ND payout

[Shakin' Down the Thunder]

By advancing to the semis, ND has now earned $14 million from the playoffs. And if ND advances to NC. They will have earned $20 million dollars and don't have to share a single penny with another university. Something tells me ND is gonna be just fine competing with the other schools and don't need to join a conference.

 

[savvyandsassier]

We're going to have a super league and then ND will definitely have to join a conference. So get effin' used to the idea.

 

[Shakin' Down the Thunder]

We're going to have a super league and then ND will definitely have to join a conference. So get effin' used to the idea.

Answer my questions. I told you which threads.

 

[savvyandsassier]

Answer my questions. I told you which threads.

Can you repeat the question, please? And you should heed my words about ND's future, or really CFB's future. Revenue sharing starts next year, and a super league is not far behind. The writing is scrawled all over the wall, sir. But you ain't listening, you never do....

 

[Golson5]

By advancing to the semis, ND has now earned $14 million from the playoffs. And if ND advances to NC. They will have earned $20 million dollars and don't have to share a single penny with another university. Something tells me ND is gonna be just fine competing with the other schools and don't need to join a conference.

I have been saying this forever

We don't need to join a conference. We don't have too job a conference. We don't want to join a conference.

 

[Holycrossover3]

Certainly nice to receive that money without having to share it. The BIG 10’s TV deal earns many of their schools $100M per year. ND receives approx $50M from NBC and $17M from the ACC deal. $67M in total. $87M and counting currently this year which is great but still behind the top schools in the major conferences.

I’m not convinced the delta there is worth it for ND to join a conference but certainly will get interesting if the BIG and SEC ever succeed from the NCAA.

 

[HDK]

This has been discussed forever. Some think ND will not have to join a conference; some think it will. I'm among the latter group. While I love the idea of ND playing a national schedule, I don't believe it will have a choice to stay independent within the next few years. College football will be a junior version of the NFL, with a northern conference and a southern conference. ND's clout is evaporating.

 

[Golson5]

This has been discussed forever. Some think ND will not have to join a conference; some think it will. I'm among the latter group. While I love the idea of ND playing a national schedule, I don't believe it will have a choice to stay independent within the next few years. College football will be a junior version of the NFL, with a northern conference and a southern conference. ND's clout is evaporating.

Lol

 

[chaseball]

This has been discussed forever. Some think ND will not have to join a conference; some think it will. I'm among the latter group. While I love the idea of ND playing a national schedule, I don't believe it will have a choice to stay independent within the next few years. College football will be a junior version of the NFL, with a northern conference and a southern conference. ND's clout is evaporating.

The big10 is already national. ND would be making more money, and playing a more competitive national schedule in the big10 right now.

I don't see any reason to stay independent. just join the big10 and get it over with already.

 

[Golson5]

The big10 is already national. ND would be making more money, and playing a more competitive national schedule in the big10 right now.

I don't see any reason to stay independent. just join the big10 and get it over with already.

Just so so stupid

And no. I mean Hell no

We don't want to be in the Big. Don't need to be. And aren't going to be

 

[HDK]

Lol

When it happens, bullshit artist that you are, you will claim that you saw it coming all along.

 

[THUNDERSTRUCK111]

Good
Now you have the money to pay our coaches so we don’t lose any of our coaches to “ a better paying job” Jmo.

 

[Shakin' Down the Thunder]

Can you repeat the question, please? And you should heed my words about ND's future, or really CFB's future. Revenue sharing starts next year, and a super league is not far behind. The writing is scrawled all over the wall, sir. But you ain't listening, you never do....

It's the Thursday night and Book v. Leonard thread. You know what the questions are.

Heed YOUR words? 😆 please...

 

[savvyandsassier]

Well I like to think that CFB will go to a full professional style, pro-standard revenue split, and will become, not a minor league sport, but a full on major league pro sport, which it always has been. The only way one could ever characterize it otherwise, is to cite the deliberate phony fiction of 'amateurism', which is bullshit, and is being legally and structurally dismantled, with the evil NCAA fighting it every step of the way, including this last ditch effort to get a antitrust exemption, I think, but maybe they've set theirs sights lower than that, I'm not a lawyer. An antitrust exception being a thing, a little legal creation where you get to break the law with the govt.'s special permission. Which the NCAA is quite okay with, being the criminal scumbags they are.

