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The Many Lives of Nick Buoniconti

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You shouldn’t miss this documentary.

Sad ending to a great life and a great career in football, on and off the field.

He raised an astounding $ 500,000,000 just for the Miami Project to help cure paralysis.

President and COO of U.S.T.

23 years on ESPN NFL program.

A practing attorney.

A sports agent.

All Pro, Hall of Fame, defensive captain on the only undefeated team in NFL history.
Super Bowl champion

All American at N.D.

Played at only 5’11” and 205-215

And ...... for the last 34 years, caring for his son Mark, a quadriplegic !

Truly amazing, a remarkable man !
 
I believe that it’s an HBO Special.

Well worth watching.

I spent some time with Nick in his senior year at N.D. when I was a lowly sophomore and reconnected with him years later on the golf course just before the CTE began to take effect.

Even as a 19 year old I quickly became aware that he was driven to excell, he was dedicated, very disciplined and determined.

Little did I realize where those qualities would take him in life.

Try to watch the documentary.
 
NB had an impressive career and his work with paralysis was amazing. I added the documentary to my HBO watchlist. I’m looking forward to watching it. Thanks for the info.
 
I remember he and Len Dawson doing Inside the NFL in HBO.

He played linebacker the way it has to be played.
 
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I’m surprised that more people haven’t watched and commented on this documentary about a very unique individual.

You’re missing a terrific program about an accomplished, loyal son of Notre Dame.
 
I’m surprised that more people haven’t watched and commented on this documentary about a very unique individual.

You’re missing a terrific program about an accomplished, loyal son of Notre Dame.
I’m not surprised about the lack of responses. Political, controversial and insulting threads get more of the attention on this board. Intelligent and intriguing posts like yours take a back seat.

As for the documentary, I never liked NB growing up as a young lad. I always thought he was a smug jerk on Inside the NFL but I didn’t realize until the documentary that it was part of the show. Even in his current state, he came across as very intelligent. CTE is awful and unfortunately I’ll probably never let my kids play tackle football.
 
McCallen,

Now that more is known about CTE and other side effects due to tackle football, I think you’ll see the participant base diminish over time.

Nick was a smart, tough guy who has been reduced to a helpless man all to soon, due to CTE
 
You shouldn’t miss this documentary.

Sad ending to a great life and a great career in football, on and off the field.

He raised an astounding $ 500,000,000 just for the Miami Project to help cure paralysis.

President and COO of U.S.T.

23 years on ESPN NFL program.

A practing attorney.

A sports agent.

All Pro, Hall of Fame, defensive captain on the only undefeated team in NFL history.
Super Bowl champion

All American at N.D.

Played at only 5’11” and 205-215

And ...... for the last 34 years, caring for his son Mark, a quadriplegic !

Truly amazing, a remarkable man !
Thanks going to watch it now
 
Op-ed: How one flawed study and irresponsible reporting launched a wave of CTE hysteria

Merril Hoge and Peter Cummings, MD
Yahoo SportsOctober 23, 2018, 3:03 PM GMT

Editor’s note: The following is an op-ed written by the authors of “Brainwashed: The Bad Science Behind CTE and the Plot to Destroy Football.”

The New York Times story dropped like a bomb on football and the medical community on the morning of July 25, 2017. Dr. Ann McKee, lead neuropathologist at the Boston University CTE Center, had examined the brains of 111 former NFL players and found signs of CTE, or Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy, in 110 of them.

The news broke the internet, sent reporters scrambling to develop their own takes, and sealed the deal for millions of American parents, doctors, coaches and players. Finally, the link between playing football and developing a terrible neurodegenerative disease seemed ironclad.

As an ex-NFL player and a forensic neuropathologist, respectively, we both have an interest in solid science and sound policy that protects athletes, so we were alarmed by the CTE Center’s findings. In its wake, parents were removing their kids from Pop Warner leagues, experts were calling football “child abuse” and some states talked of banning tackle football altogether.

Then we took a closer look at the study that led to the Times story — apparently something few journalists had bothered to do. When we dug into the methodology, we were floored. The study was so badly flawed that it was nearly worthless. But that’s not what had been reported in practically every major media outlet in the world. Thanks to the barrage of sensationalist coverage, the “110 out of 111 brains” story had turned into a wildfire, and we were standing around with a couple of garden hoses, telling everybody to calm down.

