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Ok now that we are done whining any conceivable path back into the playoff picture?

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This isn't a thread to talk about how disappointed in ND/Brian Kelly you are ... please keep discussion/replies directly pertinent to the question:

ND no longer controls its own destiny in the playoff picture, but with two weeks left + conference championship games, and a respectable opponent left on the schedule (Stanford) there could still be a lot of movement in the playoff picture.

ND is ranked somewhere between 6th-9th at the moment. If ND smashes Stanford & Navy and Miami wins out/finishes as a top 1 or 2 team, what else would have to fall in place to get ND back in the playoff picture?

Here's the top teams competing for playoff spots down the stretch:
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Miami could conceivably lose 2 games. Pitt on November 24. Half full stadium in 30 degree weather and neutral site game against Clemson. Alabama could lose 2 as well. Ohio state could have 3 losses, either against Michigan or Wisconsin. I envision a complete train wreck this year and 7 or 8 teams who all have legit claims and a lot of teams who think they deserve to get in being left out. This could be the beginning of the 6 or 8 team argument.
 
My prediction for the playoff?

Alabama
Clemson
OKLA
OSU (Iowa loss best thing happened to Urbie)

Ho-hum... Same ole, same ole...
 
Would need complete chaos..... which is almost guaranteed! I just hope ND plays good in the last two games and gets a new years bowl game..... ten wins and a good bowl would be something I think everyone would of took after last year.
 
If the game against Miami was down to the wire, we might have a discussion. As it stands, play for a major bowl , then act like you want to be there and win that bowl....no matter who the opponent. This shell shocked look is getting old.
 
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I still think ND has a shot. Two slots go to an SEC and an ACC team. That leaves just finishing second out of Ohio State (assuming Wisconsin loses one or two), the B12 champ (oSu could beat Oklahoma in their CCG), & a second SEC/ACC team. I assume the PAC is already kaput.

Not likely, but crazier seasons have happened (2007).
 
The loss to Miami was disappointing and very one sided, but that doesn't take away NDs previous 9 weeks of domination vs one of the best schedules in the country. The playoff committee looks at the entire picture, not just the highs and lows.

Outside of Alabama, the other 3 programs competing for playoff spots all have 1 or 2 losses and most of those programs don't have NDs strength of schedule/point differential.

Disappointing one sided loss to Miami? Yes for sure. Does ND need a lot of fortune in terms of teams ahead of them losing? Yes, that too. But there's still a chance here.
 
chaseball said:
The loss to Miami was disappointing and very one sided, but that doesn't take away NDs previous 9 weeks of domination vs one of the best schedules in the country. The playoff committee looks at the entire picture, not just the highs and lows.

Outside of Alabama, the other 3 programs competing for playoff spots all have 1 or 2 losses and most of those programs don't have NDs strength of schedule/point differential.

Disappointing one sided loss to Miami? Yes for sure. Does ND need a lot of fortune in terms of teams ahead of them losing? Yes, that too. But there's still a chance here.
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8 weeks of domination. You don't get credit for "dominating" in a home loss.

And two losses is not the same as one loss. At some point, losses have to hurt a team. See USC in 2016.
 
chaseball said:
This isn't a thread to talk about how disappointed in ND/Brian Kelly you are ... please keep discussion/replies directly pertinent to the question:

ND no longer controls its own destiny in the playoff picture, but with two weeks left + conference championship games, and a respectable opponent left on the schedule (Stanford) there could still be a lot of movement in the playoff picture.

ND is ranked somewhere between 6th-9th at the moment. If ND smashes Stanford & Navy and Miami wins out/finishes as a top 1 or 2 team, what else would have to fall in place to get ND back in the playoff picture?

Here's the top teams competing for playoff spots down the stretch:
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Just beat Navy, then we'll worry about Stanford.
 
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As much as I'd like to think otherwise, I just can't see it. If it comes down to the best of the two loss teams, I think the committee will have to give conference champions the nod. I don't think that was the case when we were a 1 loss team.
 
Speaking as an outsider, the only way I see Notre Dame sneaking back in to the conversation is a “total chaos” scenario of 1) Miami cleans Clemson’s clock as bad as they did yours so that only Miami is in the discussion from the ACC, 2) Wisconsin loses badly at least once and Ohio State loses another thus basically eliminating the Big Ten, 3) UCF loses to USF, 4) Auburn embarrasses Bama badly (could happen), Jawja loses to GA tech (could happen) and Jawja then beats Auburn (probably least likely to happen of the three), 5) Oklahoma loses to West Virginia or whomever they play in their title take AND 6) USC wins out so you have a dominating win over the weak PAC-12 winner.

Then and only then do I think you’d get in because under this scenario (which is possible and plausible just not probable) I think you’d end up with the following four 1) Miami, 2) Big 12 Winner, 3) Bama and 4) Notre Dame. But you would need all contenders but 1 eliminated from the ACC, Big 12 and SEC and for UCF, the Big Ten and PAC 12 to basically eliminate themselves.
 
