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Hearing buzz about
1- Collin Klein. Kansas State one year oc n former qb is talking. Jet from Manhattan is at s bend yesterday
2- Andy Ludwig. Many claim a home run hire but questions remain on his ability to run an open passing game. Supposedly the most quiet of the searches could mean talks getting deeper and neither side wants to tip anyone off
3- Jason Candles of Tulane. Said to have offer in hand from Miami Has not bit. Might be talking
4/ Sean lewis Colorado. Coached at Akron ? With Ron Powlus. Might have legs
5- everyone else. Morehead, Denbrock,
 
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Hearing buzz about
1- Collin Klein. Kansas State one year oc n former qb is talking. Jet from Manhattan is at s bend yesterday
2- Andy Ludwig. Many claim a home run hire but questions remain on his ability to run an open passing game. Supposedly the most quiet of the searches could mean talks getting deeper and neither side wants to tip anyone off
3- Jason Candles of Tulane. Said to have offer in hand from Miami Has not bit. Might be talking
4/ Sean lewis Colorado. Coached at Akron ? With Ron Powlus. Might have legs
5- everyone else. Morehead, Denbrock,
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That’s a good description of Andy Ludwig. He loves to emphasize a physical ground game and throw off that.
 
Anybody know how these coaches stack up as recruiters?
 
I don't bite on Sean Lewis. His system doesn't fit. Coach Sanders (I refuse to call him prime) has proven to be very social media savvy, this pub will only help his recruiting when he decides to stay.
 
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mirer03 said:
I don't bite on Sean Lewis. His system doesn't fit. Coach Sanders (I refuse to call him prime) has proven to be very social media savvy, this pub will only help his recruiting when he decides to stay.
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Love Lewis. Brilliant offensive mind. Grand slam in my opinion.
 
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I don't bite on Sean Lewis. His system doesn't fit. Coach Sanders (I refuse to call him prime) has proven to be very social media savvy, this pub will only help his recruiting when he decides to stay.
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Same here. Pass on Sean Lewis. My first two are Utah OC Andy Ludwig, and Collin Klein.
 
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Didn’t keep up with K-State at all this year. Klein has only a year experience as OC, but talent is talent, obviously there is something they like.
 
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yurcich
lewis
ludwig
moorehead
klein

Not sure if all are truly candidates but from the names i've heard this is probably how i'd rank them.
 
Get Nasty said:
yurcich
lewis
ludwig
moorehead
klein

Not sure if all are truly candidates but from the names i've heard this is probably how i'd rank them.
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Fwiw IB podcast said they didn't think Lewis or Yurcich were seriously being considered at this point.

My personal opinion, is the more names that get mentioned the more likely there is already a sneaky prime candidate. Im going to say Morehead is the call, simply because you don't hear anything about him anymore
 
mirer03 said:
Fwiw IB podcast said they didn't think Lewis or Yurcich were seriously being considered at this point.

My personal opinion, is the more names that get mentioned the more likely there is already a sneaky prime candidate. Im going to say Morehead is the call, simply because you don't hear anything about him anymore
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What I read in another article (not the one attached) the 3 names getting serious attention are -

Ludwig
Klein
Lewis

www.yahoo.com

K-State’s Collin Klein emerges as potential candidate for Notre Dame offensive coordinator

Notre Dame may try to poach offensive coordinator Collin Klein from Chris Klieman’s coaching staff. Here’s what we know.
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com
 
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Klein is out, based on everything i've heard, he may have been offered position but turned it down or got more money from KSU to help him turn it down. I'm not disappointed yet, other than if he truly got offered that must not be good for us getting ludwig, lewis, or yurcich as all 3 i think are clearly better than Klein. Klein would be like re hiring Rees. Maybe Freeman loved what Rees was doing?
 
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Klein is out, based on everything i've heard, he may have been offered position but turned it down or got more money from KSU to help him turn it down. I'm not disappointed yet, other than if he truly got offered that must not be good for us getting ludwig, lewis, or yurcich as all 3 i think are clearly better than Klein. Klein would be like re hiring Rees. Maybe Freeman loved what Rees was doing?
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There was no official offer. They are still vetting candidate's...but yes seems like he is staying at ksu.

This has nothing to do with other candidates. Something in the talks led both to understand this wasn't the fit. Could be something as simple as wanting to bring his own staff ..

I'm curious about yurcich rumors because as far as I can tell it is only because of a airplane record, with zero news or Twitter about him being. A serious candidate.