That’s why we wrote our new book, “Brainwashed: The Bad Science Behind CTE and the Plot to Destroy Football” (Amplify, Oct. 23, 2018), and it’s why we’ve written this op-ed. We believe that when people know what we know, they’ll start asking tougher, smarter questions, and the “football causes CTE” connection will be revealed as the pseudoscience that it is.

Sure, that’s a provocative statement. How can we back it up? Let’s start with this: the study that produced the 110 out of 111 brains finding had no control group. Good research design requires a control group against which findings can be compared. In this case, the control group could have been brains from 100 athletes from sports other than football, brains from 100 men who had never played contact sports – any cohort that would have allowed the researchers to determine whether men of a certain age who hadn’t played in the NFL also showed signs of CTE. For some reason, this study didn’t have that.

Strike one.
 
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Also, many of the 111 NFL brains were donated by deceased players’ family members specifically because the players had displayed symptoms of mood, cognitive or behavioral disorders. That’s selection bias. If you only look at brains from people who seem to have neurological problems, don’t be surprised when you find signs of those problems. A better approach would have been to randomly examine brains from some ex-players who exhibited mood, cognitive or behavioral issues as well as from some who didn’t. But this study didn’t do that.

Strike two.

Finally, there was no attempt made in the research paper (or the subsequent coverage) to control for or account for all the other factors in the lives of the deceased players that could have contributed to the condition of their brains. For example, nearly half the players had a history of substance abuse, suicidal thinking or a family history of psychiatric problems, but these were offered as possible results of CTE, not as possible independent causes of mood, cognitive or behavioral disorders.

In fact, 67 percent of the players found to have mild CTE also had substance abuse problems – and the abuse of some drugs can cause the key physical sign of CTE, deposits of a protein called tau in the brain. By the way, obesity, steroid use, cigarette smoking and chronic stress can also cause many of the physical signs of CTE. For example, 2016 research from the University of British Columbia found that anabolic steroid use causes CTE-like brain changes in mice, while research published in Frontiers in Neuroscience in 2014 found that obesity increases tau deposits in the brain. Were any of those former players obese, smokers or steroid users? Did they experience a lot of stress? We have no idea, because the study either didn’t ask or doesn’t tell us.

Strike three. You’re out.

Some of these limitations were discussed in the paper published on this work, but only in the last paragraph. In other words, they were buried. The researchers, especially BU, were all too willing to ride the wave of attention provided by the press without ever copping to the severe weaknesses in their work. As a result, the public is convinced that football causes CTE — and that anyone who says otherwise is a “denier” — based on work that would not have passed muster in a graduate-level research design course.

For the record, we’re not saying that CTE doesn’t exist or suggesting that taking repeated hits to the head is a good thing. Clearly, something is causing neurodegenerative disease in some athletes, and something is leaving CTE’s distinctive protein signature in their brains. But there’s so much we don’t know: what causes it, if impacts to the head are really involved, how much exposure is too much, what clinical symptoms (if any) these physical signs might cause later in life, if other factors are involved, and more. There are too many unanswered questions to justify the fear and hysteria.

What do we want? Simple. Pump the brakes. Let’s do transparent, collaborative, well-designed research that identifies the link between sports-related head trauma and neurodegenerative disease — if there is one. Let’s study other sports, like soccer. Let’s study women’s sports, not just men’s. Let’s do long-term prospective research that will tell us what decades of playing all kinds of sports does to the brain, what effects measures like protective gear and concussion rehab protocols have on outcomes, and if ex-athletes’ self-care after their careers are over can help them avoid CTE and other neurological diseases.

Let’s get good data from multiple sources and assess it based on diagnostic criteria created by the consensus of experts from multiple disciplines and multiple sources — rather than the criteria we use now, which were predominantly influenced by one source: Boston University. Let’s do science the way science is supposed to be done, and then act on that information, rather than on fear.

One of the arguments people are making is, “What’s the harm in being overcautious about hits to the head?” Good question. If the work of people like Dr. McKee is wrong and the media is peddling sensationalism and fear backed up by flimsy data, the harm is the impact this anxiety can have on people — young, old, and in between. The dire picture painted by the media could have a negative impact on mental health outcomes in athletes.

