We will be #5... I guarantee you*

[88ND]

When playoff selection day comes around we will be seeded #5. You write that down.

Possibly ranked as high as #2. If Texas loses, PSU loses we will be ranked #2.
But...
We can't be seeded higher than #5.


*The only exception to our #5 seeding will be if PSU beats Oregon. That's the only team that can boot us from #5 to #6 is Oregon in a loss.
If Texas loses they will fall to 6 or lower.

I would rather have the extra game in the post season this year anyway. Our team has yet to learn how to win in a major bowl/playoff type of game.
Getting a #5 spot and hosting a game is exactly what the doctor ordered. Get our feet wet, and ready for round 2.

I'll take it!

 

[Chitown11]

Agree, I don't see penn st beating oregon. In fact I hope Oregon blows them away. ND should be set at #5 if that happens

 

[graceh90]

Miami or Bama as 12 seed? Seems more likely Bama

 

[THUNDERSTRUCK111]

When playoff selection day comes around we will be seeded #5. You write that down.

Possibly ranked as high as #2. If Texas loses, PSU loses we will be ranked #2.
But...
We can't be seeded higher than #5.


*The only exception to our #5 seeding will be if PSU beats Oregon. That's the only team that can boot us from #5 to #6 is Oregon in a loss.
If Texas loses they will fall to 6 or lower.

I would rather have the extra game in the post season this year anyway. Our team has yet to learn how to win in a major bowl/playoff type of game.
Getting a #5 spot and hosting a game is exactly what the doctor ordered. Get our feet wet, and ready for round 2.

I'll take it!

We are rooting for Oregon and Texas to win their ccg. If that happens we’re there at 5

 

[BM16]

Miami or Bama as 12 seed? Seems more likely Bama

Bama doesn't deserve it. Not even close.

 

[Chitown11]

We are rooting for Oregon and Texas to win their ccg. If that happens we’re there at 5

I dont think it matters what Texas does. Oregon wins, ND is #5 seed

 

[savvyandsassier]

Miami or Bama as 12 seed? Seems more likely Bama

I think Miami's out. And as far as Bama or another 9-3 SEC team, Bama's loss to Vandy is not the bad one. Vandy earned the nation's respect this year. They're were tough and competitive in most of their conference games, and that ended up not being that damaging. It was the loss to OU near the end of the season that was kind of the killer for them, if they don't get in, which they probably will and it won't matter. They were just beat too soundly by a pretty flawed OU team that LSU dispatched with ease. But, we need 12 teams so maybe they'll get it. I don't think Bama is meaningfully better than Miami. I'm not even sure who I'd favor on neutral field.

I would pick SCe over either of those two. Bama beat them, but just barely, and the cocks feel like they're finishing a little stronger. It's impossible to tell who's better or who really 'deserves' it, and you have to just pick someone at the end of the day. And then of course there's Ole Miss who's probably the best of the bunch, in terms of just quality and potency and that's the team with the best chance to win it all amongst the three loss SEC teams.

 

[Quest4Twelve]

Miami or Bama playing in South Bend in December is a sight to see. Them boys would not know what to do. Remember Miami during the Sun Bowl in 2010?

 

[FightingIrish44]

I think Miami's out. And as far as Bama or another 9-3 SEC team, Bama's loss to Vandy is not the bad one. Vandy earned the nation's respect this year. They're were tough and competitive in most of their conference games, and that ended up not being that damaging. It was the loss to OU near the end of the season that was kind of the killer for them, if they don't get in, which they probably will and it won't matter. They were just beat too soundly by a pretty flawed OU team that LSU dispatched with ease. But, we need 12 teams so maybe they'll get it. I don't think Bama is meaningfully better than Miami. I'm not even sure who I'd favor on neutral field.

I would pick SCe over either of those two. Bama beat them, but just barely, and the cocks feel like they're finishing a little stronger. It's impossible to tell who's better or who really 'deserves' it, and you have to just pick someone at the end of the day. And then of course there's Ole Miss who's probably the best of the bunch, in terms of just quality and potency and that's the team with the best chance to win it all amongst the three loss SEC teams.

I disagree with South Carolina. They lost to both Alabama and Mississippi including getting beat up by Mississippi. It’s hard to put them in over those two teams right in front of them that beat them. Their strength of schedule doesn’t make up the difference.

