OSU DE #6 (Hubbard)

[Quest4Twelve]

Did anyone hear during the broadcast that this kid (a freshman) came to OSU as a 205 lb safety? They had him listed during the game at 265 lbs!!! How is that humanely possible for a 18 year old to put on 55-60 lbs of muscle as the kid was shredded?!?!?

 

[perseverare]

occams razor

 

[Quest4Twelve]

Pretty quick on the trigger Perse! I don't want to insinuate but it's crazy for that to happen. Even looking at Bosa, the kid is 6'6, 275 and has ZERO belly on him with arms like watermelons. Please find me a player on the ND squad who looks like that?

 

[perseverare]

well, quick on the relly, because we cannot say some things candidly.

so best reply: Occam's razor

 

[kybuckeye2]

Ever wonder why Urban Meyer's first hire as OSU's coach (and the only one he brought with him from FL) was Mickey Marotti? The dude knows his stuff about strength, conditioning, and nutrition.

Hubbard came to OSU in 2014, and is a redshirt freshman. So, he's had two years in the program now. Not that big a deal to add 50 or 60 lbs in two years' time, if you're doing it right.

For comparison, here's a photo montage of OSU LB Josh Perry after spending some time with Marotti. The change is remarkable.

 

[perseverare]

reminds of the USC kid.

 

[FightingIrish44]

When did he come in? Even if it was spring, his listed weight during the game is inflated or he wasn't actually 205 when he came in. Probably a combination of both.

You don't go from 205 to 265 in under a year without becoming a fat slob no matter how hard you work or how awesome your steroids are.

Also, its impossible to put on 60 pounds of muscle...maybe for the rest of his life let alone one or two years. If you're not using steroids, the most muscle someone is going to put on is around 2 pounds a month.

 

[BGI User 1596]

Somebody asked him about it and he said "I didn't take any stereos!"

 

[kybuckeye2]

When did he come in? Even if it was spring, his listed weight during the game is inflated or he wasn't actually 205 when he came in. Probably a combination of both.

You don't go from 205 to 265 in under a year without becoming a fat slob no matter how hard you work or how awesome your steroids are.

Also, its impossible to put on 60 pounds of muscle...maybe for the rest of his life let alone one or two years. If you're not using steroids, the most muscle someone is going to put on is around 2 pounds a month.

He came in fall of 2014, so he's been in the program for two full seasons now.

 

[FightingIrish44]

He came in fall of 2014, so he's been in the program for two full seasons now.

Thanks.

Two full seasons. Only about 16 months. He isn't 265 or wasn't 205 or both.

 

[kybuckeye2]

In reading some of the articles, etc. from this season, they consistently list him as 265, so that's probably legit. One article mentions that he's put on "more than 35 lbs" since coming to OSU. I suspect that he was more like 220 when he arrived. He may have been 205-210 during his HS days, and then started adding lbs before he got to OSU.

 

[nptb]

Thanks.

Two full seasons. Only about 16 months. He isn't 265 or wasn't 205 or both.

He was close to 230 when he arrived at OSU. I saw him play his sophomore and jr years at Moeller High school. ESPN doesn't ever get these kinds of numbers right.

 

[klemman]

Typically you see that the average male can add 1-2 pounds of muscle per month, so based on that statement alone, Hubbard being able to go from 205 to 265 seems unlikely.

But there are several other issues to consider. The average man is about 5'10" tall. Hubbard is 6'5". The average man has an average skeletal frame. Hubbard is much bigger. The average man isn't a genetic freak. Hubbard seems to be. The average man isn't between 18 to 20 years old, when your body is producing by far the most testosterone of your life.

The average man doesn't have at his disposal the type of training, coaching, schedule, and nutrition available to him as a Division 1 football program.

As a lacrosse player in highschool, Hubbard wasn't likely conducting the kind of training that would put on bulk. Actually, all the running he did in lacrosse, tends to prohibit large muscular growth.

And finally he was closer to 220+ than 205 when he actually arrived at OSU. So in the final analysis, it is very possible for Hubbard to add 40-50 lbs (about 2 pounds per month) over the course of two years.

 

[Syd4ND]

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[cgvr]

Typically you see that the average male can add 1-2 pounds of muscle per month, so based on that statement alone, Hubbard being able to go from 205 to 265 seems unlikely.

But there are several other issues to consider. The average man is about 5'10" tall. Hubbard is 6'5". The average man has an average skeletal frame. Hubbard is much bigger. The average man isn't a genetic freak. Hubbard seems to be. The average man isn't between 18 to 20 years old, when your body is producing by far the most testosterone of your life.

The average man doesn't have at his disposal the type of training, coaching, schedule, and nutrition available to him as a Division 1 football program.

As a lacrosse player in highschool, Hubbard wasn't likely conducting the kind of training that would put on bulk. Actually, all the running he did in lacrosse, tends to prohibit large muscular growth.

And finally he was closer to 220+ than 205 when he actually arrived at OSU. So in the final analysis, it is very possible for Hubbard to add 40-50 lbs (about 2 pounds per month) over the course of two years.

The amount of calories these bigger guys inhale daily is crazy.....