Was just watching the Tulane tape on YouTube and the center for GT cuts blocks like crazy. Hikes the ball and dives instantly at the nose guards knees. Still cant believe the NCAA hasn't made this crap illegal yet.Navy does it because they are undersized but whats GT's excuse?
over or under 3 linemen with leg injuries
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I'm glad you posted. I thought GT was not a cut-block team. ND cannot lose another DT without it hurting depth.
I would imagine that a player can be taught to beat the cut block but now, instead of reacting and playing, he is now focused on avoiding this blocking technique. Not enough university presidents, ADs, or coaches are complaining so nothing will be done. Maybe a study but that's about it. I want it banned. If the NCAA banned excessive celebration then they can do the same with this. Paul Johnson claims that there are not any more injuries playing GT as there are playing conventional offenses.
You can prevent the block and still react to the play. Teams use to do it all the time, but since offenses have changed most team lost the art. It's no fault of anyone who still runs it, but it is to their advantage.
I remember back in the late '60s and early 70s when I played CYO and HS ball, the coaches would teach a technique called "cross body block". For you younger fans, that meant a blocker would leave his feet and position himself parallel to the ground at a high rate of speed, all the while aiming for the defenders waist or lower. I don't even know if that technique is legal anymore or if it is even used. Probably not in youth sports. I played Split End as they called it back then and I can still see the DBs face when I would come at a full gallop towards the poor guy knowing he was going to get leveled.
I've been watching GT football for many years. Watched every game since PJ got here. I have never seen an opposing Dlineman get a knee injury as a result of cut blocking. Never. A statement like the OP has given is a misnomer said by someone who has watched 0 GT games. It's like saying PJs offense is 3 yards and a cloud of dust yet GT consistently leads in plays over 20 yards in league play.
This is sour grapes because your team team can't defend the option so you want it outlawed so everyone plays a cushy west coast style offense that your team is used to defending.
I hope for a good clean game Saturday. It'll be a great one for sure! But cut blocking won't be the reason you guys may lose.
This is sour grapes because your team team can't defend the option so you want it outlawed so everyone plays a cushy west coast style offense that your team is used to defending.
I hope for a good clean game Saturday. It'll be a great one for sure! But cut blocking won't be the reason you guys may lose.
And I have been watching ND football for many years and I can tell you that ND has lost plenty of players over the years against option teams due to the technique. Care to wager on what ND's record against option teams is all time? Teams that use the technique on a regular basis? There is no data that I am aware of citing the number of leg injuries against solid cut blocking teams as opposed to other type blocking techniques. So, Irish fans can unofficially go on what they have seen over the years. ND fans want to make it illegal along with coaches all across the country. Don't try to make it a Notre Dame thing. I wonder if PJ practices live cut blocks against his own first team defense during scrimmages or in the Spring Game? I think I know the answer to that.
I'm not making it a ND thing. VT is the other fanbase that complains about it. UNC as well.
GT has recruited bigger lineman the past few years and GT does not cut block the same as the service academies that still have undersized lines. For example, GTs RT is 320 lbs. that guy is our road grader. He does not cut. The center will cut to disrupt the middle.
Also, the perimeter blockers will cut on the perimeter inside the tackle box. Out side the tackle box they block high.
Opposing linemen have to employ the cross body block. You essentially take a quick step back and use your hands to shuck the cutting lineman this allows to keep your feet and take on the opposing runner. It's all about technique and preparation. Not GTs or any other option teams fault if the technique isn't right. That's part of the reason GT and other option teams are tough to prepare for. It's a whole new technique that responsibility defenses are asked to learn in just a few days.
Again, hoping for a great game and I've been looking forward to playing the Irish since seeing the schedule. You guys have a lot of history and tradition. Will be fun to watch my team play up there in south bend.
GT has recruited bigger lineman the past few years and GT does not cut block the same as the service academies that still have undersized lines. For example, GTs RT is 320 lbs. that guy is our road grader. He does not cut. The center will cut to disrupt the middle.
Also, the perimeter blockers will cut on the perimeter inside the tackle box. Out side the tackle box they block high.
Opposing linemen have to employ the cross body block. You essentially take a quick step back and use your hands to shuck the cutting lineman this allows to keep your feet and take on the opposing runner. It's all about technique and preparation. Not GTs or any other option teams fault if the technique isn't right. That's part of the reason GT and other option teams are tough to prepare for. It's a whole new technique that responsibility defenses are asked to learn in just a few days.
Again, hoping for a great game and I've been looking forward to playing the Irish since seeing the schedule. You guys have a lot of history and tradition. Will be fun to watch my team play up there in south bend.
every team cut blocks at some point. it's been used forever. the same whining here every year is silly. holtz teams cut a ton when they were running the option. I guess defenders shouldn't be able to cut a running backs legs out when he's carrying the ball either. it's a collision sport.
Maybe im just an old ball coach who's eyes are failing but some of these blocks will definitely take out a knee. GT don't cut block on every play like the navy but they still get a few good ones in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BV2gCcnQ8I
I know other teams use the technique. Paul Johnson is quick to point that out to anyone who will listen. My question still stands. If the cut block is part of football, does PJ use it full bore when scrimmaging or playing in their Spring game? I would be interested in a study comparing knee and leg injuries caused directly by the cut block as opposed to normal play. Maybe Paul Johnson has something to his argument. It must not be all that big a deal because I don't hear a clamoring to get it expelled. I would really like to talk to the players on the subject.....off the record, where their manhood won't be tested in front of their peers. Safety is supposed to be the reason for many new rules. Horse collar, facemask, leading with the helmet, roughing the kicker, touching the kicker, looking at the kicker, roughing the QB, crack back. If there is proof positive that more leg injuries occur when major cut teams are involved then not, something has to be done. I don't like it but if coaches and players are fine with it, so am I.
