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QB situation at Texas

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Texas could be starting a true freshman (early enrollee) against Notre Dame.

Shane Buechele, enrolled in the spring, and went 22-41 299 yards in yesterday's spring game(practice). Coach Strong said he "would be comfortable starting him" against ND. Good luck with that.

Swoops, an upperclassman, went 4-16 with 2 interceptions. Jerrod Heard - played a lot last year but is recovering from a shoulder injury.

Texas had a run of great QB play when they were good but it has been very inconsistent for them since and the W-L record reflects that.
 
just not starting Swoops is an improvement.
Texas will struggle on offense in '16. The UT defense will probably be ahead of the offense, it will have a talent infusion, but inexperience will mean the defense will be very erratic; making big plays followed by giving up big plays.

ND will win by 14-17 on the road.
 
IMO a Win on the road vs texas would be HUGE for the 2016 Irish!!! This is a team WITH talent but will need to find LEADERS and build CONFIDENCE each week. If ND was to lose an early game....texas would be the one since there is plenty of time to recover. A WIN though followed by an easier home opener could set the table for a nice run at Playoffs!
 
My early take on LEADERS is:

Offense---Malik & Kizer, McGlinchey, then hopefully Folston, Corey, and Torii.

Defense---Rochell, Cage, Onwaulu, Drue, Luke...and hopefully Max & Avery too.

Younger players will be needed to lead by their play but the demeanor of the team must come from the experienced players.

JUST WIN BABY!!!
 
So I know we should always have our eye on the prize this year, but does all this youth mean we are set for 2017?
 
Don't think Texas is going to be able to compete with the likes of ND. Strong is in over his head and the natives are restless. The Irish win easy again.
 
Don't think Texas is going to be able to compete with the likes of ND. Strong is in over his head and the natives are restless. The Irish win easy again.
Seems you also said ND would have no trouble with Ohio State...Put down the botttle//HIC!!!!!!!
 
Don't see Strong as being in over his head but UT was an absolutely trash pile when he got there. Defense will be much better but their offense will be thier downfall at least early against ND. Expect them to be 8-4ish playing much better at the end of the year.
 
Don't see Strong as being in over his head but UT was an absolutely trash pile when he got there. Defense will be much better but their offense will be thier downfall at least early against ND. Expect them to be 8-4ish playing much better at the end of the year.
He has had 17 changes to the staff in 2 plus years as the head coach. The next change will probably be him.
 
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Don't see Strong as being in over his head but UT was an absolutely trash pile when he got there. Defense will be much better but their offense will be thier downfall at least early against ND. Expect them to be 8-4ish playing much better at the end of the year.

They are even more of a trash pile with Charlie Strong as coach. He preaches strong values to his players but goes out and sleeps with other coaches wives on his down time. He will probably have to appear in court in one of his coaches divorce case. Charlie Strong = Bobbie Petrino.

An Oldham District Court judge will hear arguments Friday on Jonathan Blue's motion to compel former University of Louisville football coach Charlie Strong to testify in Blue's divorce suit against his wife.

In a Feb. 19 motion, Blue, a businessman and U of L trustee, said he needs Strong's testimony and records to show the behavior of Blue's wife, Tracy, was "inconsistent with being a role model and responsible caretaker” for their two teenaged daughters.

Jonathan Blue is seeking a subpoena for correspondence between his wife and Strong, now head football coach at the University of Texas, from 2012 to the present, as well as for the return of clothing and a watch she supposedly gave him. Blue also is asking for an order requiring Strong's deposition.

The motion will be heard at 9 a.m. Friday before Judge Jerry Crosby.



THE COURIER-JOURNAL

Sullivan | Does Strong practice what he preaches?


Kentucky is a no-fault divorce state, but Jonathan Blue's lawyer, Ann Oldfather, says in court papers that the records will support his motion for sole custody of the children. Tracy Blue is also seeking full custody.

Oldfather has declined to comment. Tracy's lawyer, Laurel Doheny, said in an email that "the end of the Blue marriage is an unfortunate event for their family. We do not believe that public comment helps this situation. We are engaged in a court proceeding and will make all appropriate statements in that forum."

