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I like that this guy has been with Urban Meyer and Dan Mullen

With that said: if we see a difference here is what it should look like.

By September, we should see the following
10-15 Muscle and explosiveness added to
Studstill

10 pds of muscle to EQ St.Brown- focus on lower body power. This kid is great and he was wearing down last year.

More power, better footwork and timing from McGlinchey
Addition of 10-15 pounds.

10-15 pounds lost and more quickness and agility from Q Nelson.

These would be my key individual objectives because these guys are ultra talented players that are difference makers and these should be your culture changers in the weight room. Leadership guys
 
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Yep and the fact the IMG coach is in also will be huge for recruiting in that area.
 
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I hope these guys are legit. If Notre Dame wants to compete and do things the right way they need to be ahead of training and development not behind.
I know they were recently touting GPS technology. I thought that was ground breaking until I was watching a SEC game where they said Texas A&M was doing that for years. Wonder if we were still behind?

Hopefully, the new staff has functional fitness, plyometrics, speed development. Every area of physical and nutritional performance covered. Guys that have trained under people like James Radcliffe at Oregon.

This year I talked to a former player during the Davie/ Ty time period that said he had zero speed training as a defensive back. We were laughing about it.

I said to him- no offense but you didn't even have a training table and I had to watch Bob Morton every week run out of the tunnel flexing like Hulk Hogan when he looked like Chris Farley. I use to go crazy on this board about that. Thank God they fixed that like 8 years later. Lol!

The point is: if ND wants to be ND. They better be the best at Performance development and not trying to catch up.

That's on the University.
 
I like that this guy has been with Urban Meyer and Dan Mullen

With that said: if we see a difference here is what it should look like.

By September, we should see the following
10-15 Muscle and explosiveness added to
Studstill

10 pds of muscle to EQ St.Brown- focus on lower body power. This kid is great and he was wearing down last year.

More power, better footwork and timing from McGlinchey
Addition of 10-15 pounds.

10-15 pounds lost and more quickness and agility from Q Nelson.

These would be my key individual objectives because these guys are ultra talented players that are difference makers and these should be your culture changers in the weight room. Leadership guys


and we hear the board is a bunch of wanna be coaches, yet you have excellent points! all of which ought to have been implemented way way back! so? are you smarter than a head coach?

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Look let's not pretend Kelly is uninvited to coaches clinics, meetings, phone calls, meetings, "ALL LINES OF COMMUNICATION! Has he upgraded things? Of course he has. Unfortunately, still behind the curve!

Here's an idea why not set up meetings with Urban, Dabo, and Saban's coaching staffs? Show some humility and find out how it's really done! I'm sorry fellas, we had every chance to be as successful as OSU this yr. We also had a better Qb, handcuffed by Kelly's poor management. Imo Ohio st. were the closest team to ND as far as lost impact players, filled in by young and inexperienced players.

With Elko I feel really confident in a much more fundamentally sound defense. If Kelly would just Humble himself? Not sure its possible? However it is necessary, I believe to be successful. If losing 4, possibly another in Gilmore, is'nt humbling? Don't know what is?
 
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Also to Zoro, can't vouche for the hires. Optimistic about it. The hire of Ballou in my opinion is a homerun!
1. He comes from IMG!
2. Have you seen the physiques of the kids at IMG?
3. He knows what it takes to keep young men in great shape/nutrition
4. Can't hurt to have a strength guy with ties to a top 3 team annually/pipeline if you will.
 
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Here is another question I have.
Fine- meals are served at the Gug

What is being done off campus for upperclassmen that live away from campus in terms of nutrition?

You know people aren't driving up there for one meal. Are they dependent on themselves? Does the team have to log nutrition on an App to make sure macros and calories are being hit?

You see the Showtime show in 2015 Sheldon day and crew at Costo shopping for their own food? "Why is that? "
Put the Honey Buns back". Funny scene. Good kids.

Who manages what's consumed off campus?
Deliver the food to guys who live off campus.
The new crew better come up with the best ways to optimize performance.

(Wrestling and combat- MMA/ striking would be a great thing to hear about as a conditioning component.
Wrestlers are in the best shape in the business. I think Urban brings his team onto the wrestling mat with the heat in the room cranking. Toughest team wins.

