ND wins and they are in
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Uh, no. 1989 ND had three (USC, Pitt & Miami) top 10 opponents (when they played them) in the last 6 regular season games (& ranked PSU too).
And that doesn’t even include #1 Colorado in the bowl game.
This team may not have a single top 10 team in the final 6 regular season games.
I am seeing a ton of posts saying that. All I can say is the probability of the premise coming true is not high. It is possible though. It strikes me as similar to saying that before our first game. Yeah but it is not likely. It didn't happen.
Most importantly, I don't think we are one of the top 4 teams out there.
Our QB is not ready to execute the passing game to allow the running game to dominate every game.
Our receivers are a work in progress.
Our interior DL needs one more guy to keep them fresh for the game,
LBs have been good but I have bought into the belief some injury is keeping Morgan from wrapping up. Still, we have 4 guys who play well.
DBs are playing well I think but SC is rhe first game where I think they will be challenged.
I am playing Cassandra here a bit but we have a new OC and DC. It will take the whole year to really get an idea of what we are capable of and let polly in the parlor. Anything more than game by game for me is looking too far ahead.
Most importantly, I don't think we are one of the top 4 teams out there.
Our QB is not ready to execute the passing game to allow the running game to dominate every game.
Our receivers are a work in progress.
Our interior DL needs one more guy to keep them fresh for the game,
LBs have been good but I have bought into the belief some injury is keeping Morgan from wrapping up. Still, we have 4 guys who play well.
DBs are playing well I think but SC is rhe first game where I think they will be challenged.
I am playing Cassandra here a bit but we have a new OC and DC. It will take the whole year to really get an idea of what we are capable of and let polly in the parlor. Anything more than game by game for me is looking too far ahead.
Yeah we are good but can't beat Bana anyway so playoff smayoff. Just win and do your best. Keep improving.
Alabama and Georgia get into the playoff even after one of them is going to lose in the SECCG?? Not sure about that one.
Absolutely the both get in if one of them only has one loss especially if it’s bama
If ND wins out which is going to be tough UGSA would have defeated a playoff team but not in it themselves. Don’t see that happen
There is one poster on this board who is certain that the NCAA and ESPN are conspiring to have Bama and UGA in the playoffs, because this is what happens every year. (His words, not mine).
If they both go into that game 12-0, and the game is competitive, the loser of that game becomes #1 of the one loss teams vying for the playoff, IMHO. From ND's perspective it would be better if Bama lost the game, but in the south we call that Bama's mulligan. They seem to be able to stub their toe once and have everyone still believe they are the best team.
Um, yes it is. I'm more knowledgeable than you.
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I see your point, kind of, but I think I'd rather win a New Years Day bowl game than get spanked in the semifinals.
Is the goal to make the playoff or not ? There's no conference championship to win. Who wants to win miss congeniality ?
Sure it does. Getting blown out can hurt recruiting and ends the year on a sour note. Winning the Cotton or Orange Bowl on the other hand could add momentum. Where you are before your final game matters less than where you are AFTER your final game.
So the goal at the beginning of the season is a consolation prize ? That's a loser mentality. Maybe the men's hoop team would be better off in the NIT.
How in the world does making the playoff hurt recruiting ? That makes no sense.
Anyone with any sense would much rather be the team that made the playoff rather than one that didn't regardless of the outcomes.
Agree, I'd rather be playing for a chip than a trophy. If we lose it hurts the same to me.
But you aren't playing for a championship in this example. You were selected to play in the tournament and you ended up being embarrassed in the first round, vs. missing out but showing yourself to be a better team.
Well, we all wanted ND to get noticed by the talking heads and they are starting to get noticed. Herbie and Joey were discussing ND chances if they run the table and both agreed that they are a lock for the play-off, but, Galloway is not convinced that ND will run the table. Win Saturday and we live to be discussed another day. Lose, and ND will be relegated to spoiler.
Thats a moot point. You're in tbe playoffs which gives you a chance to win a chip. In all honesty I know we're not making the playoffs this year, however if I had a choice I would always take the opportunity to win a chip. That's why you play. If you're worried about wins and looking good let's schedule all sub division football teams and have a go.
That’s an opinion piece based off of regular season record, not rankings, idiot.
So the opponents record is more important than their ranking? So a 6-0 MAC team is better than a 5-1 SEC team?
That’s like saying if ND played undefeated FCS & Sunbelt/MAC/MWC opponents that is tougher than playing top 10 SEC/ACC/Big10 opponents. Lol.
Seriously, this has been duscussed on the big boy board & the BGI historian listed a top 5 list of tougher final 6 games in a season by current & final rankings.
So no, you are as knowledgeable as, well, I can’t think of anything less knowledgeable as you?
can't win a championship without being in the playoff. the outcome shouldn't be a part of the equation. if you're in it to win the championship then the playoff is the goal. the rest is crap.
Yes, BEFORE the post season results, it is better to be in the playoff. But in this example AFTER one team wins the Rose Bowl and the other gets blown out in the opening weekend of the playoff, where the two programs are at the END of their years has been reversed.
couldn't disagree more. making the playoff and losing is a much greater accomplishment than winning a lesser bowl game.
No not always. The difference between the 4th and 5th best teams (say a 11-1 ND and an 11-1 Auburn) can be infinitesimal. If ND is fifth best but blows out Ohio State in the non playoff Rose Bowl, and the 4th team is shut out in the first round of the playoff, ND would have accomplished MORE with their season. College football is not as simple as your black and white view.
However, the Rose Bowl is still a simple BUG vs PAC guarantee when not a playoff bowl.
thats your opinion. the playoff is the goal and has made the season much more "black and white ".
Our ultimate goal each year is to win the National Championship. That means making the playoffs, and that’s all I care about at this point. If we lose another regular season game or get passed over with our 11-1 record, then I care a great deal about playing and winning a major bowl.
NO always. I've been in the game my entire life. I could not imagine one coach that i know who would not prefer to make the playoff period. It's the ultimate goal. losing in the playoff is always better than winning a consolation bowl.
correct. of course you wan't to win every game you play. that said the playoff is the main objective.
You are arguing where you want to be before the bowls. YES, we agree.
AFTER the bowls though, a team can be higher ranked, have enjoyed a better year, have more momentum for the following year, etc etc, NOT making the playoffs and getting blown out and instead, crushing someone in a major bowl. Last year as an example, Ohio State made the playoff but had a WORSE post season than USC.
every coach would take getting blown out in a playoff game than winning a consolation game. yours is a loser mentality.
using that analogy every team that won their bowl game had a better post season than every team that lost theirs. i disagree. each team that made the playoff was more successful than every team that didn't. losing a game that matters is better than winning one that doesn't. ohio state didn't suffer one iota. you benefit much more from making the playoff and losing than you do winning a non playoff game. doesn't look like alabama suffered much from losing the championship game. was their post season worse than usc too ?
No. A team that wins the Rose or Orange or Cotton, ends up 12-1 and ranked third, has enjoyed a better season than a team that made the playoff, got blown out, ended the year 11-2 and ranked eighth.
Seems like a silly argument to be having. ND’s stated goal is to win the NC, not win a major bowl. The only way to win the NC is to be in the playoffs. Yes, it might feel better to win a major bowl than get blown out in a playoff game, but given our stated goal, being in the playoffs HAS to be preferred, regardless of the outcome.
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