If they bring in lewis get ready for a lot of Tyler Buchner because Hartman is gone. I can't imagine an air raid, wide spread helps him with his NFL aspirations anymore than the slow mesh.
 
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There was no official offer. They are still vetting candidate's...but yes seems like he is staying at ksu.

This has nothing to do with other candidates. Something in the talks led both to understand this wasn't the fit. Could be something as simple as wanting to bring his own staff ..

I'm curious about yurcich rumors because as far as I can tell it is only because of a airplane record, with zero news or Twitter about him being. A serious candidate.

If they bring in lewis get ready for a lot of Tyler Buchner because Hartman is gone. I can't imagine an air raid, wide spread helps him with his NFL aspirations anymore than the slow mesh.
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Air raid is significantly better than Slow mesh prepping for NFL.

Yeah Klein may not have been offered, I hope that's the case.
 
now Loy is reporting there absolutely was an offer to Klein. Hmm, if true, I don't like that unless for some reason freeman felt klein is better than ludwig, lewis, yurcich, moorehead, etc etc.
 
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now Loy is reporting there absolutely was an offer to Klein. Hmm, if true, I don't like that unless for some reason freeman felt klein is better than ludwig, lewis, yurcich, moorehead, etc etc.
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Loy also floated some of the Brian Johnson rumors that were then debunked .. there is obviously a good effort by Notre Dame to limit real information coming out regarding the search.
 
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Air raid is significantly better than Slow mesh prepping for NFL.

Yeah Klein may not have been offered, I hope that's the case.
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Trying to go as a QB from slow mesh to air raid concepts would be very difficult with only one year. I can't imagine him improving his stock in that system
 
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Loy also floated some of the Brian Johnson rumors that were then debunked .. there is obviously a good effort by Notre Dame to limit real information coming out regarding the search.
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"there is obviously a good effort by Notre Dame to limit real information coming out regarding the search"

As they should!
 
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now Loy is reporting there absolutely was an offer to Klein. Hmm, if true, I don't like that unless for some reason freeman felt klein is better than ludwig, lewis, yurcich, moorehead, etc etc.
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It's actually getting sort of funny with different reports from different sites... Almost like they are being fed different info. I don't like posting other boards premium info, but there is definitely a conflicting report regarding Klein that says no offer was made.
 
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It's actually getting sort of funny with different reports from different sites... Almost like they are being fed different info. I don't like posting other boards premium info, but there is definitely a conflicting report regarding Klein that says no offer was made.
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That is funny -- people like Nasty will be going nuts trying to follow all the twists and turns.
 
Agents also put out information. Dont believe anything right now.

Highly highly doubtful that an offer was made this soon to an inexperienced candidate. No way they offer this soon to me
 
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Agents also put out information. Dont believe anything right now.

Highly highly doubtful that an offer was made this soon to an inexperienced candidate. No way they offer this soon to me
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i'd normally believe that buy Loy is typically pretty good.

Yeah i'm not too invested now because freeman is trying to keep this private, as it should.
 
Get Nasty said:
i'd normally believe that buy Loy is typically pretty good.

Yeah i'm not too invested now because freeman is trying to keep this private, as it should.
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There are advantages to the candidate making it sound that way too.

1. It makes the candidate look solid at their current assignment...which only helps calms any recruits concerned if he's staying.
2. It makes it seem like the candidate was a "serious" option for a much bigger opportunity, which will only help get future opportunities
 
Look...we know the official announcement might take awhile....but its been a week.....should we not have the rumored hires name by early next week?
 
1Redrum said:
Look...we know the official announcement might take awhile....but its been a week.....should we not have the rumored hires name by early next week?
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No. They first have phone conversations. Then they have to in person visits. It's a process. And there's no need to rush it.

Lot of candidates. Lot of interviews to be done
 
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No. They first have phone conversations. Then they have to in person visits. It's a process. And there's no need to rush it.

Lot of candidates. Lot of interviews to be done
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I'd expect another week of vetting and interviews unless someone blows them away.
 
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Didn’t keep up with K-State at all this year. Klein has only a year experience as OC, but talent is talent, obviously there is something they like.
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Would be a great QB coach also as he was a heisman candidate in 2012, I believe. Gotta have a decent O to compete in Big 12. Can he recruit on the big stage with the big dogs is my only question? Ludwig seems to like power game of rbs and then use passing game that develops after running game. Also wonder about his recruiting prowess. Lewis seems like he would relate best with today's kids but don't discount the coaching ability of a Klein either. Any of those 3 would help ND to replace Rees. I only wonder how different Ludwig's game plan is from Tommy's.
 
