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So Brian Kelly couldn't tell who was the number 1 QB

and this week Kelly was not as involved with the offense; he helped redesign on defense.
for offense it was addition by subtraction!
 
According to Irish media insiders who were actually at the practices, unlike ALL of us making wise cracks on this free message board, both QBS were running too close to call. Both looked great with both having a dimension to their game that the other didn't have. Coach Lyght agreed. I know some want to build a solid case against against BK but use legitimate reasoned points. This is not one of them.
 
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According to Irish media insiders who were actually at the practices, unlike ALL of us making wise cracks on this free message board, both QBS were running too close to call. Both looked great with both having a dimension to their game that the other didn't have. Coach Lyght agreed. I know some want to build a solid case against against BK but use legitimate reasoned points. This is not one of them.

More excuses. You mean an assistant coached agreed with the head coach. Crazy talk I tell ya.
 
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we have an awesome offense THANKS TO KELLY and if he makes a home run hire at DC then were back to competing for titles
Awesome offense?
We've played some of the worst defenses in the nation so far. Tell me when the offense has ever been awesome, during his tenure at ND. He's had a couple of really good offenses, but nothing even approaching "awesome".
 
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Awesome offense?
We've played some of the worst defenses in the nation so far. Tell me when the offense has ever been awesome, during his tenure at ND. He's had a couple of really good offenses, but nothing even approaching "awesome".

Come on, man. Atleast be honest. I get "it" and I understand. I'm not happy with Brian Kelly either but to say they've only scored on weak defenses is factually strong.

22 pts in a flood at Clemson.
24 against at a good Temple defense in a rapid environment.
36 at Stanford.
28 in the bowl game against Ohio State.
27 at Florida State in 2014.
31 in the bowl game against LSU.

His offense's haven't been the issue.
 
Come on, man. Atleast be honest. I get "it" and I understand. I'm not happy with Brian Kelly either but to say they've only scored on weak defenses is factually strong.

22 pts in a flood at Clemson.
24 against at a good Temple defense in a rapid environment.
36 at Stanford.
28 in the bowl game against Ohio State.
27 at Florida State in 2014.
31 in the bowl game against LSU.

His offense's haven't been the issue.
Fire Kelly
 
I can't believe some of you would say that our offense isn't really good. the opponent doesn't matter as there putting lots of points up when there supposed to and they came in averaging 37.2 pts per game and that will go up with the 50 they put up today. say what you want about the defense but some of you are smoking way too much weed during ball games if you don't think this offense isn't really good
 
the offense is very good but the team lacks the type defense and depth to be a legit contender. And that is aside from the issue of coaching.

Then consider the potential draft losses.

How will it go? C9, you follow recruiting closely, so I know you realize how important it is for this class to finish better than any class Kelly has recruited to date. And that is just to avert disaster.
 
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This is a board of fans (fanatics) that when things get difficult, can't see past their own nose. The offense is absolutely not the problem. With the talent we have playing and in the pipeline, we will continue to see scoring in the 30-50 point per game range.

The issue is the defense doesn't have the athletes to be a proficiant defense, yet a dominant one. Defensive coaching won't make a difference. We need to make a decision as a university as to what we want from this program. Current status quo as a top university from an student athlete perspective or offer kids an opportunity to play for a national championship and receive a... "Michigan, Alabama, ohio state" student athlete education. No one at any of these schools is taking a freshman calculus class. Let's adapt to the times like we finally are with the field, scoreboard, facility. If we don't change, we'll be end up like army.
 
One small but important correction. The offense didn't score 50. Six was on the CJ KO return and two was on the blocked Xtra Point. The offense, in fact, left points on the field against a horrendous defense. An easy FG was missed. The running game is still a work in progress and as good as DK is, he threw into coverage that lead to a pick that led to a score and he missed some wide open receivers. The offense is pretty good but they need to improve. In fact, all three phases of this team needs work.
 
I don't know how recruiting will totally go right now pers until later on in the season but I think we'll get borderline 5 star CA CB Thomas Graham as his dad was quoted in a interview last week by a recruiting insider saying that he wishes his some would verbal to our irish already but that he knows though that he is just enjoying the recruiting process right now. also I think we end up with the nations top 2018 TE Zack Kuntz from PA who is 6-7 and a track star in the high hurdles. he was on commit watch for the mich st game and he said this past week that he loves our irish more and more everytime he visits and he is planning another trip for the Stanford game
 
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I don't know how recruiting will totally go right now pers until later on in the season but I think we'll get borderline 5 star CA CB Thomas Graham as his dad was quoted in a interview last week by a recruiting insider saying that he wishes his some would verbal to our irish already but that he knows though that he is just enjoying the recruiting process right now. also I think we end up with the nations top 2018 TE Zack Kuntz from PA who is 6-7 and a track star in the high hurdles. he was on commit watch for the mich st game and he said this past week that he loves our irish more and more everytime he visits and he is planning another trip for the Stanford game

Ok, but the NEED is in the Bigs! OL and DL. ND cannot end this class w/o adding an elite on both lines.
 
