This troubles me

[NDblitz]

Two-score game. You play the percentages,” Freeman said of his rationale. “We’ve either got to get a three-and-out if we punt the ball and hope that we get enough time to have two separate possessions or you try to convert right there and play the percentages.

Analytics be damned. sometimes you gotta go with your gut and what the situation is telling you. Not the computer. These new coaches love analytics. But to me it’s both intellectually and emotionally lazy to solely trust them. At all times.

 

[1Redrum]

Look....recruiting is very important....but this game and our other losses to teams with less talent prove that coaching matters more. ND needs to try and control the one thing it can control....money...spend it on the best coaches. ND will still attract talent and with more winning even more talent but stop hiring guys who have to learn on the job whether it is the head coach or offensive coordinator. Enough already.

 

[theskibro]

Look....recruiting is very important....but this game and our other losses to teams with less talent prove that coaching matters more. ND needs to try and control the one thing it can control....money...spend it on the best coaches. ND will still attract talent and with more winning even more talent but stop hiring guys who have to learn on the job whether it is the head coach or offensive coordinator. Enough already.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Coaching. Omg coaching
That could be a line from a porn movie because we sucked all nite long

 

[IrishRaider51]

I rewatched the game and found the following... Our guys were slow to react, and it became a real issue as the game wore on. They looked very tired and lacked the edge, both sides of the ball. I asked myself why? Even our All American Quality players were dragging. They have played some very difficult teams. Playing 7 games (the last four undefeated and top 25 teams) two of them on the road while carrying a full ND academic schedule is maybe asking too much. We need to manage our Bye weeks better. Did we utilize our bench well? did we give our starters a "blow" now and then?

 

[IrishRaider51]

Two-score game. You play the percentages,” Freeman said of his rationale. “We’ve either got to get a three-and-out if we punt the ball and hope that we get enough time to have two separate possessions or you try to convert right there and play the percentages.

Analytics be damned. sometimes you gotta go with your gut and what the situation is telling you. Not the computer. These new coaches love analytics. But to me it’s both intellectually and emotionally lazy to solely trust them. At all times.

I'm not ready to react to firing anyone at this time but looking at this game followed by the Duke game we were able to dig deep and fine the energy and emotions to pull it out, but playing great teams multi-weeks in a row is draining. I rewatched the game and found the following... Our guys were slow to react, and it became a real issue as the game wore on. They looked very tired and lacked the edge, both sides of the ball. I asked myself why? Even our All American Quality players were dragging. They have played some very difficult teams. Playing 7 games (the last four undefeated and top 25 teams) two of them on the road while carrying a full ND academic schedule is maybe asking too much. We need to manage our Bye weeks better. Did we utilize our bench well? did we give our starters a "blow" now and then?

 

[notredamerises23]

Two-score game. You play the percentages,” Freeman said of his rationale. “We’ve either got to get a three-and-out if we punt the ball and hope that we get enough time to have two separate possessions or you try to convert right there and play the percentages.

Analytics be damned. sometimes you gotta go with your gut and what the situation is telling you. Not the computer. These new coaches love analytics. But to me it’s both intellectually and emotionally lazy to solely trust them. At all times.

The effect of going for it there has been overblown.

1. Freeman knew that Louisville would play conservatively starting at the ND 35 in order to bleed clock and get into FG range, and they did exactly that with conservative play calling. ND got the ball back down two scores with 7:30 left. We were already down two scores, so this worked perfectly. Could it have worked better punting and getting better field position? Yes, but we don’t k ow what would have happened. As it is, we got the ball back still down two scores.

2. Freeman knew that UL’s OL was leaning into us and was afraid a little more aggressive play calling on 1st down by UL from their own 20/25/etc., would lead to first downs and subsequently perhaps a long, time consuming drive that ends the game. Giving them the ball at the 35 takes away any chance of a long drive.

3. As it is, we got the ball back FOUR TIMES after giving it up on downs but only scored once. As far as maximizing opportunities, the strategy worked out perfectly, and with better QB/OL play, we could have mounted a serious comeback.

4. Obviously, the upside to going for it was getting the first down and the negative was a shortened field. Hartmanhad just pulled off a miracle last week, and we were due for a big play in that game, but it never came.

Now, it’s also true that had they punted, Louisville might’ve made some mistakes in its own territory with more pressure on them, but we don’t know if that would’ve happened or not. What we do know is that we got the ball back down two scores just like we started off down two scores and had seven minutes and 30 seconds left and then didn’t do anything.

 

[NDblitz]

I rewatched the game and found the following... Our guys were slow to react, and it became a real issue as the game wore on. They looked very tired and lacked the edge, both sides of the ball. I asked myself why? Even our All American Quality players were dragging. They have played some very difficult teams. Playing 7 games (the last four undefeated and top 25 teams) two of them on the road while carrying a full ND academic schedule is maybe asking too much. We need to manage our Bye weeks better. Did we utilize our bench well? did we give our starters a "blow" now and then?