It is funny watching all of these coaches make their arguments. It would be great to watch a reporter challenge their reasoning. Like ask Beamer why he should be in before Alabama and Ole Miss when they lost to both schools and there’s only room for one of you. That wouldn’t be fair though and it’s a garbage question to even ask a coach if he thinks his team should be in.

 

[savvyandsassier]

I disagree with South Carolina. They lost to both Alabama and Mississippi including getting beat up by Mississippi. It’s hard to put them in over those two teams right in front of them that beat them. Their strength of schedule doesn’t make up the difference.

It is funny watching all of these coaches make their arguments. It would be great to watch a reporter challenge their reasoning. Like ask Beamer why he should be in before Alabama and Ole Miss when they lost to both schools. That wouldn’t be fair though and it’s a garbage question to even ask a coach if he thinks his team should be in.

I know, SCe did lose to both, and badly to Ole Miss, so they probably don't deserve it at all. But how the hell do you possibly pick, it's all circular, or it can be. But I guess the transitive principle maybe means something when it comes to assessing merit, if not for predicting future winners. Maybe it's just because SCe overachieved this year, and Bama just looked like shit against OU. And Ole Miss when they're cooking looks like best team in the SEC.

I have no problem with a three loss team getting in, I think it's inappropriate to even bring that up. However, if you don't think a three loss team is that good or deserving, on the merits, and the criteria, then leave them out, and only three SEC teams make it in. And you could definitely go with both Clemson and SMU if Clemson wins, or maybe two Big 12 teams. I'm not sure there's a legit scenario for two G5 teams somehow getting in anymore. But maybe two Big 12 teams. But it's probably going to be Bama, as far as the last team to make the cut. Without really researching it, if SMU loses to Clemson, it's down to SMU 11-1 or Bama 9-3, would be my guess for the last spot.

 

[melstew]

I think we could even be in the five spot tonight. The AP poll has us basically tied with Penn State (making up 150 points in last couple of weeks). On the ESPN computer we are 2 and pSU is 9. On Sagarin we are 1 nittany lions are 7. Plus they beat USC in ot. It's a closer call for tonight for that spot then the talking heads acknowledge.
So assuming we are the 5 by next week, who would we like? Iowa State would be nice, but we would lose the cold advantage.. Sun Devils in South Bend would be great, especially since they just had an injury to one of their big three. But i'm gonna ask Santa for the running rebels to beat Boise and come to South Bend

 

[FightingIrish44]

I know, SCe did lose to both, and badly to Ole Miss, so they probably don't deserve it at all. But how the hell do you possibly pick, it's all circular, or it can be. But I guess the transitive principle maybe means something when it comes to assessing merit, if not for predicting future winners. Maybe it's just because SCe overachieved this year, and Bama just looked like shit against OU. And Ole Miss when they're cooking looks like best team in the SEC.

I have no problem with a three loss team getting in, I think it's inappropriate to even bring that up. However, if you don't think a three loss team is that good or deserving, on the merits, and the criteria, then leave them out, and only three SEC teams make it in. And you could definitely go with both Clemson and SMU if Clemson wins, or maybe two Big 12 teams. I'm not sure there's a legit scenario for two G5 teams somehow getting in anymore. But maybe two Big 12 teams. But it's probably going to be Bama, as far as the last team to make the cut. Without really researching it, if SMU loses to Clemson, it's down to SMU 11-1 or Bama 9-3, would be my guess for the last spot.

Agree with pretty much all of that. It is a lot of circular reasoning if I understand the word correctly. There’s always points and counterpoints to be made. Take the whole body of work is what I’d say.

If SMU loses to Clemson, I’d really hope they’re in before Alabama. That would be flat out wrong IMO to leave them out. SMU has been crushing people and they shouldn’t be punished for losing their championship game even if by a lot. That doesn’t automatically apply to any conference title loser but does this year in the Big 10, SEC, and ACC in my opinion.

In the case of South Carolina, there’s only room for one of those three loss teams, so how can you put in the team that lost to both of the other two teams and one a blowout? That’s why I’d tell them no way. Just my opinion.

 

[Shakin' Down the Thunder]

Agree with pretty much all of that. It is a lot of circular reasoning if I understand the word correctly. There’s always points and counterpoints to be made. Take the whole body of work is what I’d say.

If SMU loses to Clemson, I’d really hope they’re in before Alabama. That would be flat out wrong IMO to leave them out. SMU has been crushing people and they shouldn’t be punished for losing their championship game even if by a lot. That doesn’t automatically apply to any conference title loser but does this year in the Big 10, SEC, and ACC in my opinion.