Bring in Navy seals/ Army Rangers for a few sessions.
Relentless effort to inspire the team.

This staff needs to create warriors. Watching the 30 for 30 and seeing Zorich and Wes Pritchett. Those dudes were nuts.
That needs to be created by the strength staff.
Honestly, if I heard about a few dust ups/ fights. during practices. That would make me happy.
Urban Meyer's first hire is strength team at every stop.
The importance of this can't be understated.

The university has to get performance right.
 
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well, I think all of what Z has pointed out hits on the different type of kid that shows up at ND.
Football is part of their life they play football while preparing for that '40 year decision'.
For kids at the pure football factories, they are playing football 'for their lives'.

I think recent news even supports this notion.

(Zorro: good points and good discussion)
 
Here is another question I have.
Fine- meals are served at the Gug

What is being done off campus for upperclassmen that live away from campus in terms of nutrition?

You know people aren't driving up there for one meal. Are they dependent on themselves? Does the team have to log nutrition on an App to make sure macros and calories are being hit?

You see the Showtime show in 2015 Sheldon day and crew at Costo shopping for their own food? "Why is that? "
Put the Honey Buns back". Funny scene. Good kids.

Who manages what's consumed off campus?
Deliver the food to guys who live off campus.
The new crew better come up with the best ways to optimize performance.

(Wrestling and combat- MMA/ striking would be a great thing to hear about as a conditioning component.
Wrestlers are in the best shape in the business. I think Urban brings his team onto the wrestling mat with the heat in the room cranking. Toughest team wins.

Bring in Navy seals/ Army Rangers for a few sessions.
Relentless effort to inspire the team.

This staff needs to create warriors. Watching the 30 for 30 and seeing Zorich and Wes Pritchett. Those dudes were nuts.
That needs to be created by the strength staff.
Honestly, if I heard about a few dust ups/ fights. during practices. That would make me happy.
Urban Meyer's first hire is strength team at every stop.
The importance of this can't be understated.

The university has to get performance right.
Amazingly good post. So few college coaches understand the toughness aspect and grind that comes from outworking everyone else. You have to be physically more dominating than your opponent. This is the reason for Harbaughs teams successes. They are literally outworking other teams in S&C. The way to do that is to push harder physically than what most coaches think is reasonable. When you're criticized for how hard you're working your players, like Harbaugh had been, you then know you're doing it different. Until then, we'll never compete with OSU. They're good not due to talent, but making that talent push beyond what most think humanly possible and then keep going. That's what makes a champion. Most only think they're reaching that level. Legendary coach and a Olympic champion Dan Gable would visualize his opponents outworking him. He'd have night terrors of this and do middle of the night workouts for years. This was after 8 hr per day workouts. Still to this day he is the only Olympic champion wrestler to not surrender a single point in the olympics. This kind of obsession is understood and talked about by the truly elite in all walks of life. Most of the worlds elite at anything simply obsessed more and took more action than everyone else. Talent meant little. This is how pro bowler and super bowl champion Stephen Neal was able to walk on to the Patriots football team without having played college football. The guy didn't know how to put his shoulder pads on, but he won the battle against the DL before he ever stepped foot on the field. He was so physically dominant from pushing himself further than what anyone else could understand other than a high level collegiate wrestler. This is the work that goes on that nobody sees. This is the effort that nobody praises. The effort that comes from blood, sweat, tears, and pain that others aren't experiencing.

The wrestling/mma comment is spot on. Unfortunately most coaches have never pushed to this limit themselves so training others to do so is impossible. Even those who disagree with these points aren't bad people, they're just ignorant to the experience and therefore they cannot relate.

**And a side note. To get young kids to buy into that kind of grind and torture, you have to have a deep rapport. Your players have to love you to push through that kind of mental and physical displeasure. They have to trust the process and not get discouraged when they don't see immediate results. They have to be willing to bleed and work past pain they never faced as high school athletes. They need a coach that can knock them down harder than they ever imagined possible, but lift them back up further than they were with a cult like atmosphere of love, trust, and brotherhood. This is what makes elite special forces great, And true champions great.
 
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Here is another question I have.
Fine- meals are served at the Gug

What is being done off campus for upperclassmen that live away from campus in terms of nutrition?