True. I never saw this team going 12-0. I really think our reaction to this game is more clouded by the coaching blunder vs Ohio Stste. That game ND lost. They weren’t beaten. You go into that 6-0 and lose. It’s easier to examine the causes. But when the coaches blow a game. Then the next coaching blunders become amplified.

 

[sjb75]

I'm not ready to react to firing anyone at this time but looking at this game followed by the Duke game we were able to dig deep and fine the energy and emotions to pull it out, but playing great teams multi-weeks in a row is draining. I rewatched the game and found the following... Our guys were slow to react, and it became a real issue as the game wore on. They looked very tired and lacked the edge, both sides of the ball. I asked myself why? Even our All American Quality players were dragging. They have played some very difficult teams. Playing 7 games (the last four undefeated and top 25 teams) two of them on the road while carrying a full ND academic schedule is maybe asking too much. We need to manage our Bye weeks better. Did we utilize our bench well? did we give our starters a "blow" now and then?

No one was "dragging...." And Louisville and Duke are not "great teams...".

When your offense does nothing most of the game, can't run the football because the team stacks 8 guys close to the LOS and dares you to throw...and you can not move the football and score points, don't talk about academics and fatigue.

What was "dragging..." is Notre Dame struggles to score points consistently.

 

[Shakin' Down the Thunder]

Two-score game. You play the percentages,” Freeman said of his rationale. “We’ve either got to get a three-and-out if we punt the ball and hope that we get enough time to have two separate possessions or you try to convert right there and play the percentages.

Analytics be damned. sometimes you gotta go with your gut and what the situation is telling you. Not the computer. These new coaches love analytics. But to me it’s both intellectually and emotionally lazy to solely trust them. At all times.

That was just a microcosm of a much bigger problem. What we should be asking is why ND is down 2 scores in the 4th and facing 4th and 11? ND offense was woefully unprepared to play last night.

 

[Patrirish]

Two-score game. You play the percentages,” Freeman said of his rationale. “We’ve either got to get a three-and-out if we punt the ball and hope that we get enough time to have two separate possessions or you try to convert right there and play the percentages.

Analytics be damned. sometimes you gotta go with your gut and what the situation is telling you. Not the computer. These new coaches love analytics. But to me it’s both intellectually and emotionally lazy to solely trust them. At all times.

There’s also a risk reward consideratio.
What are the consequences if you fail ………. from your own 35.

9:40 is plenty of time if you punt and the defense holds them.

And it wasn’t 4th and 1, it wasn’t 4th and 6, it was 4th and 11 ………11 ?

Horrible decision and there is no excuse and no explanation will suffice !

 

[Patrirish]

The effect of going for it there has been overblown.

1. Freeman knew that Louisville would play conservatively starting at the ND 35 in order to bleed clock and get into FG range, and they did exactly that with conservative play calling. ND got the ball back down two scores with 7:30 left. We were already down two scores, so this worked perfectly. Could it have worked better punting and getting better field position? Yes, but we don’t k ow what would have happened. As it is, we got the ball back still down two scores.

2. Freeman knew that UL’s OL was leaning into us and was afraid a little more aggressive play calling on 1st down by UL from their own 20/25/etc., would lead to first downs and subsequently perhaps a long, time consuming drive that ends the game. Giving them the ball at the 35 takes away any chance of a long drive.

3. As it is, we got the ball back FOUR TIMES after giving it up on downs but only scored once. As far as maximizing opportunities, the strategy worked out perfectly, and with better QB/OL play, we could have mounted a serious comeback.

4. Obviously, the upside to going for it was getting the first down and the negative was a shortened field. Hartmanhad just pulled off a miracle last week, and we were due for a big play in that game, but it never came.

Now, it’s also true that had they punted, Louisville might’ve made some mistakes in its own territory with more pressure on them, but we don’t know if that would’ve happened or not. What we do know is that we got the ball back down two scores just like we started off down two scores and had seven minutes and 30 seconds left and then didn’t do anything.

Going for it and failing from his own 35 almost guaranteed that Louisville would get another score making it a two TD or 3 TD game.

And it was 4th and 11, not 4th and short.

There is no excuse for that decision with 9:40 on the clock !

 

[d1042]

All trashing aside, From what I glean over the games so far is ND does not have a real deep threat to concern the opposition. This is not a weakness that can be solved with the current roster, so the staff has to get out there post haste to fix this for ’24.

 

[Patrirish]

All trashing aside, From what I glean over the games so far is ND does not have a real deep threat to concern the opposition. This is not a weakness that can be solved with the current roster, so the staff has to get out there post haste to fix this for ’24.

That’s not true and ND has hit on a number of deep passes