Duke???? Notre Dame football just lost to Duke at home. That is a huge nail in the Kelly coffin. This is only going to get worse boys. Now we start losing out on recruits. Tom Herman is the next man in.
Now????? Do you Kelly guys finally get it?
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You guys are idiots. The only way Kelly gets fired if the team completely implodes . There needs to be a staff adjustment no doubt starting Van Gorder it does not matter what we so called kelly guys think, Jack makes the decisions. Basically Kelly is a good coach but may or may not be a fit for the Irish right now
I am shocked the wheels have fallen off so fast. Honestly, I did not see this season coming. I was 100% Kelly until the Texas game. I knew after that game Kelly had to go.
The texas game made you think Kelly should be fired? How? if anything it would be the compilation of these last few games but how after that game you think he needs to go? first game, makes no sense. Again, you fire BVG before you fire head coach.
1. 1-3
2. Out the top 25
3. Lost to 2 average at best teams at home.
4. Out coached in every loss.
5. More talent than every team they lost to.
Nothing will get better under Kelly.
2. Out the top 25
3. Lost to 2 average at best teams at home.
4. Out coached in every loss.
5. More talent than every team they lost to.
Nothing will get better under Kelly.
0The implosion is happening now. When your team looks so tight and afraid of losing instead of playing with passion and purpose, the implosion has already developed. Throw tons of money at Tom Herman. Enough already!!!
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Where is ContinualIrish and his 6 aliases? For that matter, where is Echo, Wicker, NDSC78, FloridaIrish, Pennick and the rest of the Kool-Aid Cockroach gang?
I am not a BK fan per se and when the wheels are falling off, you have to point to coaching for sure. Butt it is not BK or BVG that are constantly missing tackles. It's not BK or BVG that play DL and were getting pushed around all day by Duke's OL. It wasn't BK or BVG that coughed up the ball today. And we are playing a lot of freshmen in the defensive backfield.
No question there is a coaching aspect to this. And one could argue that the team is playing the way they are because they aren't inspired, they are too tight, whatever. And yes, I agree that we can't argue anymore the defensive liabilities.
But the players must take some responsibility. No passion, no leadership, no mental toughness.
No question there is a coaching aspect to this. And one could argue that the team is playing the way they are because they aren't inspired, they are too tight, whatever. And yes, I agree that we can't argue anymore the defensive liabilities.
But the players must take some responsibility. No passion, no leadership, no mental toughness.
I knew when Kelly continued to play MZ in the Texas game, even though he looked terrible and DK was playing really well that Kelly was way over his head. Each week after that proved my point.
I'm OK with a change. I gave Kelly about as much rope as I had. We need someone who can keep the team from folding every time something bad happens. And I need to get back in Sarah's good graces
You hypocrite! You are one of the worst offenders and bullies on this board. Go away cockroach.
This team looks like a team that has a new coaching staff that is trying to implement their new system. Missed tackles, turnovers all go back to coaching. Yes, of course players are not exempt from blame. However, Kelly sets the tone. This is all on Coach Kelly.
Sorry but the crappiness comes from the top down. To find the answer, follow the money. The University is getting mega-rich with things as mediocre as they are. They may want to keep the golden goose laying the eggs, instead of upsetting things by starting over with a new coach.
As I have said, this started in 1994. Holtz couldn't make it work. Davie couldn't make it work. Willingham couldn't make it work. Weis couldn't make it work. Kelly can't make it work. Mike Wadsworth couldn't make it work. Kevin White couldn't make it work. Jack Swarbrick can't make it work. The one constant I see is leadership in place that wants ND to be like an Ivy League school while still cashing in on all their nostalgia and past football fame.
Until the leadership decides that modern-day championship football is important to the University, it won't matter who they bring in.
As I have said, this started in 1994. Holtz couldn't make it work. Davie couldn't make it work. Willingham couldn't make it work. Weis couldn't make it work. Kelly can't make it work. Mike Wadsworth couldn't make it work. Kevin White couldn't make it work. Jack Swarbrick can't make it work. The one constant I see is leadership in place that wants ND to be like an Ivy League school while still cashing in on all their nostalgia and past football fame.
Until the leadership decides that modern-day championship football is important to the University, it won't matter who they bring in.
I agree. But also having a coach who does not make bonehead decisions would be nice too!
When a team has zero turnovers and no stupid penalties, everyone says wow, that is some great discipline and strong coaching. However, when a player has a stupid penalty or a team has turnovers that same coach is defended and the argument is well the coach didn't throw the interception. Can't have it both ways guys.
I don't know how anybody thought we were going to roll Texas. I had us winning a close game, but put it as a toss up.
I really expected this to be a rebuilding year, one in which we'd lose a shocker here or there, certainly not something this bad.
But that has been the Kelly story ever since he got here. He gets tantalizingly close and then the bottom falls out. Sometimes it is academics, sometimes it is the compilation of too many near misses at recruiting, sometimes its injuries, sometimes its playcalling, and sometimes it is preparation.
Just a very frustrating rollercoaster ride that I'm pretty certain is over right around Thanksgiving.
Actually the frosh play with more heart in backfield. I say start them and sit the other two upperclassmen.
We just lost to Duke at home. The same team who lost to Wake Forest by 10. Are you kidding me?
Ive been called out numerous times for saying Kelly should be fired. Well people are you still willing to ****ing talk shit to me. He is the most under performing coach in regards to recruiting that I have ever seen. This guy takes top 10-15 recruits year after year and makes them .500. Stop with the ****ing excuses for this ****ing jerkoff. I think academic and legal problems has been on the rise also. Not tomorrow...do it tonight.
I think you are correct which is why I'm hoping the Irish lose out. I said it before, it's year 7 it's all downhill after this as only the best coaches at ND have lasted longer than Kelly for a reason.
Kelly brought the program to the next level but unless a person is completely blind he has no chance of building a 10 win-a-season program.
Heck of a game guys. Here is hoping you extend Kellys contract like you did Cheeseburger Charlies.
we are so damn predictable its not funny. We play tight and poorly early on and fall behind, too far behind before we begin to play well (I think this is b/c they finally play loose and not just not to lose) and when the game is on the line we lose. when we got up 35-28 and duke got the ball I told my wife, "if this is nd of the past couple of yrs they will score here". when it was 35-35 I said if we didn't score on that possession we'd lose...both happened. I don't know what it is about how BK has coached the past couple of years but it seems to be repeated in every loss. when we do start fast we let the other team back into the game. in many of these games we have found ways to win but they've been closer than what it looked and felt like it should be.
This D problem goes back to 2014 when we set the worst ppg against in ND history. '15 was 5th worst. It was the worst consecutive years ever. This year is tracking that historical ineptitude. Do not for a moment going forward suggest that this is a youth problem or whatever else. This is a HC and and DC massive problem and it appears porky may have lost the team.