Strong did not directly respond to questions about whether he and Tracy Blue had an affair, as the court documents imply.

In the statement issued Sunday by a spokesman for Texas football, he said it would be inappropriate for him to comment on a pending legal case.

The statement says he had recently been given information regarding a marital dispute "between a couple I know in Louisville" but hadn't been served yet with any papers.

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Jonathon Blue. (Photo: CJ file photo)

"I certainly respect the legal system, and if I do receive a court order, I will review it and respond then," he said.

Strong, who was hired two seasons ago at Texas and has been under fire for his team's record on the field, also said: "I do want Longhorn fans and supporters to know that this will not affect my focus in any way. My number one priority is getting this team ready to compete at the highest level. We are doing that now and will continue to do so.”

Tracy Blue says she was publisher of the Voice-Tribune newspaper, owned by her husband, until he removed her a couple of weeks ago. He has said she was never an employee and that her title was honorary.
 
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They are even more of a trash pile with Charlie Strong as coach. He preaches strong values to his players but goes out and sleeps with other coaches wives on his down time. He will probably have to appear in court in one of his coaches divorce case. Charlie Strong = Bobbie Petrino.

An Oldham District Court judge will hear arguments Friday on Jonathan Blue's motion to compel former University of Louisville football coach Charlie Strong to testify in Blue's divorce suit against his wife.

In a Feb. 19 motion, Blue, a businessman and U of L trustee, said he needs Strong's testimony and records to show the behavior of Blue's wife, Tracy, was "inconsistent with being a role model and responsible caretaker” for their two teenaged daughters.

Jonathan Blue is seeking a subpoena for correspondence between his wife and Strong, now head football coach at the University of Texas, from 2012 to the present, as well as for the return of clothing and a watch she supposedly gave him. Blue also is asking for an order requiring Strong's deposition.

The motion will be heard at 9 a.m. Friday before Judge Jerry Crosby.



THE COURIER-JOURNAL

Sullivan | Does Strong practice what he preaches?


Kentucky is a no-fault divorce state, but Jonathan Blue's lawyer, Ann Oldfather, says in court papers that the records will support his motion for sole custody of the children. Tracy Blue is also seeking full custody.

Oldfather has declined to comment. Tracy's lawyer, Laurel Doheny, said in an email that "the end of the Blue marriage is an unfortunate event for their family. We do not believe that public comment helps this situation. We are engaged in a court proceeding and will make all appropriate statements in that forum."

Strong did not directly respond to questions about whether he and Tracy Blue had an affair, as the court documents imply.

In the statement issued Sunday by a spokesman for Texas football, he said it would be inappropriate for him to comment on a pending legal case.

The statement says he had recently been given information regarding a marital dispute "between a couple I know in Louisville" but hadn't been served yet with any papers.

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Jonathon Blue. (Photo: CJ file photo)

"I certainly respect the legal system, and if I do receive a court order, I will review it and respond then," he said.

Strong, who was hired two seasons ago at Texas and has been under fire for his team's record on the field, also said: "I do want Longhorn fans and supporters to know that this will not affect my focus in any way. My number one priority is getting this team ready to compete at the highest level. We are doing that now and will continue to do so.”

Tracy Blue says she was publisher of the Voice-Tribune newspaper, owned by her husband, until he removed her a couple of weeks ago. He has said she was never an employee and that her title was honorary.

"Former University of Louisville football coach Charlie Strong won’t have to give a deposition in Jonathan and Tracy Blue’s divorce after all.

Lawyers for both sides said Thursday that the divorce has been settled.

In a text, Jonathan Blue, a U of L trustee, said: "Tracy Blue and I resolved our divorce action and all issues between us regarding our children and our finances on terms that are fair. I repeatedly attempted to resolve these issues before the recent media attention, but those efforts were unsuccessful. Taking care of my daughters remains my sole priority, and, for their sake, I request that our privacy be respected."

Yeah, and we have Justin Brent.....
 