In any case, in that event, that of full professionalization, maybe it's not inevitable that ND will have to join a conference. There's so many unknowns, but all of those unknowns usually include super league scenarios. Especially considering the absolute shitshow of conference realignment, driven solely by economics. So it's not really the professionalization of players and their income considerations that will drive the change, it's the schools themselves, and their desire to make so much more, by having only like 40 teams, divvy up all the real money. But there's a lot of tradition in CFB so it's a touchy area. Who does and doesn't get to make that final cut. But ND certainly will, and finally they will be part of a football league, no longer unaffiliated and 'independent', and much to their chagrin!

 

[Chitown11]

ND will join a conference when they no longer can make as much $$$$$ as an Independent or the rules screw them out of Championships. Its as simple as that

 

[NotreDomer1]

Can you repeat the question, please? And you should heed my words about ND's future, or really CFB's future. Revenue sharing starts next year, and a super league is not far behind. The writing is scrawled all over the wall, sir. But you ain't listening, you never do....

You’re dickbait. Definitely not a ND fan. My guess: Paqui

 

[SubwaydomerDFW]

Within 10 years ND will be in a conference.

They're the hot girl at the dance they have no upside of joining prematurely they can sit back and watch the cards unfold with super leagues and TV deals etc but it's obvious we're headed to an AFC NFC type set up and will likely be spearheaded by the Big 10 / SEC as they're not going to make any moves that relinquish their profitability and dominance in the short term.

 

[Shakin' Down the Thunder]

Within 10 years ND will be in a conference.

They're the hot girl at the dance they have no upside of joining prematurely they can sit back and watch the cards unfold with super leagues and TV deals etc but it's obvious we're headed to an AFC NFC type set up and will likely be spearheaded by the Big 10 / SEC as they're not going to make any moves that relinquish their profitability and dominance in the short term.

Within 10 years? Didn't people say that 10 years ago? 20 years ago? 30 years ago?

 

[NDinNJ]

We're going to have a super league and then ND will definitely have to join a conference. So get effin' used to the idea.

IDIOT ALERT

 

[NDinNJ]

The big10 is already national. ND would be making more money.

50 million + 17 million, + 14 million to date = 81 million. If the beat pSU that total increases to 87 million.

Give up independence for a measly 5-10 million difference. No thanks

 

[deadirishpoet]

Can you repeat the question, please? And you should heed my words about ND's future, or really CFB's future. Revenue sharing starts next year, and a super league is not far behind. The writing is scrawled all over the wall, sir. But you ain't listening, you never do....

College football future lies with the universities not the players.
Players will come and go (some to many annually) Universities stay, and I assure you they will get this under control because as a collective .....they.....hold the power, and will bring order to this mess......yes "order".
Don't worry your Prima Donna's with still get a check, but it will come with conditions

 

[Shakin' Down the Thunder]

50 million + 17 million, + 14 million to date = 81 million. If the beat pSU that total increases to 87 million.

Give up independence for a measly 5-10 million difference. No thanks

I get the argument that you need money to be able to pay for coaches, facilities, support staff, resources, etc. But how much money for your football program do you actually need to be competitive? I would imagine once you get past a certain number say $20 million (wild guess) for a year, every dollar spent after that has a diminishing return.

 

[savvyandsassier]

College football future lies with the universities not the players.
Players will come and go (some to many annually) Universities stay, and I assure you they will get this under control because as a collective .....they.....hold the power, and will bring order to this mess......yes "order".
Don't worry your Prima Donna's with still get a check, but it will come with conditions

Well when the players eventually strike, we can put your intransigence to the test. Schools don't want that, it looks really tacky, makes them look really greedy, which is why they're trying to nip it in the bud and offer them a paltry 20% of the gross. But one thing the schools definitely want is elite level players. They're not going to lock them out and play walk on level players. Because that's what would be the end of CFB. And the end of all that money!

 

[Shakin' Down the Thunder]

50 million + 17 million, + 14 million to date = 81 million. If the beat pSU that total increases to 87 million.

Give up independence for a measly 5-10 million difference. No thanks

According to chatgpt I was way off on my $20 million guess. Here's what chatgpt has to say:

The annual budget for a major college football program to remain competitive can vary widely, but top-tier programs typically spend $50–$100 million or more per year. Here's a breakdown of key cost areas:


---

1. Coaching Salaries

Head Coach: $5–$12 million annually for elite coaches.

Assistant Coaches: $1–3 million per coach for coordinators; $500,000–$1 million for position coaches.

Support Staff: Analysts, recruiting coordinators, and operations staff can add several million.


2. Facilities and Infrastructure

Stadium Maintenance: Costs for upkeep, utilities, and staffing.

Training Facilities: Renovations, equipment, and sports science technology can total $10–30 million annually.

Locker Rooms: Luxury upgrades can run into the millions.


3. Recruiting

Travel Costs: Private jets, hotels, and meals for coaches scouting talent.