Right now, football players ranging from high schoolers to ex-pros are living in fear of CTE because they read inflammatory, fact-free stories in the press or because they forget where they put their car keys. Some pros are quitting the game in their twenties and giving up years of potential earnings because they fear that playing will cost them their futures. Bad information comes at a high cost. We not only have to get the science right; we have to get the story right.

Our kids, pro athletes, the great game of football and people who care about the truth deserve nothing less.

Merril Hoge is a former NFL running back who worked as an analyst at ESPN for 21 years, helping launch ESPN2, “NFL Live” and Fantasy Football, along with being a part of the longest-running NFL show on television, “NFL Matchup.”

Dr. Peter Cummings is board certified in anatomic pathology, neuropathology and forensic pathology. He is an Assistant Professor of Anatomy & Neurobiology with the Boston University School of Medicine. He earned his bachelor of arts from the University of Maine, his medical degree from the Royal College of Surgeons in Dublin, Ireland, and completed his pathology training at the University of Virginia. He also earned a master’s degree in pathology from Dalhousie University in Halifax, Nova Scotia.

“Brainwashed: The Bad Science Behind CTE and the Plot to Destroy Football” is published by Amplify. For more information, visit BrainwashedBook.com.
 
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Also, many of the 111 NFL brains were donated by deceased players’ family members specifically because the players had displayed symptoms of mood, cognitive or behavioral disorders. That’s selection bias. If you only look at brains from people who seem to have neurological problems, don’t be surprised when you find signs of those problems. A better approach would have been to randomly examine brains from some ex-players who exhibited mood, cognitive or behavioral issues as well as from some who didn’t. But this study didn’t do that.

Strike two.

Finally, there was no attempt made in the research paper (or the subsequent coverage) to control for or account for all the other factors in the lives of the deceased players that could have contributed to the condition of their brains. For example, nearly half the players had a history of substance abuse, suicidal thinking or a family history of psychiatric problems, but these were offered as possible results of CTE, not as possible independent causes of mood, cognitive or behavioral disorders.

In fact, 67 percent of the players found to have mild CTE also had substance abuse problems – and the abuse of some drugs can cause the key physical sign of CTE, deposits of a protein called tau in the brain. By the way, obesity, steroid use, cigarette smoking and chronic stress can also cause many of the physical signs of CTE. For example, 2016 research from the University of British Columbia found that anabolic steroid use causes CTE-like brain changes in mice, while research published in Frontiers in Neuroscience in 2014 found that obesity increases tau deposits in the brain. Were any of those former players obese, smokers or steroid users? Did they experience a lot of stress? We have no idea, because the study either didn’t ask or doesn’t tell us.

Strike three. You’re out.

Some of these limitations were discussed in the paper published on this work, but only in the last paragraph. In other words, they were buried. The researchers, especially BU, were all too willing to ride the wave of attention provided by the press without ever copping to the severe weaknesses in their work. As a result, the public is convinced that football causes CTE — and that anyone who says otherwise is a “denier” — based on work that would not have passed muster in a graduate-level research design course.

For the record, we’re not saying that CTE doesn’t exist or suggesting that taking repeated hits to the head is a good thing. Clearly, something is causing neurodegenerative disease in some athletes, and something is leaving CTE’s distinctive protein signature in their brains. But there’s so much we don’t know: what causes it, if impacts to the head are really involved, how much exposure is too much, what clinical symptoms (if any) these physical signs might cause later in life, if other factors are involved, and more. There are too many unanswered questions to justify the fear and hysteria.

What do we want? Simple. Pump the brakes. Let’s do transparent, collaborative, well-designed research that identifies the link between sports-related head trauma and neurodegenerative disease — if there is one. Let’s study other sports, like soccer. Let’s study women’s sports, not just men’s. Let’s do long-term prospective research that will tell us what decades of playing all kinds of sports does to the brain, what effects measures like protective gear and concussion rehab protocols have on outcomes, and if ex-athletes’ self-care after their careers are over can help them avoid CTE and other neurological diseases.

Let’s get good data from multiple sources and assess it based on diagnostic criteria created by the consensus of experts from multiple disciplines and multiple sources — rather than the criteria we use now, which were predominantly influenced by one source: Boston University. Let’s do science the way science is supposed to be done, and then act on that information, rather than on fear.

One of the arguments people are making is, “What’s the harm in being overcautious about hits to the head?” Good question. If the work of people like Dr. McKee is wrong and the media is peddling sensationalism and fear backed up by flimsy data, the harm is the impact this anxiety can have on people — young, old, and in between. The dire picture painted by the media could have a negative impact on mental health outcomes in athletes.