Also its not really fair to say "17 staff changes in 2 years" when its 17 coaches in 2 years but 9 of them are the first 9 that we part of his staff when he got here. Its really only 8 changes. Just giving my two cents as a local. Back to the ether for me gents.
 
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Also its not really fair to say "17 staff changes in 2 years" when its 17 coaches in 2 years but 9 of them are the first 9 that we part of his staff when he got here. Its really only 8 changes. Just giving my two cents as a local. Back to the ether for me gents.
Time will tell on Strong. Even 8 changes in 2 years is nuts.
 
He ran off so many players the first year I thought I was witnessing Junction Boys II. You have to work with what was left behind or run the risk of setting your program back 5 years. Make the knuckle heads believe in what you're selling and build the program.

He had an interesting and I believe correct take.

“I didn't kick them off,” said Strong during his appearance on the program. “So much was said about, ‘He walks in here and he just starts getting rid of guys.' I always look at it like this: With our coaching staff, we've provided you a chance to just get it right and just do what we ask you to do, and that's what it came down to. Any time you take over a program, sometimes you're going to be challenged. I'm one of those coaches where I make it about the players. I want them to always understand that I'm going to do everything I can to make sure they're successful.

“Now, some people don't want to hear the message, and then when they decide that they want to run their own program, then I tell them, ‘You know what? This may not be the place for you. There's other schools that would love to have you, so I just think that's probably where you need to go.'”
 
You better strike a balance at Texas. Discipline is cool and I get it, but you'd better be winning more that 6 football games while you are instilling your brand of discipline. If you win 6 or less football games at places like ND, UT, Tennessee you should be canned. D Dooley, Weis deserved to be canned. Strong probably deserves to be canned as well,

8 wins in a 12 game regular season for a couple of seasons should be the floor at any Super Power. Unless they were put on scholly reductions.
 
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The dead weight he had on his roster was effectively scholly reductions. Also, you stop working on the recruiting circuit like Mack and Co. did and those relationships move on. Passed/Lost so many qb's that Strong hasn't had a chance. Its not like UT was winning 11-12 games and Mack retired before Strong came in...
 
yep

same posters that deride Strong, say
Weis was a decent to good recruiter but did not develop talent
then they about face and say
Weis left the cupboard empty for Kelly
and blah blah .......blah

TE'O, Eifert, Martin Rudloph.... ?
and
on UT there was?
 
Texas was 9-4 and 8-5 the 2 years b4 Strong got there. Not great but better than what Strong has been producing.
 
Nothing their draft history the last 3 years is terrible

Strong's win over Oklahoma last year was imo one of the best highlights of the CFB season...

Watch a couple of minutes of the full game replay on youtube beginning at 2:18:16.

They won't allow the link to play here....
 
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You better strike a balance at Texas. Discipline is cool and I get it, but you'd better be winning more that 6 football games while you are instilling your brand of discipline. If you win 6 or less football games at places like ND, UT, Tennessee you should be canned. D Dooley, Weis deserved to be canned. Strong probably deserves to be canned as well,

8 wins in a 12 game regular season for a couple of seasons should be the floor at any Super Power. Unless they were put on scholly reductions.
How is he suppose to find football players in Texas?
 
yep

same posters that deride Strong, say
Weis was a decent to good recruiter but did not develop talent
then they about face and say
Weis left the cupboard empty for Kelly
and blah blah .......blah

TE'O, Eifert, Martin Rudloph.... ?
and
on UT there was?

ND went 3-9, 7-6 and 6-6 because the cupboard was stocked. Other than a handful of offensive skill players. Weis couldn't recruit, develop talent, manage a program or win games. Unlike the guy who followed him
 
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Weis struggled with the defensive front 7 on D and across the entire OL! Defensively, ND has continued to struggle in ensuing recruiting sessions.
Weis had some very very good skilled players. But his ego caused him to think scheme was more important than talent. Weis did not realize football games are won in the trenches!