In the case of South Carolina, there’s only room for one of those three loss teams, so how can you put in the team that lost to both of the other two teams and one a blowout? That’s why I’d tell them no way. Just my opinion.

It's a flawed process that i would love and hate to be a part of. Committee has to process/evaluate all resumes and identify who the best teams are, as much as they can.

 

[88ND]

Miami or Bama as 12 seed? Seems more likely Bama

Actually...

*Georgia, who should be 8-4 and sitting there on the dock fishing with LSU and both ranked around #20...

*If they lose to Texas.

will weasel their way into the final playoff spot @ #12

It's hard to beat a good team twice in a season.

I personally feel Texas and Georgia have been overrated all year.
Texas with the trendy Manning hype and Georgia with the trendy yesterday hype.

 

[88ND]

We are rooting for Oregon and Texas to win their ccg. If that happens we’re there at 5

Texas/UGA has no bearing on our #5 seeding.
Oregon..if they lose..
will be #5 and us @ #6

 

[88ND]

I know, SCe did lose to both, and badly to Ole Miss, so they probably don't deserve it at all. But how the hell do you possibly pick, it's all circular, or it can be. But I guess the transitive principle maybe means something when it comes to assessing merit, if not for predicting future winners. Maybe it's just because SCe overachieved this year, and Bama just looked like shit against OU. And Ole Miss when they're cooking looks like best team in the SEC.

I have no problem with a three loss team getting in, I think it's inappropriate to even bring that up. However, if you don't think a three loss team is that good or deserving, on the merits, and the criteria, then leave them out, and only three SEC teams make it in. And you could definitely go with both Clemson and SMU if Clemson wins, or maybe two Big 12 teams. I'm not sure there's a legit scenario for two G5 teams somehow getting in anymore. But maybe two Big 12 teams. But it's probably going to be Bama, as far as the last team to make the cut. Without really researching it, if SMU loses to Clemson, it's down to SMU 11-1 or Bama 9-3, would be my guess for the last spot.

Easy...
Don't pick an SEC team

 

[Shakin' Down the Thunder]

Texas/UGA has no bearing on our #5 seeding.
Oregon..if they lose..
will be #5 and us @ #6

Yeah. Ya figure ND will be ahead of every 2 loss team, but committee can be shady (see FSU 23). If Oregon has 1 loss, I'd say they deserve to be ahead of ND.

 

[FightingIrish44]

I wouldn’t guarantee that a two loss PSU and/or two loss Texas would be behind ND. What if they lose by 1 point or in overtime? The committee could conceivably keep them ahead of ND.

 

[88ND]

I think we could even be in the five spot tonight. The AP poll has us basically tied with Penn State (making up 150 points in last couple of weeks). On the ESPN computer we are 2 and pSU is 9. On Sagarin we are 1 nittany lions are 7. Plus they beat USC in ot. It's a closer call for tonight for that spot then the talking heads acknowledge.
So assuming we are the 5 by next week, who would we like? Iowa State would be nice, but we would lose the cold advantage.. Sun Devils in South Bend would be great, especially since they just had an injury to one of their big three. But i'm gonna ask Santa for the running rebels to beat Boise and come to South Bend

The one team I don't want to see and truthfully I don't think anyone is looking forward to....

Boise State...

Realize this...
They lost to Oregon by a FG as time expired.
34-34 ...Oregon kicks the GW FG as time runs out.
The game was played @ Oregon.

BSU was that close to being the only 12-0 team in the country.

BTW...
Jeanty ran for 192 yards and three scores....
Against every poll's #1 team mind you.

 

[88ND]

I wouldn’t guarantee that a two loss PSU and/or two loss Texas would be behind ND. What if they lose by 1 point or in overtime? The committee could conceivably keep them ahead of ND.

I can guarantee a 2 loss PSU will not boot us from #5.
PSU and us has a fresh comparable. They needed OT to beat USC.
We didn't.

Texas won't lose to Georgia twice.

 

[mrwigglesby21]

Texas/UGA has no bearing on our #5 seeding.
Oregon..if they lose..
will be #5 and us @ #6

Disagree. If Texas takes a loss to GA by less than 10 points I could see them being at 5. Personally I prefer the 6 spot where we get a match up with a bigger name at 11 and most likely Clemson in the 3 vs 6 matchup. Also means we would be matched up against the 2nd seed in semifinals instead of the 1 seed Oregon (who I'd prefer to play in the Championship). I also suppose there is a slight chance Boise St or ASU/Iowa State get the 3rd seed if Clemson wins CCG (they get 4 seed due to 3 losses compared to Boise/ASU/ISU 1 and 2 losses).