According to Irish media insiders who were actually at the practices, unlike ALL of us making wise cracks on this free message board, both QBS were running too close to call. Both looked great with both having a dimension to their game that the other didn't have. Coach Lyght agreed. I know some want to build a solid case against against BK but use legitimate reasoned points. This is not one of them.
So after that first half in Austin it was still too close to call? Is that you Hillary? Starting Zaire the second half down there was beyond comprehension. Keep spinning though.
 
Come on, man. Atleast be honest. I get "it" and I understand. I'm not happy with Brian Kelly either but to say they've only scored on weak defenses is factually strong.

22 pts in a flood at Clemson.
24 against at a good Temple defense in a rapid environment.
36 at Stanford.
28 in the bowl game against Ohio State.
27 at Florida State in 2014.
31 in the bowl game against LSU.

His offense's haven't been the issue.
Brian Kelly's red zone offenses have been the issue. Look up the stats.
 
geez, they get more points than needed to win! depth along both lines is the problem. And '17 will be worse.
 
This is a board of fans (fanatics) that when things get difficult, can't see past their own nose. The offense is absolutely not the problem. With the talent we have playing and in the pipeline, we will continue to see scoring in the 30-50 point per game range.

The issue is the defense doesn't have the athletes to be a proficiant defense, yet a dominant one. Defensive coaching won't make a difference. We need to make a decision as a university as to what we want from this program. Current status quo as a top university from an student athlete perspective or offer kids an opportunity to play for a national championship and receive a... "Michigan, Alabama, ohio state" student athlete education. No one at any of these schools is taking a freshman calculus class. Let's adapt to the times like we finally are with the field, scoreboard, facility. If we don't change, we'll be end up like army.
This logic is old and wrong. Has nothing to do with our athletes or who we recruit or that our players are not good enough etc. it had to do with coaching.

We cannot coach how to play the secondary. We are technically horrible. We don't take risks and do not blitz we do not plays loose and aggressive. It's coaching
 
and worse....he reads the message board so we were helping him!
purse, do you enjoy watching ND lose just so you can come on here a beat your chest? You seem to be a real miserable human being. Much like Buguit and cgvr are miserable also.
 
yeah recruiting will be such a mystery for awhile. Graham would be a nice get, but at this point i need to see some player development in the defensive backfield before i start to get excited. Cole Luke was a high 4* i believe and Redfield obviously was a 5*(who should've played offense) that I've seen play well below their ranking.

As for the QB battle, none of us were there in practice to see. I remember last year hearing Kizer was making a push on Zaire and i thought that was just coach speak to motivate Malik. Also, I really think BK will always regret telling Malik's family the spot was his when he came back, b/c i think he gave him every opportunity to win it back, when deep down i'd like to think he knew.
 
purse, do you enjoy watching ND lose just so you can come on here a beat your chest? You seem to be a real miserable human being. Much like Buguit and cgvr are miserable also.


did or do I make comments about your character; and just the post you made speaks volumes about it.

so put me on ignore! your obviously are not learning anything from experience so I am ridding myself of your posting. If you read the rules you just broke one. stay on the topic.
You comment on character; gimme a break! Sitting at a keyboard makes you the judge? Judge yourself.
 
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This logic is old and wrong. Has nothing to do with our athletes or who we recruit or that our players are not good enough etc. it had to do with coaching.

We cannot coach how to play the secondary. We are technically horrible. We don't take risks and do not blitz we do not plays loose and aggressive. It's coaching


It's completely about the athletes. Today the defense was very conservative with very few blitz plays. If you've watched ND over the last number of years, then you've seen that even with a blitz call we cannot get pressure on the QB and when we do it's too late.
 
Brian Kelly's red zone offenses have been the issue. Look up the stats.

Why would I need to look it up? There's not a single Notre Dame game that I've missed since before I can even remember Notre Dame. I'm well aware of Brian Kelly's many shortcomings vis-à-vis Notre Dame. But I also don't live in some fantasy world where Miss America is going to walk in my front door at any moment and where Notre Dame is still the only college football team on TV every single week. Times have changed.
 
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