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Let's hope USC doesn't nab....

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Sean Payton who apparently has expressed an interest in the job.

He could be another Pete Carroll impact for them as a guy who can flat out coach and would also push the realm of what is acceptable.

Hopefully they promote the current interim coach as Kelly will have enough trouble competing with Meyer and Harbaugh in the Midwest and doesn't need U$C becoming a power again.
 
Sean Payton who apparently has expressed an interest in the job.

He could be another Pete Carroll impact for them as a guy who can flat out coach and would also push the realm of what is acceptable.

Hopefully they promote the current interim coach as Kelly will have enough trouble competing with Meyer and Harbaugh in the Midwest and doesn't need U$C becoming a power again.
USC has the best offensive play makers in the country now - Peyton cannot improve on that no way
 
I think that SC is primed for the 'impact' hire this time! That is why ladt night was a big opportunity to get a W against them.

SC fans are going to demand a real HC.
 
USC won't go after him, but Justin Fuente will be one of the hottest coaches on the market. What he has done at Memphis is a miracle. He just beat Ole Miss with a host of walk-ons. Toledo's coach and Temple's coach will also be hot items. SC will probably go after a bigger name. How about AL's OC? :)
 
Peyton might be a pipe dream , but Chip Kelly and Jack Del Rio are not. But reality is just a decent/good coach like Kyle Whittingham ( most likely ) will do. SC will always have talent , just cannot have low life losers like Kiffin and Sarkisian. You guys know his when you had Weis and he couldn't even get 1st downs vs SC ( 2007 and 2008 ) while going 0-4, it sucks but you just ride it out and hope the brass figures it out. USC has no choice this time , and by firing Suckisian for cause, they have 12 mil more to give to the next staff.
 
^ with the right coach, SC is almost unbeatable a/c of recruiting potential.
Tell that to Ohio State Notre Dame - Alabama - Baylor - LSU and twenty other schools

BTW nit wit I thought it was all about coaching not players - hey nit wit how can an incompetent coach like Brian Kelly w-o the recruiting resume of a USC beat them 4 out of 6 yrs ??

Just answer me that rin tin tin
 
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I like Sean Payton, but he might end up more like Charlie Weis. Succeeding in college is different than in the NFL.

You never know until they show up and try to do it.
 
The area around USC's campus today is dramatically better than a few decades ago. The campus is beautiful and near a ton of urban activities and not far from the Pacific. Definitely a net positive, not a net negative.
 
I agree about USC "potentially" being unbeatable. They are literally 1 of a very select few that could possible survive the back to back to back of 30 lost schollies, Lane Kiffin & Sark and still field a very viable team. Imagine if they get a good coach in there again.
 
Actually Pers, USC's campus is in a rough area. Now UCLA in Beverly Hills, now that's a beautiful campus.


yea, but SC is close to the Hollywood crowd. Sun, fun, freebies, models +
And damn Ca. is beautiful up n down the coast!
 
^ true, they often self destruct The attractions and advantages actually become too much of a good thing.
 
The area around USC's campus today is dramatically better than a few decades ago. The campus is beautiful and near a ton of urban activities and not far from the Pacific. Definitely a net positive, not a net negative.
True and the campus is actually safer than UCLA which is on the list of most dangerous. SC is not. Times change. UCLA is in Westwood by the way. not Beverly Hills. Although it is close.
 
They need a hipster HC who is willing to play the Hollywood angle and also be willing to go against every fiber of what you believe is right by having hangers on like Snoop Dog around at practices and on the sidelines and put on the happy face when OJ is released and comes calling on your practice one day. That's the USC model for a HC as developed successfully by their legend Pete Carroll. That's what fans and alums want desperately to re-create. Anybody in that bunch of potential candidates fit that criteria?
 
True and the campus is actually safer than UCLA which is on the list of most dangerous. SC is not. Times change. UCLA is in Westwood by the way. not Beverly Hills. Although it is close.
Check the housing values in Westwood vs South Central and tell me UOJ is in a safer neighborhood. The crime stats in Westwood are higher only because people actually call the the police to report crime there.
 
Check the housing values in Westwood vs South Central and tell me UOJ is in a safer neighborhood. The crime stats in Westwood are higher only because people actually call the the police to report crime there.
And..... BOOM goes the dynamite!!!
 
The area around USC's campus today is dramatically better than a few decades ago. The campus is beautiful and near a ton of urban activities and not far from the Pacific. Definitely a net positive, not a net negative.
????????????:rolleyes:o_O??????????????
 
Check the housing values in Westwood vs South Central and tell me UOJ is in a safer neighborhood. The crime stats in Westwood are higher only because people actually call the the police to report crime there.
Its not in a safer neighborhood its a safer campus. Area is important for safety, so is security.