Right now, football players ranging from high schoolers to ex-pros are living in fear of CTE because they read inflammatory, fact-free stories in the press or because they forget where they put their car keys. Some pros are quitting the game in their twenties and giving up years of potential earnings because they fear that playing will cost them their futures. Bad information comes at a high cost. We not only have to get the science right; we have to get the story right.

Our kids, pro athletes, the great game of football and people who care about the truth deserve nothing less.

Merril Hoge is a former NFL running back who worked as an analyst at ESPN for 21 years, helping launch ESPN2, “NFL Live” and Fantasy Football, along with being a part of the longest-running NFL show on television, “NFL Matchup.”

Dr. Peter Cummings is board certified in anatomic pathology, neuropathology and forensic pathology. He is an Assistant Professor of Anatomy & Neurobiology with the Boston University School of Medicine. He earned his bachelor of arts from the University of Maine, his medical degree from the Royal College of Surgeons in Dublin, Ireland, and completed his pathology training at the University of Virginia. He also earned a master’s degree in pathology from Dalhousie University in Halifax, Nova Scotia.

“Brainwashed: The Bad Science Behind CTE and the Plot to Destroy Football” is published by Amplify. For more information, visit BrainwashedBook.com.

Thomas,

I read your replies with great interest, but you’re all wet on this one.

I played golf with Nick just before his slide began.
I’m devastated at how rapid the deterioration has occurred and to the degree to which it has occurred.

I also had a son who had his “bell rung”.

He was examined by neurologists who are the consultants for an NFL team.
They expressed concern over concussions and the resulting brain damage that high school athletes are prone to encounter

If you think that CTE is a myth, you’re sadly mistaken.

Football is a terrific sport, but it’s a dangerous sport, especially for those who were taught to tackle by “spearing”, or leading with the head.

The NFL is concerned that football will see its talent pool diminished as responsible parents steer their children to other competitive sports, such as lacrosse.

You’re not doing anyone a favor by being dismissive of the impact of football on brain function.
 
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Thomas,

I read your replies with great interest, but you’re all wet on this one.

I played golf with Nick just before his slide began.
I’m devastated at how rapid the deterioration has occurred and to the degree to which it has occurred.

I also had a son who had his “bell rung”.

He was examined by neurologists who are the consultants for an NFL team.
They expressed concern over concussions and the resulting brain damage that high school athletes are prone to encounter

If you think that CTE is a myth, you’re sadly mistaken.

Football is a terrific sport, but it’s a dangerous sport, especially for those who were taught to tackle by “spearing”, or leading with the head.

The NFL is concerned that football will see its talent pool diminished as responsible parents steer their children to other competitive sports, such as lacrosse.

You’re not doing anyone a favor by being dismissive of the impact of football on brain function.


Yeah that's a great story but I quoted a MD
 
Thomas,

I read your replies with great interest, but you’re all wet on this one.

I played golf with Nick just before his slide began.
I’m devastated at how rapid the deterioration has occurred and to the degree to which it has occurred.

I also had a son who had his “bell rung”.

He was examined by neurologists who are the consultants for an NFL team.
They expressed concern over concussions and the resulting brain damage that high school athletes are prone to encounter

If you think that CTE is a myth, you’re sadly mistaken.

Football is a terrific sport, but it’s a dangerous sport, especially for those who were taught to tackle by “spearing”, or leading with the head.

The NFL is concerned that football will see its talent pool diminished as responsible parents steer their children to other competitive sports, such as lacrosse.

You’re not doing anyone a favor by being dismissive of the impact of football on brain function.
agreed. i've seen it up close and personal. my nieces husband played 8 years in the NFL. the change in him is downright scary. to summarily dismiss the effects of CTE is stupid and dangerous.
 
the son of former irish running back Mark Green is stepping away from the game over concerns of head injuries and concussions. Cameron Green led Northwestern last year in receiving touchdowns. the problem is real.
 
Yeah that's a great story but I quoted a MD

That’s one doctor’s opinion, which happens to conflict with many others, some of whom specialize in researching CTE as their life’s profession.

Nick was a bright, active guy and in just a short time all of that was gone.

