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Don’t we have the 4th or 5th highest nil avg? Meanwhile Swarbrick is paid more then any professor by 5x — or more. yeah it’s broken but nd certainly hasn’t gotten impoverished by it. as Freeman said and I paraphrase, nd is not being hurt by nil—-see Sam Hartman
 
Don’t we have the 4th or 5th highest nil avg? Meanwhile Swarbrick is paid more then any professor by 5x — or more. yeah it’s broken but nd certainly hasn’t gotten impoverished by it. as Freeman said and I paraphrase, nd is not being hurt by nil—-see Sam Hartman
But Hartman is thinking big picture...not Mickey mouse short term 1 year NIL bullshit.

He's thinking first day draft status and $$$ that comes with that.
Either way we've needed a REAL damn QB for a long time!!! Way overdue!
 
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They aren't against NIL, they are against pay for play under the guise of NIL.
Sounds sort of like ...

"It 'depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is"

ND hates the NIL. Period.

We can't say such because that means we're telling top recruits we believe your ND education and all that comes with that in exchange for your athletic services is more than fair....

Don't let the lip service distort reality. It's all a Punch and Judy show but ND is one school that could be a leader breaking away from the NCAA. They aren't the only ones that hate NIL but they can't be the only school to break away. They need many others to follow suit.
 
They aren't against NIL, they are against pay for play under the guise of NIL.
yep

college sports played by actual students is a thing of the past; at least as a spectator sport! kids still play but there is no one at their games! They play for love of sport.
 
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NIL is being abused. It's supposed to allow student-athletes to sign NIL deals with sponsors. But instead, some programs are paying up front "acquisition fees" for players. That wasn't intended, and the NCAA should crack down on that IMO.
 
Sounds sort of like ...

"It 'depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is"

ND hates the NIL. Period.

We can't say such because that means we're telling top recruits we believe your ND education and all that comes with that in exchange for your athletic services is more than fair....

Don't let the lip service distort reality. It's all a Punch and Judy show but ND is one school that could be a leader breaking away from the NCAA. They aren't the only ones that hate NIL but they can't be the only school to break away. They need many others to follow suit.

Clueless

 
Yeah..... and I bet you buy everything a politician sells too.

What is he supposed to say? We're totally opposed to NIL? Oh that will do wonders for recruiting.

When all this started I said 5 years. Give it 5 years and you will see a drastic change(s) across the entire college landscape.

It might not take 5 years.
 
It’s not just the cash but the unlimited transfers & reclassifying also. Has anyone watched NCAA tournament. 23/24 year old players. I would venture to say some college bb teams are older than nba teams.
 
It’s not just the cash but the unlimited transfers & reclassifying also. Has anyone watched NCAA tournament. 23/24 year old players. I would venture to say some college bb teams are older than nba teams.
Not far away whatsoever.

The NIL and transfer portal is nothing but a shitshow
 
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Jack and the good Rev writing an op-ed in the NYT crying about NIL and pay to play is NOT a good look for ND. Like it or not, NIL and pay to play are not going away. That said, there definitely needs to be parameters put in place. Even Saban got pissed when an elite DB came into his office asking for $800,000 on a recruiting visit. ND has some of the top academic, athletic and legal minds in the nation. For f**ks sake use them and pioneer this new landscape. Are college athletics changing, yes! Is it going to destroy college athletics, no! These kids generate millions of dollars for their respective universities and they deserve their cut. Read Kyle Hamilton's tweet about NIL and pay to play. I think he's dead on.

One final point. These kids know they can get their degree at ANY time of their life. The window to play professional athletics is terribly small. ND needs to understand that and offer a prep program for athletes wanting to make it on the next level. Once they're done being a professional athlete, give them the opportunity to come back and finish their degree. You know, like Jerome Bettis did as Jack pointed out in his article. Bottom line, ND needs to get over itself and get out of the 80's. Last time I checked, people are NOT paying to see graduation rates. They're paying to see an elite football team. One that can actually compete for a Natty and not get crushed by 'Bama, Georgia etc...
 
Jack and the good Rev writing an op-ed in the NYT crying about NIL and pay to play is NOT a good look for ND. Like it or not, NIL and pay to play are not going away. That said, there definitely needs to be parameters put in place. Even Saban got pissed when an elite DB came into his office asking for $800,000 on a recruiting visit. ND has some of the top academic, athletic and legal minds in the nation. For f**ks sake use them and pioneer this new landscape. Are college athletics changing, yes! Is it going to destroy college athletics, no! These kids generate millions of dollars for their respective universities and they deserve their cut. Read Kyle Hamilton's tweet about NIL and pay to play. I think he's dead on.

One final point. These kids know they can get their degree at ANY time of their life. The window to play professional athletics is terribly small. ND needs to understand that and offer a prep program for athletes wanting to make it on the next level. Once they're done being a professional athlete, give them the opportunity to come back and finish their degree. You know, like Jerome Bettis did as Jack pointed out in his article. Bottom line, ND needs to get over itself and get out of the 80's. Last time I checked, people are NOT paying to see graduation rates. They're paying to see an elite football team. One that can actually compete for a Natty and not get crushed by 'Bama, Georgia etc...
Adrian, what did Hamilton say? I don’t have Twitter.
 