Recruiting Events: Hosting recruits on official visits, which include game-day experiences and perks.


4. Scholarships

Full-ride scholarships (tuition, housing, meals, books) for 85 scholarship players: $4–6 million annually.


5. Travel

Team Travel: Charter flights, hotels, and meals for away games can cost several million per season.

Staff and Band Travel: Additional travel costs for the marching band and support staff.


6. Marketing and Branding

Advertising, NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) support, and social media campaigns to attract recruits and fans.


7. Game-Day Operations

Security, staffing, concessions, and utilities for home games can cost $1–5 million per game.


8. NIL Support

Competitive programs often allocate resources to help players secure NIL deals, indirectly boosting recruiting.



---

Example Spending Levels:

Alabama (2022): ~$62 million.

Ohio State (2022): ~$65 million.

Texas A&M (2022): ~$70 million.


Key Drivers of Costs:

The push for top-tier facilities, highly paid coaching staffs, and competitive recruiting practices drives spending.

Programs that succeed in the College Football Playoff often spend on the higher end of the spectrum.

But to your point $87 million is more than enough to stay competitive.

 

[SubwaydomerDFW]

Within 10 years? Didn't people say that 10 years ago? 20 years ago? 30 years ago?

There's been enough realignment with conferences, playoffs, committees and etc we can all see the writing on the wall..

Well most of us anyways.

It could be 12 or even 15 but the blueprint for ND staying independent in football is looking more difficult.

Everything now is a money grab and the ultimate money grab will be a mega conference TV deal like the NFL.

The longer ND's anchor is tied to the ACC the more disparity will be between the Big10 and SEC and I think their grant of rights deal expires in 2036.

Forecasting a bit here... but The networks aren't going to fork out Big10 money for the ACC conference unless they can add some household names and it looks like two of their cornerstones are looking to get out.

 

[burmafrd1943]

ND will be getting at least $67 million a year without any bowl money.

And we will barring complete disaster getting Bowl Money each year

say it averages $75 million a year

That is plenty.

 

[Shakin' Down the Thunder]

There's been enough realignment with conferences, playoffs, committees and etc we can all see the writing on the wall..

Well most of us anyways.

It could be 12 or even 15 but the blueprint for ND staying independent in football is looking more difficult.

Everything now is a money grab and the ultimate money grab will be a mega conference TV deal like the NFL.

The longer ND's anchor is tied to the ACC the more disparity will be between the Big10 and SEC and I think their grant of rights deal expires in 2036.

Forecasting a bit here... but The networks aren't going to fork out Big10 money for the ACC conference unless they can add some household names and it looks like two of their cornerstones are looking to get out.

Again, I've heard that for years and ND is still independent.

 

[SubwaydomerDFW]

Again, I've heard that for years and ND is still independent.

You've been hearing about the NIL and TP and 12 team playoff and the mega team conferences?

I could have sworn this was the first year for most of that..

They're half in half out of the ACC. They're not truly independent.

They can't get revenue from another league now because of their ACC deal so joining a conference actually cost them money so of course they're not joining.

 

[burmafrd1943]

You've been hearing about the NIL and TP and 12 team playoff and the mega team conferences?

I could have sworn this was the first year for most of that..

They're half in half out of the ACC. They're not truly independent.

They can't get revenue from another league now because of their ACC deal so joining a conference actually cost them money so of course they're not joining.

Wah wah wah
bottom line there is no good reason.
people talking about a super conference do not understand it cannot happen. Too many teams.

 

[Shakin' Down the Thunder]

You've been hearing about the NIL and TP and 12 team playoff and the mega team conferences?

I could have sworn this was the first year for most of that..

They're half in half out of the ACC. They're not truly independent.

They can't get revenue from another league now because of their ACC deal so joining a conference actually cost them money so of course they're not joining.

Lol. You said nothing about NIL and 12 team playoffs in your previous post. Forecast all you want, but I find it incredibly arrogant of you to predict what will happen 12-15 years from now.

 

[savvyandsassier]

Lol. You said nothing about NIL and 12 team playoffs in your previous post. Forecast all you want, but I find it incredibly arrogant of you to predict what will happen 12-15 years from now.

Buddy, I hate to break it to you, but revenue sharing is starting NEXT YEAR. We've already experienced haphazard and basically chaotic conference realignment and disruption, purely for financial reasons. Money is talking very loudly and things are moving quickly. And you're talking about fifteen years from now, maybe. I don't really want ND to join a conference either, it just doesn't bother me, either way is good. But matters are going to come to a head a lot sooner than that.

