pretty much every season he's been in the league, and couldn't possess more sterling HOF bona fides, just going by the traditional benchmarks, let's say. So he's covered. Uncontroversial!
I realize thanks to computer tech we live in an age of a statistics cornucopia, that has just exploded into the world of the spectator sports cognoscenti, and fans, thanks to the internet can freely indulge in this great bounty of statistical data, and a broad swath of new statistical categories, both to elucidate as well as obfuscate, so much more than you ever got on the back of a baseball card. I just figured we would draw the line at holding calls generally, and not merely the ones that weren't declined. So I had to chuckle at that. Obviously I was being facetious with the sixty declined holding calls bit.
And so what's up with that? What was the TOTAL career number of holding calls incurred by the great Zach Martin, soon to be hurried into the hall at the first opportunity. Once we get to the bottom of that maybe it's not so sterling. What are you hiding!
you got nothing; never had anything except a big mouth while I showed evidence that pissed all over you
F, I missed that. You did provide evidence. Alright, well, this has gone on long enough anyway. So I will peruse your evidence, sir! I honestly didn't even notice that, I just responded directly to your typically, irate, hyper-aggressive and bellicose post.
Lol yup, i remember his senior bowl eval was Martin turned heads and was by far best lineman during week but his short arms have teams worried.
Have faith, my man! I have been a Bears/Cubs/Bulls/Blackhawks fan all my life. For years Cubs fans talked about the Curse of the Billy Goat, but finally the curse was broken in 2017. It took the Cubs 107 years, but they finally won another WS! So there is hope for any team!
I really thought the Lions would play in the SB this year, but the injury bug finally got them, I guess. Sort of like what happened to ND. Our defense was decimated by injuries, as was the O line, but the injuries on the defensive side of the ball were killers. I think we could have beaten OSU if we were healthy, but it wasn't to be.
It's now been 40 years since the Bears last SB title, but I will go into this season as optimistic as ever. I hope those hopes won't be dashed 5 games into the season, but the anticipation is part of why you follow sports.
To quote the Andy Dufresne line from the Shawshank Redemption:
"Remember, Red, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies."
And so I hope both the Bears and the Irish will soon be champions again. I hope . . .
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Okay, I read that interminable article, and there was no stats as such, no database, but I don't of course doubt the veracity of the claim, so it's irrelevant.
But there was one interesting part, where a fairly lame attempt was made to dismiss the ignorant fan notion that holding could be called on every play, which I thought was condescending, but on account of a 'loophole' in the wording of the 'letter of the law', somehow they're not actually holding and getting away with it, and the refs aren't actually missing any holding calls. Which makes no sense, but the writer wanted to run interference on behalf of the refs anyway. All penalties are judgement calls, irrespective of any latitude created by clever or equivocal wording in the rule book, which nevertheless could be leveraged to defend or justify repeated non-calls on otherwise manifestly blatant violations.
and of course in your stupidity you missed the fact that he mentioned that Martin only had one declined holding penalty while YOU CLAIMED THERE WERE AROUND SIXTY
and only a total moron like you would take a article that covered many areas quite well as interminable when you post much worse virtually every hour of the day.
You are a pathetic person in all ways but keep coming; comic relief is a good thing even when you make stupidity seem intelligent compared to your drivel
There are three posters I stopped reading: savvyandsassier, 4-4-3, chaseball.
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