There is not doubt that the board has seem many posts claiming Weis to be a good recruiter! (i am not of that opinion) But claiming Weis a good recruiter and then claiming the cupboard was bare are contradictions: jmo!
 
ND went 3-9, 7-6 and 6-6 because the cupboard was stocked. Other than a handful of offensive skill players. Weis couldn't recruit, develop talent, manage a program or win games. Unlike the guy who followed him

I think Manti and Clausen were the #1 rated recruits in their class. So, in 2 of 5 years weis landed the nation's top prospect.

In addition, here are the NC game starters that weis recruited.

Braxston Cave
Mike Golic
John Goodman
Kapron Lewis Moore
Tyler Eifert
Dan Fox
Zack Martin
Zeke Motta
Theo Riddick
Manti Te’o
Ben Turk
Chris Watt
Bennett Jackson committed 6/7/09
Christian Lombard committed 1/3/09
Louis Nix committed 12/1/09
Prince Shembo committed 8/4/09
Danny Spond committed 2/1/10

You should have your head examined.
 
3-9 7-6 6-6 Sorry jock sniffer. Tuna Helper couldn't recruit, couldn't put together a staff, couldn't lead a program and couldn't win without Willinghams recruits.

Thats why he went 16-25 over his last 3 years. Has Brian Kelly ever went 16-25 anywhere? At any level? Nah...you're just a chump.
 
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Strong's win over Oklahoma last year was imo one of the best highlights of the CFB season...

Watch a couple of minutes of the full game replay on youtube beginning at 2:18:16.

They won't allow the link to play here....

Full game 1 hour version here




Why wouldn't they let you link it?
 
some utube links don't seem to 'link'; i noticed that also. I don't think it is this site issue though.
 
Full game 1 hour version here




Why wouldn't they let you link it?

Here's the link to the full game. Watch what happens when you hit play. The person who uploaded it is blocking playing it on other sites. Watch on Youtube from 2:18:16 forward for a couple of minutes..pretty cool....

2015 Red River Rivalry: Texas vs #10 Oklahoma

 
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When you upload to YouTube as the manager of the video you can limit it from playing in outside pages. That is what the poster in @cgvr post did.

Why I love the '1 hour football' page. Guy is great, uploads tons of games every year. If you haven't subscribed to him, one of the best subscriptions you can get on YouTube.
 
3-9 7-6 6-6 Sorry jock sniffer. Tuna Helper couldn't recruit, couldn't put together a staff, couldn't lead a program and couldn't win without Willinghams recruits.

Thats why he went 16-25 over his last 3 years. Has Brian Kelly ever went 16-25 anywhere? At any level? Nah...you're just a chump.

weis went to 2 BCS and was a bush push from NC game consideration. He was among the worst CFB head coaches I've ever seen. As I have said, ND will draw top notch talent regardless of who is here. Even Jaylon Smith stated that he was coming regardless of whether kelly left or not.

Again fats managed to get the top recruit in 2 classes. That's a 40% hit ratio. kelly is 0 for forever...

kelly went 19-16 at CMU which is .54286 weis went 35-27 at ND for a .56452 winning percentage.

Thanks for the ongoing laughs.

What's the difference between a guy getting calls, texts, emails from NFL players to head down to a workout, play golf, head to games... and a guy playing/toying around with a high school football kids dirty jockstraps?

One is an admitted jock sniffer...you'll figure it out. Gimpy, thanks for sharing that story though...it's who you are....

weis provided the backbone of extraordinary talent for our '12 run. Diaco did a fabulous job designing and implementing a championship caliber D. Sadly numb nuts was to busy prepping for an NFL interview and forgot he had an offense to run....
 
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When you upload to YouTube as the manager of the video you can limit it from playing in outside pages. That is what the poster in @cgvr post did.

Why I love the '1 hour football' page. Guy is great, uploads tons of games every year. If you haven't subscribed to him, one of the best subscriptions you can get on YouTube.

Your video is excellent at 1:10:03 the celebration starts and by 1:11:02 Strong is up in the air... Good stuff and thanks for the heads up on that "1 hour football page". looks great....
 
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