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Absolutely not. ND got curb stomped. No conference championship to redeem itself and if it did that would be a stretch.
 
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UGA and UO both have to lose. Bama and Canes need a loss. Wisky needs to get shellacked in the B1G championship. Actually, Bama (Miami) doesn't need the loss as much as they need to beat Auburn (Clemson) in the Iron Bowl (ACC).

That leaves: Bama, PSU, Miami and ND. As long as ND is the #1 two-loss team then they are in. I doubt the committee would put a two-loss OSU or Clemson in over ND because of the over-representation of a conference.
 
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Would need complete chaos..... which is almost guaranteed! I just hope ND plays good in the last two games and gets a new years bowl game..... ten wins and a good bowl would be something I think everyone would of took after last year.
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I’m soooo disappointed in the Miami loss that I’ve turned my attention to correcting grammar. One of my pet peeves is the misuse of the contractions “could’ve, would’ve” etc. which is quite prevalent on this board. It’s not “could of”! It’s not “would of”! It’s not “should of”! Could’ve is a contraction of could have! Of course, if you’re an ND student/grad, you knew this.
 
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I’m soooo(not a word)disappointed in the Miami loss that I’ve turned my attention to correcting grammar. One of my pet peeves is the misuse of the contractions “could’ve, would’ve, (inserted comma- There should always be a comma before the abbreviation of et cetera.)” etc(Commas should be used to separate the elements in a series of verbs of more than two items). which is quite prevalent on this board. It’s not “could of”! It’s not “would of”! It’s not “should of”! Could’ve is a contraction of could have! Of course, if you’re an ND student/grad, you knew this.
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Ohe boi. I's so sorrey I's make aye misteak's. Plese fourgive me.

Please see my corrections above and maybe you could have been a better Grammar-Nazi.
 
chaseball said:
The loss to Miami was disappointing and very one sided, but that doesn't take away NDs previous 9 weeks of domination vs one of the best schedules in the country. The playoff committee looks at the entire picture, not just the highs and lows.

Outside of Alabama, the other 3 programs competing for playoff spots all have 1 or 2 losses and most of those programs don't have NDs strength of schedule/point differential.

Disappointing one sided loss to Miami? Yes for sure. Does ND need a lot of fortune in terms of teams ahead of them losing? Yes, that too. But there's still a chance here.
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Grasping on your tippy toes reaching so high for that last straw somewhere up there.

There is no way we get in. Miami wouod now virtually have to lose three games which won't happen for us to Even be considered for a spot over them. That's just them. We lost too late in the year and honestly I don't think we deserve to be in there. Until we can show up and win a game like Saturday night we don't belong ahd I don't care what the other four teams did or didn't do.

It was amateur night again on our sideline.
 
It was a bad game, those happen! It doesn't wipe away what has otherwise been a really good season though. The playoff committee looks at the whole picture -- not just bad 1 game samples.

If ND puts a beat down on Stanford and Navy and some other things fall into place down the stretch ahead of them in the CFP rankings they might still be able to get in.

ND still has close to a +200 point differential vs one of the best schedules in the country.
 
....and if we lose one or both of the following games? ND, under coach 8 & 4's leadership, can win almost any game and certainly lose any game against any team. He's Vegas's ace in the hole. Just hoping we get in a New Year's bowl, then Jack can bump his salary once again...
 
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....and if we lose one or both of the following games? ND, under coach 8 & 4's leadership, can win almost any game and certainly lose any game against any team. He's Vegas's ace in the hole. Just hoping we get in a New Year's bowl, then Jack can bump his salary once again...
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It took a day longer than I expected for you to climb out of your hole.
 
HaHa! I love the reverse psychology. "Join a conference or you'll never be relevant again." You mean "Join a conference to help make my squad more relevant right?"
 
no. But everyone and their mother are saying osu will get in and they lost 55-24 to a bad Iowa team so....
 
Consider that UGA, Mia. will most likely be 2 loss teams with tOSU.
If you eliminate tOSU, then UGA or Mia. get first consideration ahead of ND.
Teams ahead of ND need to lose that 3rd game. Then it becomes a beauty contest.
 
chaseball said:
This isn't a thread to talk about how disappointed in ND/Brian Kelly you are ... please keep discussion/replies directly pertinent to the question:

ND no longer controls its own destiny in the playoff picture, but with two weeks left + conference championship games, and a respectable opponent left on the schedule (Stanford) there could still be a lot of movement in the playoff picture.

ND is ranked somewhere between 6th-9th at the moment. If ND smashes Stanford & Navy and Miami wins out/finishes as a top 1 or 2 team, what else would have to fall in place to get ND back in the playoff picture?

Here's the top teams competing for playoff spots down the stretch:
Capture_zpscldrsvqg.png
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No. See 41-8.
 
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