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Adrian, what did Hamilton say? I don’t have Twitter.
"NIL is cool, but revenue sharing seems most fair. Each NCAA conference allocates the revenue brought in by a sport then evenly distributes a percentage across that sport's athletes. NIL can be the differentiator in earnings. Make more plays=More endorsements/ deals."
 
"NIL is cool, but revenue sharing seems most fair. Each NCAA conference allocates the revenue brought in by a sport then evenly distributes a percentage across that sport's athletes. NIL can be the differentiator in earnings. Make more plays=More endorsements/ deals."
Now let’s say ND football Nil brings in 10 million. Split amongst the football team?
 
Now let’s say ND football Nil brings in 10 million. Split amongst the football team?
My understanding is that every player on the team would get a percentage of that $10 million through a revenue sharing program. NIL would be an opportunity for the individual stars to make more money on top of the revenue sharing.
 
Yeah..... and I bet you buy everything a politician sells too.

What is he supposed to say? We're totally opposed to NIL? Oh that will do wonders for recruiting.

When all this started I said 5 years. Give it 5 years and you will see a drastic change(s) across the entire college landscape.

It might not take 5 years.
He was talking about it 6 years before NIL became a thing. They are ok with student athletes making money off of their name, image, likeness. What they are opposed to is acquisition fees, and pay for play. You must lack comprehension to not understand this.
 
My understanding is that every player on the team would get a percentage of that $10 million through a revenue sharing program. NIL would be an opportunity for the individual stars to make more money on top of the revenue sharing.
I would say on paper that’s fair. But once you get involved with money it opens a Pandora’s box. ND and a few schools would split the NIL fairly within the rules. You’re gonna have those schools that are gonna mess around with the nil so they get more players. Unfortunately I think college football in the true amateur style is gone.
 
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My understanding is that every player on the team would get a percentage of that $10 million through a revenue sharing program. NIL would be an opportunity for the individual stars to make more money on top of the revenue sharing.
"My understanding is that every player on the team would get a percentage of that $10 million through a revenue sharing program"

But, of that "hypothetical" $10 mil -- remember, some of those proceeds go to funding the non-revenue sports that do not generate any revenue -- so, are you telling those non-revenue sports to pack their bags? Are you basically moving football to a professional model (and, what about the cost of the scholarship these kids have? does that get waxed in the revenue sharing model?)

ND football, while it is the cash cow of the school, does fund many non-revenue sports so that they are viable to compete. 100 or so football players are not sharing $10M --
 
"My understanding is that every player on the team would get a percentage of that $10 million through a revenue sharing program"

But, of that "hypothetical" $10 mil -- remember, some of those proceeds go to funding the non-revenue sports that do not generate any revenue -- so, are you telling those non-revenue sports to pack their bags? Are you basically moving football to a professional model (and, what about the cost of the scholarship these kids have? does that get waxed in the revenue sharing model?)

ND football, while it is the cash cow of the school, does fund many non-revenue sports so that they are viable to compete. 100 or so football players are not sharing $10M --
That wouldn’t be fair for the football team? NIL gets diluted if their supporting let’s say the swim team.
 
It’s not just the cash but the unlimited transfers & reclassifying also. Has anyone watched NCAA tournament. 23/24 year old players. I would venture to say some college bb teams are older than nba teams.
Agree with you, but we just took a 24 yr old qb. So everyone’s doing it and it’s pro ball minus long term contracts. Different world
 
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He was talking about it 6 years before NIL became a thing. They are ok with student athletes making money off of their name, image, likeness. What they are opposed to is acquisition fees, and pay for play. You must lack comprehension to not understand this.
Again...more childish gibberish.
I know exactly when he said it and just like the many sheep following whatever is trendy in politics you're buying it hook line and sinker.
6 years ago...he could say anything and did because guess what...
It didn't exist 6 years ago.

Moreover if he stated he doesn't believe the athlete's are entitled to $$$ even six years ago it's recruiting suicide.
Open mouth and insert foot.
Or rather on the recruiting trail remove weapon from holster and shoot thy foot.

ND hates the NIL but they can't say boo about it. ( see above)
Instead they'll play a charade game under the superficial facade of being pro NIL but there has to be a handle on it.
OK...we're not building rockets here. You either structure it or not.
Aahhh..but nobody wants to sound off publicly on that stance. That means less dolla bills for the masses. Meanwhile the game keeps rapidly trending to a rich of the riches and you'll have a handful of teams buying success...

THAT IS NOT what cillege athletics was ever about.
 
It’s not just the cash but the unlimited transfers & reclassifying also. Has anyone watched NCAA tournament. 23/24 year old players. I would venture to say some college bb teams are older than nba teams.
The free Covid year they gave all athletes is also a factor in that as well. That's why Hartman's still eligible.
 
Reading most social platforms or forums it is truly shocking how naive and poorly informed Americans are as to the state of the world, the nation, the invasion of our government and the complete disregard for our constitutional processes are.
By the time most Americans realize it, they will be 1st enslaved, and finally hiding behind rocks asking, ‘please fall on me’.
The above is not opinion but factual. Wait for it.
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