You know people aren't driving up there for one meal. Are they dependent on themselves? Does the team have to log nutrition on an App to make sure macros and calories are being hit?

You see the Showtime show in 2015 Sheldon day and crew at Costo shopping for their own food? "Why is that? "
Put the Honey Buns back". Funny scene. Good kids.

Who manages what's consumed off campus?
Deliver the food to guys who live off campus.
The new crew better come up with the best ways to optimize performance.

(Wrestling and combat- MMA/ striking would be a great thing to hear about as a conditioning component.
Wrestlers are in the best shape in the business. I think Urban brings his team onto the wrestling mat with the heat in the room cranking. Toughest team wins.

Bring in Navy seals/ Army Rangers for a few sessions.
Relentless effort to inspire the team.

This staff needs to create warriors. Watching the 30 for 30 and seeing Zorich and Wes Pritchett. Those dudes were nuts.
That needs to be created by the strength staff.
Honestly, if I heard about a few dust ups/ fights. during practices. That would make me happy.
Urban Meyer's first hire is strength team at every stop.
The importance of this can't be understated.

The university has to get performance right.
Valid points. However the team has had military type instruction the last 2 yrs. If i am not mistaken?
 
after looking at the recruiting classes the top teams, some on the ND schedules, as for national honors competition, ND has fallen far off the radar.

I can't help wonder what if! what if Jack had acted swiftly and named Sanford as HC. The guy is a recruiting fav among prospects and families.

ND now will be group B- for the forseeable future.
 
after looking at the recruiting classes the top teams, some on the ND schedules, as for national honors competition, ND has fallen far off the radar.

I can't help wonder what if! what if Jack had acted swiftly and named Sanford as HC. The guy is a recruiting fav among prospects and families.

ND now will be group B- for the forseeable future.
Sanford as ND head coach
Thanks for the comedy!
 
Sanford as ND head coach
Thanks for the comedy!
I assume you're reacting to Perse who insisted Jack, not Kelly, hired Sanford in the first place to be Kelly's replacement. We do know that Sanford was a good recruiter who resonated with young athletes and their families. We do know that he was widely credited with Kizer's success the year before last, but not credited with Kizer's lack of development this past season. We don't know much about his development and contributions at ND beyond these snippets. Would love to see him successful at his first HC stint, and return to ND as HC two or three years from now. Absent success as HC at a less stressful and visible program, there is zero reason to think he is ready to be HC at ND.
 
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Amazingly good post. So few college coaches understand the toughness aspect and grind that comes from outworking everyone else. You have to be physically more dominating than your opponent. This is the reason for Harbaughs teams successes. They are literally outworking other teams in S&C. The way to do that is to push harder physically than what most coaches think is reasonable. When you're criticized for how hard you're working your players, like Harbaugh had been, you then know you're doing it different. Until then, we'll never compete with OSU. They're good not due to talent, but making that talent push beyond what most think humanly possible and then keep going. That's what makes a champion. Most only think they're reaching that level. Legendary coach and a Olympic champion Dan Gable would visualize his opponents outworking him. He'd have night terrors of this and do middle of the night workouts for years. This was after 8 hr per day workouts. Still to this day he is the only Olympic champion wrestler to not surrender a single point in the olympics. This kind of obsession is understood and talked about by the truly elite in all walks of life. Most of the worlds elite at anything simply obsessed more and took more action than everyone else. Talent meant little. This is how pro bowler and super bowl champion Stephen Neal was able to walk on to the Patriots football team without having played college football. The guy didn't know how to put his shoulder pads on, but he won the battle against the DL before he ever stepped foot on the field. He was so physically dominant from pushing himself further than what anyone else could understand other than a high level collegiate wrestler. This is the work that goes on that nobody sees. This is the effort that nobody praises. The effort that comes from blood, sweat, tears, and pain that others aren't experiencing.

The wrestling/mma comment is spot on. Unfortunately most coaches have never pushed to this limit themselves so training others to do so is impossible. Even those who disagree with these points aren't bad people, they're just ignorant to the experience and therefore they cannot relate.