 

[88ND]

Yeah. Ya figure ND will be ahead of every 2 loss team, but committee can be shady (see FSU 23). If Oregon has 1 loss, I'd say they deserve to be ahead of ND.

I agree FSU as a team deserved to be in over the trendy darling of Alabama.
FSU had 21 other players that helped them reach 13-0


Makes you wonder if the committee secretly knew it was Saban's swan song.?!

One could argue if our QB went out we're even tougher because Angelli is a much better passer.
Jordan Travis getting hurt was a huge loss for them but it still was wrong to have kept them outside looking in.

 

[88ND]

Disagree. If Texas takes a loss to GA by less than 10 points I could see them being at 5. Personally I prefer the 6 spot where we get a match up with a bigger name at 11 and most likely Clemson in the 3 vs 6 matchup. Also means we would be matched up against the 2nd seed in semifinals instead of the 1 seed Oregon (who I'd prefer to play in the Championship). I also suppose there is a slight chance Boise St or ASU/Iowa State get the 3rd seed if Clemson wins CCG (they get 4 seed due to 3 losses compared to Boise/ASU/ISU 1 and 2 losses).

Texas was #3 last Tuesday with Oregon, OSU ahead of them.
We were sitting at 5.
Tonight's rankings will be
Oregon 1
Texas 2
PSU 3 or 4
ND 3 or 4
Remember the rankings by the committee are not yet the seedings. So we could be ranked anywhere above #5

Does Georgia drop a spot or 2 needing 34 overtimes to dispel GaTech?

 

[Golson5]

Texas/UGA has no bearing on our #5 seeding.
Oregon..if they lose..
will be #5 and us @ #6

If Texas loses a close game, there's a chance they could be ranked ahead of us so yes there is a bearing on that game

 

[Golson5]

The one team I don't want to see and truthfully I don't think anyone is looking forward to....

Boise State...

Realize this...
They lost to Oregon by a FG as time expired.
34-34 ...Oregon kicks the GW FG as time runs out.
The game was played @ Oregon.

BSU was that close to being the only 12-0 team in the country.

BTW...
Jeanty ran for 192 yards and three scores....
Against every poll's #1 team mind you.

I would love to play Boise anytime. They aren't that good

 

[mrwigglesby21]

Texas was #3 last Tuesday with Oregon, OSU ahead of them.
We were sitting at 5.
Tonight's rankings will be
Oregon 1
Texas 2
PSU 3 or 4
ND 3 or 4
Remember the rankings by the committee are not yet the seedings. So we could be ranked anywhere above #5

Does Georgia drop a spot or 2 needing 34 overtimes to dispel GaTech?

I understand the rankings and seedings are different. You'd think GA would drop but I'd also think they would have moved ND ahead of Pedo St at this point and they have not. Georgia tends to show up for big games, although this year they appear most vulnerable. I think they clip Texas in Atlanta this weekend but Texas keeps it close enough that they won't fall beyond 5. And remember the committee I believe (or maybe it was the talking heads) said they were not going to penalize teams for losing the conference championship game. I think if a team gets blown out it cant help BUT to influence the thought process some.

 

[FightingIrish44]

I understand the rankings and seedings are different. You'd think GA would drop but I'd also think they would have moved ND ahead of Pedo St at this point and they have not. Georgia tends to show up for big games, although this year they appear most vulnerable. I think they clip Texas in Atlanta this weekend but Texas keeps it close enough that they won't fall beyond 5. And remember the committee I believe (or maybe it was the talking heads) said they were not going to penalize teams for losing the conference championship game. I think if a team gets blown out it cant help BUT to influence the thought process some.

I don’t believe the committee has overtly said they wouldn’t penalize a team for losing the title game. They don’t want to but will is my takeaway. They want to reward them for their season but it’s still a data point.

 

[Chitownrealist]

Agree with pretty much all of that. It is a lot of circular reasoning if I understand the word correctly. There’s always points and counterpoints to be made. Take the whole body of work is what I’d say.

If SMU loses to Clemson, I’d really hope they’re in before Alabama. That would be flat out wrong IMO to leave them out. SMU has been crushing people and they shouldn’t be punished for losing their championship game even if by a lot. That doesn’t automatically apply to any conference title loser but does this year in the Big 10, SEC, and ACC in my opinion.