As you may know the government keeps safety information for any school, public or private that accepts governement money. But....they may not use housing prices to make their determinations. Perhaps you should tell them about your idea.


http://www.businessinsider.com/most-dangerous-colleges-in-america-2012-11

And then there this:
http://crimewatchdaily.com/2015/09/02/10-most-dangerous-campuses-in-america/

But once again this report doesn't use housing prices as the guide. In fact I couldn't find a study that did, so perhaps you won't accept these. But as to "campus safety" SC is much safer.
 
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True and the campus is actually safer than UCLA which is on the list of most dangerous. SC is not. Times change. UCLA is in Westwood by the way. not Beverly Hills. Although it is close.
Bordered by Brentwood you forgot to mention. And they have even said the statistics on UCLA being less safe are skewed. Westwood Village incidents get included and that is a happening weekend place. I live in SOCAL, been to both places often. Gameday experience at UCLA is way nicer but that's because it's in Pasadena not South Central. USC campus might be safer but it is also way more closed off than UCLA is. My buddy played at USC and was on the practice field during the infamous stray bullet incident where a player was hit and they all dove under sleds, bags, trainer carts, whatever they could find.
 
Bordered by Brentwood you forgot to mention. And they have even said the statistics on UCLA being less safe are skewed. Westwood Village incidents get included and that is a happening weekend place. I live in SOCAL, been to both places often. Gameday experience at UCLA is way nicer but that's because it's in Pasadena not South Central. USC campus might be safer but it is also way more closed off than UCLA is. My buddy played at USC and was on the practice field during the infamous stray bullet incident where a player was hit and they all dove under sleds, bags, trainer carts, whatever they could find.

so... UCLA is rated most dangerous and SC isn't even on the list but you theory is UCLA is safer because it is less closed off and that the FBI doesn't understand crime statistics? Well....OK. It is true that the areas close to USC are more dangerous than UCLA. But the students rarely need to go into adjoining residential areas. The Fig -sdie from SC to the Staples Center is fine. The Vermont side can be dicey but SC is currently building a 600 million develop there which will change that. The bottom line is that if you are honest and trying to determine which campus is safer it is SC b y a mile. You can try to come up with anecdotal theories to fit into your desires, but facts are facts.

In short if you want to know where your kid is safer at school, the answer is USC. If you want to know where your kid is safer if he or she ventures into adjoining housing areas, the answer is UCLA.
 
It doesn't matter who USC nabs. Sooner or later some kind of drama will rear its ugly head. With all that incredible talent, it's a shame.
 
so... UCLA is rated most dangerous and SC isn't even on the list but you theory is UCLA is safer because it is less closed off and that the FBI doesn't understand crime statistics? Well....OK. It is true that the areas close to USC are more dangerous than UCLA. But the students rarely need to go into adjoining residential areas. The Fig -sdie from SC to the Staples Center is fine. The Vermont side can be dicey but SC is currently building a 600 million develop there which will change that. The bottom line is that if you are honest and trying to determine which campus is safer it is SC b y a mile. You can try to come up with anecdotal theories to fit into your desires, but facts are facts.

In short if you want to know where your kid is safer at school, the answer is USC. If you want to know where your kid is safer if he or she ventures into adjoining housing areas, the answer is UCLA.
The fact is UOJ is a private institution and doesnt report its crime statistics or hides them. Anyone who knows LA knows UCLA is a safer place than UOJ.
 
The fact is UOJ is a private institution and doesn't report its crime statistics or hides them. Anyone who knows LA knows UCLA is a safer place than UOJ.

Not true. Statistics have to be reported by any school that accepts federal money or grants. Even if one student gets federal aide they must report. You'll notice several private schools *Vanderbilt, Duke and Stanford) on of the two lists I posted. When you go to the 'everybody knows "card, you should just quit.

One example of the requirement is he Jeanne Clery Act, a consumer protection law passed in 1990, whcih requires all colleges and universities who receive federal funding to share information about crime on campus and their efforts to improve campus safety as well as inform the public of crime in or around campus. But probably everybody knows that. There are other requirements as well.
 
Beach...do you remember the days where the only place to park was on some local resident's front yard dirt, and hope your car was still there when you returned after the game? The only comfort walking back after games was being among thousands of like minded fans, otherwise the neighborhoods were no place to be found walking. Remarkably different today with shifting demographics and massive infusion of money for development vis a vis The Staples Center. I expect most recruits would be turned on by the experience and location.
 
The fact that Notre Dame's name was even mentioned in the same sentence as Snoop is a major embarrassment. Having that guy work the sideline would have been the worst image to shine a spotlight on to the players and students. Yet, interestingly enough, USC and UCLA had no problem with it. Go figure.
 
I like Sean Payton, but he might end up more like Charlie Weis. Succeeding in college is different than in the NFL.

You never know until they show up and try to do it.


MT,

Great post. Until they do it don't worry. The guy to worry about is Tom Herman at Houston. Coaching star of the future.
 
MT,

Great post. Until they do it don't worry. The guy to worry about is Tom Herman at Houston. Coaching star of the future.
He may be it but Haden will try to hire a "name" this time around. Whether he can or not is the question.
 
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