 

[Golson5]

When it happens, bullshit artist that you are, you will claim that you saw it coming all along.

Yeah. I've been hearing it's coming for over 20 years now

🤣🤣🤣

 

[topset81]

Just so so stupid

And no. I mean Hell no

We don't want to be in the Big. Don't need to be. And aren't going to be

You scared?

 

[Shakin' Down the Thunder]

Buddy, I hate to break it to you, but revenue sharing is starting NEXT YEAR. We've already experienced haphazard and basically chaotic conference realignment and disruption, purely for financial reasons. Money is talking very loudly and things are moving quickly. And you're talking about fifteen years from now, maybe. I don't really want ND to join a conference either, it just doesn't bother me, either way is good. But matters are going to come to a head a lot sooner than that.

Answer my questions. I told you which threads.

 

[Pennick4]

The big10 is already national. ND would be making more money, and playing a more competitive national schedule in the big10 right now.

I don't see any reason to stay independent. just join the big10 and get it over with already.

Not surprised you have this take..😂

 

[Golson5]

You scared?

Terrified

🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

[Pennick4]

There's been enough realignment with conferences, playoffs, committees and etc we can all see the writing on the wall..

Well most of us anyways.

It could be 12 or even 15 but the blueprint for ND staying independent in football is looking more difficult.

Everything now is a money grab and the ultimate money grab will be a mega conference TV deal like the NFL.

The longer ND's anchor is tied to the ACC the more disparity will be between the Big10 and SEC and I think their grant of rights deal expires in 2036.

Forecasting a bit here... but The networks aren't going to fork out Big10 money for the ACC conference unless they can add some household names and it looks like two of their cornerstones are looking to get out.

Blah, blah blah

 

[Pennick4]

Within 10 years ND will be in a conference.

They're the hot girl at the dance they have no upside of joining prematurely they can sit back and watch the cards unfold with super leagues and TV deals etc but it's obvious we're headed to an AFC NFC type set up and will likely be spearheaded by the Big 10 / SEC as they're not going to make any moves that relinquish their profitability and dominance in the short term.

Pass the bong...you have had enough Cheech!

 

[NDinNJ]

According to chatgpt I was way off on my $20 million guess. Here's what chatgpt has to say:

The annual budget for a major college football program to remain competitive can vary widely, but top-tier programs typically spend $50–$100 million or more per year. Here's a breakdown of key cost areas:


---

1. Coaching Salaries

Head Coach: $5–$12 million annually for elite coaches.

Assistant Coaches: $1–3 million per coach for coordinators; $500,000–$1 million for position coaches.

Support Staff: Analysts, recruiting coordinators, and operations staff can add several million.


2. Facilities and Infrastructure

Stadium Maintenance: Costs for upkeep, utilities, and staffing.

Training Facilities: Renovations, equipment, and sports science technology can total $10–30 million annually.

Locker Rooms: Luxury upgrades can run into the millions.


3. Recruiting

Travel Costs: Private jets, hotels, and meals for coaches scouting talent.

Recruiting Events: Hosting recruits on official visits, which include game-day experiences and perks.


4. Scholarships

Full-ride scholarships (tuition, housing, meals, books) for 85 scholarship players: $4–6 million annually.


5. Travel

Team Travel: Charter flights, hotels, and meals for away games can cost several million per season.

Staff and Band Travel: Additional travel costs for the marching band and support staff.


6. Marketing and Branding

Advertising, NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) support, and social media campaigns to attract recruits and fans.


7. Game-Day Operations

Security, staffing, concessions, and utilities for home games can cost $1–5 million per game.


8. NIL Support

Competitive programs often allocate resources to help players secure NIL deals, indirectly boosting recruiting.



---

Example Spending Levels:

Alabama (2022): ~$62 million.

Ohio State (2022): ~$65 million.

Texas A&M (2022): ~$70 million.


Key Drivers of Costs:

The push for top-tier facilities, highly paid coaching staffs, and competitive recruiting practices drives spending.

Programs that succeed in the College Football Playoff often spend on the higher end of the spectrum.

But to your point $87 million is more than enough to stay competitive.

Plus ND gets significant donations to pay for those projects like facility upgrades.

 

[NDgreatestofalltime!]

Wah wah wah
bottom line there is no good reason.
people talking about a super conference do not understand it cannot happen. Too many teams.

I disagree here, they will have two 32-34 team conferences like the AFC/NFC at some point in the not so distant future.

I have listened to coaches like Saban and Meyer talk about this for a decade and they’ve been very accurate on where it was going, so I tend to think they’ll be right on this as well.

Don’t be shocked if Saban is the head of the entire thing within a few years from now.