In the case of South Carolina, there’s only room for one of those three loss teams, so how can you put in the team that lost to both of the other two teams and one a blowout? That’s why I’d tell them no way. Just my opinion.

So let’s assume the AP has it about right for the last four teams when the CFP committee numbers come out tonight:

TEAM	REC.
1. Oregon (62)	12-0
2. Texas	11-1
3. Penn State	11-1
4. Notre Dame	11-1
5. Georgia	10-2
6. Tennessee	10-2
7. Ohio State	10-2
8. SMU	11-1
9. Indiana	11-1
10. Boise State	11-1
11. Alabama	9-3
12. Arizona State	10-2

The committee has said they are not going to “punish” teams for playing in their CCG. If Clemson beats SMU for the ACC, isn’t Alabama or whoever is the 4th SEC team down around 12 out of luck?

 

[mrwigglesby21]

So let’s assume the AP has it about right for the last four teams when the CFP committee numbers come out tonight:

TEAM	REC.
1. Oregon (62)	12-0
2. Texas	11-1
3. Penn State	11-1
4. Notre Dame	11-1
5. Georgia	10-2
6. Tennessee	10-2
7. Ohio State	10-2
8. SMU	11-1
9. Indiana	11-1
10. Boise State	11-1
11. Alabama	9-3
12. Arizona State	10-2

The committee has said they are not going to “punish” teams for playing in their CCG. If Clemson beats SMU for the ACC, isn’t Alabama or whoever is the 4th SEC team down around 12 out of luck?

That's where I think if SMU goes down 34-10 they might be on the outside looking in. If they lose 31-24, then it will be a shitstorm.

 

[SubwaydomerDFW]

Are you saying tonight or for the final game?

For some reason I see the committee keeping Penn State ahead of ND tonight.. Even though the 2 common opponents component favors ND.

brain couldn't find another word to avoid the assonance.

 

[88ND]

So let’s assume the AP has it about right for the last four teams when the CFP committee numbers come out tonight:

TEAM	REC.
1. Oregon (62)	12-0
2. Texas	11-1
3. Penn State	11-1
4. Notre Dame	11-1
5. Georgia	10-2
6. Tennessee	10-2
7. Ohio State	10-2
8. SMU	11-1
9. Indiana	11-1
10. Boise State	11-1
11. Alabama	9-3
12. Arizona State	10-2

The committee has said they are not going to “punish” teams for playing in their CCG. If Clemson beats SMU for the ACC, isn’t Alabama or whoever is the 4th SEC team down around 12 out of luck?

The committee has said so much horseshit over the years.
Remember good old ESPN when the playoffs started promoted "now everyone has a chance "...
Right up until UCF never got that chance.
Needless to say that commercial got 86'd immediately.

Then all the gibberish of
"The whole body of work"
That was another one they loved saying.
Until FSU's "body of work" wasn't that important.

I swear some in the committee knew it was Saban's swan song before he announced it.

 

[88ND]

If Texas loses a close game, there's a chance they could be ranked ahead of us so yes there is a bearing on that game

NO...
They are NOT going to rank a 2 loss team ahead of us UNLESS that team takes one of the 4 bye spots which we can't have any of those no matter what.

As I said the only team that can give us the boot is Oregon if they lose. Notice they will only have one loss.

 

[88ND]

I would love to play Boise anytime. They aren't that good

You would...
and obviously don't understand the game aside from what the ESPN guru's tell you.
LOL...
Again with the Xbox nonsense.

When are you going to learn parity in CFB is at an all time high?
Everyone's poll or relevant poll has Oregon clearly #1.
BSU's only loss was to that very all worldly #1 team by a FG as time expired.
UNDERSTAND THAT?
BSU's only loss is much better than our loss.
NIU at home when we couldn't buy offense..
vs...
Oregon in Eugene in a 34-34 tie losing on a time expiring field goal. 37-34

Moreover...
The biggest part...
I do NOT want to chase Jeanty around the damn field for 60 mins. No thanks.

 

[sjb75]

Are you saying tonight or for the final game?

For some reason I see the committee keeping Penn State ahead of ND tonight.. Even though the 2 common opponents component favors ND.

brain couldn't find another word to avoid the assonance.

Penn State isn’t going below Notre Dame at 11-1. Was never going to happen.