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Klein is out, based on everything i've heard, he may have been offered position but turned it down or got more money from KSU to help him turn it down. I'm not disappointed yet, other than if he truly got offered that must not be good for us getting ludwig, lewis, or yurcich as all 3 i think are clearly better than Klein. Klein would be like re hiring Rees. Maybe Freeman loved what Rees was doing?
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Lol, you are so dramatic. Freeman, as a new HC, is using the opportunity to expand his network via the interview process. Will help him down the line. He isn’t in a position to demand or fully control anything..

Yet you have an anxious post every 10 mins
 
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I'd expect another week of vetting and interviews unless someone blows them away.
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makes sense. I think it would be less about blowing them away and more of risk losing them elsewhere if they don't offer. I can't imagine someone coming in that just blows away the competition (unless the competition is tee martin and parker), but who they like may be sought after elsewhere and we have to jump on it.
 
What's so good about Colin Klein. Isn't he pretty much Tommy Rees, only from K-State? As in not just the same young age, but the reason he's become an OC at such a tender age is because he gets special treatment as a favorite sone of that program. I thought we just got out from under that, and passed off our too-young top assistant on to Nick Saban. Now we're going to replace him and take on K-State's version of that, with even less experience than TR. Even though there's scores upon scores of other older, more seasoned more mature more experienced guys out there in the prime of their careers?
 
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What's so good about Colin Klein. Isn't he pretty much Tommy Rees, only from K-State? As in not just the same young age, but the reason he's become an OC at such a tender age is because he gets special treatment as a favorite sone of that program. I thought we just got out from under that, and passed off our too-young top assistant on to Nick Saban. Now we're going to replace him and take on K-State's version of that, with even less experience than TR. Even though there's scores upon scores of other older, more seasoned more mature more experienced guys out there in the prime of their careers?
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Again 1 year of play calling and was vs a big 12 no defense schedule. He could be great, but would be unproven for sure

Seems irrelevant as it appears he's out.
 
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Would be a great QB coach also as he was a heisman candidate in 2012, I believe. Gotta have a decent O to compete in Big 12. Can he recruit on the big stage with the big dogs is my only question? Ludwig seems to like power game of rbs and then use passing game that develops after running game. Also wonder about his recruiting prowess. Lewis seems like he would relate best with today's kids but don't discount the coaching ability of a Klein either. Any of those 3 would help ND to replace Rees. I only wonder how different Ludwig's game plan is from Tommy's.
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Ludwig doesn't try to confuse with multiple pre snap motions. He pounds you and makes you stop it then pounds you somewhere else then throws in play action.

Tommy counted on being able to process things faster than the DC and making motions confuse people...then run the same play. Ludwig has a more varied run game and won't alway run into a brick wall, he will check to run somewhere else, screen, etc.

Ludwig is very conservative though, not really explosive in bunches
 
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Ludwig doesn't try to confuse with multiple pre snap motions. He pounds you and makes you stop it then pounds you somewhere else then throws in play action.

Tommy counted on being able to process things faster than the DC and making motions confuse people...then run the same play. Ludwig has a more varied run game and won't alway run into a brick wall, he will check to run somewhere else, screen, etc.

Ludwig is very conservative though, not really explosive in bunches
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if tommy was able to process things faster he shouldn't have needed to use the check with me constantly allowing the D to catch their breath and get settled in. The check with me i don't think was great, would love to know it's success rate.
 
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if tommy was able to process things faster he shouldn't have needed to use the check with me constantly allowing the D to catch their breath and get settled in. The check with me i don't think was great, would love to know it's success rate.
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I don't like it, but the idea is Tommy was able to see the defense and call down the check to the QB based on what he saw from the box.

I actually think it's better to call the play and quick snap before the defense gets comfy...
 
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if tommy was able to process things faster he shouldn't have needed to use the check with me constantly allowing the D to catch their breath and get settled in. The check with me i don't think was great, would love to know it's success rate.
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Why doesn't Nick Saban think of this before he hires and pays an OC 2-million per year.
 
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I don't like it, but the idea is Tommy was able to see the defense and call down the check to the QB based on what he saw from the box.

I actually think it's better to call the play and quick snap before the defense gets comfy...
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Yeah, i don't have stats to back it up but I feel like when we actually checked into a new play towards the end of the play clock we were rarely successful. This would lend to both of our views that he may have been a descent caller if he's trust his call and roll with it quickly not letting the D time to catch breath and set up.
 
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