**And a side note. To get young kids to buy into that kind of grind and torture, you have to have a deep rapport. Your players have to love you to push through that kind of mental and physical displeasure. They have to trust the process and not get discouraged when they don't see immediate results. They have to be willing to bleed and work past pain they never faced as high school athletes. They need a coach that can knock them down harder than they ever imagined possible, but lift them back up further than they were with a cult like atmosphere of love, trust, and brotherhood. This is what makes elite special forces great, And true champions great.
Amazingly good post. So few college coaches understand the toughness aspect and grind that comes from outworking everyone else. You have to be physically more dominating than your opponent. This is the reason for Harbaughs teams successes. They are literally outworking other teams in S&C. The way to do that is to push harder physically than what most coaches think is reasonable. When you're criticized for how hard you're working your players, like Harbaugh had been, you then know you're doing it different. Until then, we'll never compete with OSU. They're good not due to talent, but making that talent push beyond what most think humanly possible and then keep going. That's what makes a champion. Most only think they're reaching that level. Legendary coach and a Olympic champion Dan Gable would visualize his opponents outworking him. He'd have night terrors of this and do middle of the night workouts for years. This was after 8 hr per day workouts. Still to this day he is the only Olympic champion wrestler to not surrender a single point in the olympics. This kind of obsession is understood and talked about by the truly elite in all walks of life. Most of the worlds elite at anything simply obsessed more and took more action than everyone else. Talent meant little. This is how pro bowler and super bowl champion Stephen Neal was able to walk on to the Patriots football team without having played college football. The guy didn't know how to put his shoulder pads on, but he won the battle against the DL before he ever stepped foot on the field. He was so physically dominant from pushing himself further than what anyone else could understand other than a high level collegiate wrestler. This is the work that goes on that nobody sees. This is the effort that nobody praises. The effort that comes from blood, sweat, tears, and pain that others aren't experiencing.

The wrestling/mma comment is spot on. Unfortunately most coaches have never pushed to this limit themselves so training others to do so is impossible. Even those who disagree with these points aren't bad people, they're just ignorant to the experience and therefore they cannot relate.

**And a side note. To get young kids to buy into that kind of grind and torture, you have to have a deep rapport. Your players have to love you to push through that kind of mental and physical displeasure. They have to trust the process and not get discouraged when they don't see immediate results. They have to be willing to bleed and work past pain they never faced as high school athletes. They need a coach that can knock them down harder than they ever imagined possible, but lift them back up further than they were with a cult like atmosphere of love, trust, and brotherhood. This is what makes elite special forces great, And true champions great.



Winning is a Decision. It comes down to relentless effort.
Relentless recruiting, relentless conditioning, relentlessness period.
 
All the new coaches with some street cred are much needed. Next up some ref crew changes.

Texas target. VA tech might as well handed them the W and the duke game. Don't forget FSU. The ACC seems to punish ND, it's in their best interest. The VA tech game sold me. The Cole like perfect coverage PI, the no call on St Brown and the two targeting.

Gotta fix that. Maybe pick up the MAC or Some crew that gets no benefit to ND losing.

Final puzzle piece.
 
All the new coaches with some street cred are much needed. Next up some ref crew changes.

Texas target. VA tech might as well handed them the W and the duke game. Don't forget FSU. The ACC seems to punish ND, it's in their best interest. The VA tech game sold me. The Cole like perfect coverage PI, the no call on St Brown and the two targeting.

Gotta fix that. Maybe pick up the MAC or Some crew that gets no benefit to ND losing.

Final puzzle piece.
I'm not quite there yet? But i agree, officiating was definitely not on our side. I thought around the 5th loss they would let up....nope.
 
Calls usually go both ways but the targeting is always 100% negative to ND.

I'd guess we dropped 3 games this year with these calls and that's not going both ways.

I wonder if ND makes a top bowl does the ACC rev share? If not, we have a huge issue when playing the ACC.

I like the MAC idea.
 
Not one to complain about officiating, nor think one conference of officials are biased one way or the other. I've changed my thinking on this over the past few years as the number of really poor calls at critical times by ACC officials seem to invariably go against ND. Not crazy about the MAC idea, as I think officials from the Big 10 or 12 would work just fine. Didn't we always use a Big 10 officials before affiliation with the ACC?
 
I believe so but the B10 and BCS and the $$$ we are talking about are too tempting to use anyone from the power 5 any longer. The FSU call, TX, VA Tech and more......like all modern sports the money is too great.
 
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