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Kizer - Quick kick

DOMER1964

Shakes Down The Thunder
Nov 6, 2011
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I don't know if anyone has mentioned it yet, but I think that one of the most important strategies put in place during the game, yet subtle in essence was the quick-kick relative to the special teams and Kizer. That kept the ball out of the hands of A. Jackson and those speed merchants (Brilliant move)! Go Irish!!!!!!
 
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I like it. Kizer is good at it AND now that it is shown on tape it can set up fakes in the future. I can see it now - Kizer gets back into quick-kick formation and tosses an easy pitch-and-catch completion for a clutch first down.
 
when you said "relative to..." i almost wanted to respond, "brian kelly is that you?" If i was to do an impression every answer would include the phrase "relative to..." in it.

also i agree, it was a nice wrinkle added in to help out w/ Jackson. But i disagree on it leading to a fake. could it happen? sure, but i think most of the time, teams play to defend a fake in those scenarios not to cover the kick.
 
it was a good call; but the position on the field was such that the ND pounter should have been able to reach the EZ. I think the ball went out inside the 20 tho.
 
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Kudos to BK & staff!!!! Liked Kizer and future fakes......and punt block.....and return reverses/fakes. Also fake FG earlier in season. Great!!!
 
It's was a great coaching nuance. You could argue UM should have employed it on that bungled punt. Tell the kid if you bobble it throw it up like a long punt, otherwise pooch it down. I don't see enough criticism of harbaugh as I expected for putting the punt team out there with 9 seconds left.
 
It's was a great coaching nuance. You could argue UM should have employed it on that bungled punt. Tell the kid if you bobble it throw it up like a long punt, otherwise pooch it down. I don't see enough criticism of harbaugh as I expected for putting the punt team out there with 9 seconds left.
For Christ's sake, Harbaugh had nothing to do with that play!! Zero!!
As D1 college athletes, if you can't execute a standard punt, you don't deserve to win.

Of course you punt the ball in that situation. But shit happens, and the punter dropped the ball.
Happens once every couple hundred punt attempts.
 
For Christ's sake, Harbaugh had nothing to do with that play!! Zero!!
As D1 college athletes, if you can't execute a standard punt, you don't deserve to win.

Of course you punt the ball in that situation. But shit happens, and the punter dropped the ball.
Happens once every couple hundred punt attempts.
Not true. Good coaches always advice kids and have contingencies and have their kids prepared. This is no different than telling a kid "you can't take a sack." I'll never know what harbaugh said but among what would be on my list that I'd say to the punter is "if the snap is bungled, just fall in it." He didn't act as if someone just told him to fall on it, it looks like he tried to run then tried to kick it in the midst of a hard punt rush. I get the kid panicked but in my experience as a coach, most of the time when you tell a kid right before a play, "hey just fall on it" that's what they do.

Also, the pooch by the qb isn't some new thing, and would present an option with even less risk then straight punting it (shorter snap, more experienced person handling he ball, particlularly if something goes awry). You prep the qb by saying "in these scenarios if something goes awry, don't try and punt it, we'll have two guys running routes, throw it up and so what if they pick it off, that works as a punt. "

People never seem to acknowledge how bad college special teams are, nor how risky just the long snap is in that situation, knowing msu is coming for it. Plus You can say they practice the standard punt team more but most staffs don't have a dedicated st coach- I mean punts blocked cost teams every week in college including USC. Good coaches should always be thinking risk aversion or reduction. Plus as a coach, you can't really be caught in a position to say "eh shit happens."

Frankly you could argue that you just run a play and force a Hail Mary. I'm not as big on that but even with the few successful Hail Marys this year, that seems far less likely then blocked punts, which statistically I'd bet happens far more than successful Hail Marys.
 
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I thought the quick kicks were a great strategy to limit the number of touches their returner would get.
 
I understand that Kelly said Kizer punted in HS and was pretty good at it.

What we saw Saturday wasn't a real quick kick, more of a punt from the QB … if u$c put their punt return team in, then Kizer might have actually run an offense play against them, since they didn't he backed up and punted.

Brilliant move nevertheless.
 
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