That didn’t happen from hitting the law books late at night.
 
the son of former irish running back Mark Green is stepping away from the game over concerns of head injuries and concussions. Cameron Green led Northwestern last year in receiving touchdowns. the problem is real.
According to many studies, including a landmark one conducted at Purdue, it's more the repetitiive subconcussive hits than concussions that create the serious danger. While concussions can be addressed to a certain extent, subconcussive hits occur naturally on every play and really cannot be eliminated without fundamentally changing the game.
 
According to many studies, including a landmark one conducted at Purdue, it's more the repetitiive subconcussive hits than concussions that create the serious danger. While concussions can be addressed to a certain extent, subconcussive hits occur naturally on every play and really cannot be eliminated without fundamentally changing the game.
Getting hit in the head is bad
We never knew that until 2015/Purdue study
"Science"
 
agreed. i've seen it up close and personal. my nieces husband played 8 years in the NFL. the change in him is downright scary. to summarily dismiss the effects of CTE is stupid and dangerous.
We should ban football and sneezing since sneezing causes migraines
"Science"
 
This is the same "scientific" method used to find out why guns hurt people and nothing else does or how we can blame the combustion engine for warming since the little ice age

If your destination is already predetermined then it is not "science"

You're engaging in confirmation bias
 
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That’s one doctor’s opinion, which happens to conflict with many others, some of whom specialize in researching CTE as their life’s profession.

Nick was a bright, active guy and in just a short time all of that was gone.

That didn’t happen from hitting the law books late at night.

had no control group. Good research design requires a control group against which findings can be compared. In this case, the control group could have been brains from 100 athletes from sports other than football, brains from 100 men who had never played contact sports – any cohort that would have allowed the researchers to determine whether men of a certain age who hadn’t played in the NFL also showed signs of CTE. For some reason, this study didn’t have that.
 
agreed. i've seen it up close and personal. my nieces husband played 8 years in the NFL. the change in him is downright scary. to summarily dismiss the effects of CTE is stupid and dangerous.
Attacking a straw man
Where did I say ignore CTE
 
had no control group. Good research design requires a control group against which findings can be compared. In this case, the control group could have been brains from 100 athletes from sports other than football, brains from 100 men who had never played contact sports – any cohort that would have allowed the researchers to determine whether men of a certain age who hadn’t played in the NFL also showed signs of CTE. For some reason, this study didn’t have that.

Thomas,

College/NFL football players are elite athletes, they’re bigger, faster and stronger with each generation and as such, the increasingly violent collisions between them have to have a devastating effect on the body and in particularly, the head/brain.

I always wondered why styrofoam helmets weren’t developed versus the hard plastic shell helmets.

I suspect that the advent of “spearing” dictated the development of the helmet as a weapon, versus a device to protect the head/brain.

Many, many years ago, players were taught to tackle with their shoulder and arms, then “spearing” changed that.

The game tends to ignore former players as the spotlight seems to shine solely on active players. High school, college and NFL players are glorified by schoolmates and fans alike. Once a player retires the spotlight shifts and ignores them and focuses on their replacement.

Former players suffer financially and physically, but few are aware of their fates as few, if any fans, follow the lives of former players.

Buoniconti is about 79 with CTE impacting him at age 73, but many former players suffer from CTE much earlier ages, in their 40’s, 50’s and 60’s.

I could be wrong, but I don’t believe you’ll find any studies that reveal early onset of CTE for the normal (non-contact) population.

Again, I could be wrong, but I don’t believe that there’s any evidence of, or studies Indicating, that CTE afflicts a significant portion of the non-contact population, with onset at any age.
 
According to many studies, including a landmark one conducted at Purdue, it's more the repetitiive subconcussive hits than concussions that create the serious danger. While concussions can be addressed to a certain extent, subconcussive hits occur naturally on every play and really cannot be eliminated without fundamentally changing the game.
agreed. like my nieces husband who was an offensive lineman. the hits to the head pretty much every single play has taken its toll on him. i never had children and played the game all the way through college but i would have a difficult time encouraging my son to play.
 
agreed. like my nieces husband who was an offensive lineman. the hits to the head pretty much every single play has taken its toll on him. i never had children and played the game all the way through college but i would have a difficult time encouraging my son to play.

Echowaker, Like smoking, as more data becomes available, more and more parents will discourage their children from participating in tackle football in its current form.

Nothing good comes from repeated blows to the head.
 
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