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he said after his recent official to the banquet weekend that our irish were now in his top two but insiders at the time though didn't know who the other team is. a Rutgers insider who writes on ruttgers recruiting said also recently that his sources told him that fuller basically hated his irish visit but I've learned over the years that some of these guys that get paid to write about a certain school can be real homers and give out false info and I take what the Rutgers writer says with a grain of salt
Can't imagine how C.Kelly and his mother had a tremendous visit to ND and on the other hand Fuller wasn't thrilled by his Irish visit . But this is Rutgers or a Rutgers site and Fuller is not going to Rutgers who is having a difficult time keeping top talent in state
It happens...and it happens at all schools. You are dealing with a wide range of personalities and we are talking teenagers. The same approach doesn't work for everyone...and while schools do tailor their approach for many kids it is still a lot of guess work on the programs part...especially earlier in the process if they haven't had a chance to get to know a kid as well as they could.
BTW...one of my favorite recruiting stories of all time. Years ago there was an a 4* top 100 OL committed to Minnesota. Kid verballed early and didn't waiver once even with a ton of major schools coming after him...well..until he took his official visit. A bunch of Minny players tried to get the recruits drunk and took them to strip club. However, this one particular recruit was extremely religious and from a quite conservative household. He decommitted the very next morning.
his brother played at ucla and so that is probably the reason he has them on his list. don't know if we get him or Kelly but I think we get Jonathon jones from florida over Michigan. coach denson has built a really tight relationship with Jonathon's dad from what I've read and plus his dad really like notre dame right now
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it won't be a big deal TDirish27 if we don't get gary because our irish lead for 2017 4 star NV DT Haskell Garrett who is rated one of the top ten DTs in the country. Haskell who is a Sheldon day clone at 6-2 280 calls notre dame his dream school and says if he really likes his junior day visit then he could give our irish a verbal. he has former high school teammates on the irish roster that he is close friends with which helps our irish. would love to get gary but getting Haskell will take away any sting from not getting gary
Gary is cutting the best deal he can. He wont leave Aub without at least $200 grand on the table and an autograph deal. Momma's gettin a new job and house.
This must be one of those situations where both sides are hearing what they want to hear because the Michigan folks are confident on where they stand with Jones...to be clear I'm not saying lock or anything...just confident
It's down to ND/Michigan. Both schools are in good spots
From what we've heard, the parents now favor ND but Jones is pretty much "truly 50/50 right now" and that he really likes Harbaugh
I could definitely see Jones ending up at either UM or ND, as both have tons of PT to offer, both are good fits, etc.
this was correct but Fuller now to visit UM on 1/22. Will choose between OSU, PSU, ND and UM.
I've read in the past couple days somewhere that they think Jones is a ND lean now. As for Fuller, I think its wide open at this point.
Guys we may lead for:
WR - Javon McKinley (4* Top100)
LB - Jonathan Jones (4* Unranked)
Guys we have a decent shot at:
ATH - Demitris Robertson (5*)
LB - Caleb Kelly (5*)
LB - Ben Davis (5*)
LB - Jeffery McCulloch (4* Top100)
DB - Jordan Fuller (4* Top150)
WR - Damien Alloway (4* Top150)
If we get the 2 from the top group and 1-2 from the bottom group, I'd be thrilled with the close to recruiting
WR - Javon McKinley (4* Top100)
LB - Jonathan Jones (4* Unranked)
Guys we have a decent shot at:
ATH - Demitris Robertson (5*)
LB - Caleb Kelly (5*)
LB - Ben Davis (5*)
LB - Jeffery McCulloch (4* Top100)
DB - Jordan Fuller (4* Top150)
WR - Damien Alloway (4* Top150)
If we get the 2 from the top group and 1-2 from the bottom group, I'd be thrilled with the close to recruiting
agree about the guys we lead for
would change the rest to:
Decent shot -
C. Kelly, J McCulloch, Fuller, Alloway
Long shot-
Robertson, Davis
Davis sounds like more than a long shot, but Robinson says things that sound as though his interest is genuine. Seems like we usually enter this time of year with lots of optimism about ND leans by several high targets, only to be disappointed. Seems like suggested locks and leans have become fifty fifty with guys like Jones, and maybe even less so with McCulloch and Kelly. would take Deckers wish list in a heartbeat.
B. Davis is not committing to ND .I know he is suppose to visit ,but that could change .As far as Caleb Kelly (considered a lock for Oklahoma ) , Just wonder what he thought after Clemson scored 21 unanswered points in second half .I know we didn't do much better , but it still gives him so food for thought..
Gary is also visiting ,but also could change . J.McCulloch according to some scouting services has Texas in the lead and J. Fuller also now supposedly has Ohio State as his top choice .
I agree with the posts that we have a good shot at getting J.McKinley and J.Jones. And # 5 D. Robertson is a little bit of a mystery as to his college choice ,
Gary is also visiting ,but also could change . J.McCulloch according to some scouting services has Texas in the lead and J. Fuller also now supposedly has Ohio State as his top choice .
I agree with the posts that we have a good shot at getting J.McKinley and J.Jones. And # 5 D. Robertson is a little bit of a mystery as to his college choice ,
yep: at this time in the process, ND D is not trending for '16 or '17
if ND can't up it's defensive recruiting then the question becomes 'why'?
if ND can't up it's defensive recruiting then the question becomes 'why'?
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I'm not sure I would agree with that
If we can add Jonathan Jones and 1 of McCulloch, Kelly, or Davis...I'd be very pleased with this defensive class
The only thing missing would be a "Elite, Immediate Impact DE", as we have solid DE, would be very good to great at LB, and would be vrey good to great at DB
our irish have made there defense a little better on paper pers by adding a big time 4 star DE from Michigan that just dominated his all- star game last weekend and plus they have espn's top rated DE for the 2017 class in five star Robert beal. I read that Robert beal and another player rated as the two best juniors last weekend at the under armour game in the juniors combine that they do for the top juniors that are invited. read also that insiders that watched the combine were raving about Robert beal's speed off the edge and the power that he had also
Why do you guys always think a defensive recruit is gonna be put off by a bad defensive effort? These kids want to play right away. I see garbage at a school I like and I'm in. If I'm a LB, I think I can start come September.
He's pretty solidly committed with family in the areas and ties to the school
He's a 17 year old over a year from signing day, so anything can happen
But he's a solid commit
Disagree w/ some of this. C Kelly MAY have been an Oklahoma lock, but ever since his trip its sounded in interviews and on his twitter that he LOVED ND. Plus he has been getting closer w/ Javon McKinley recently so I don't know if he ends up at ND, but to write us off is ridiculous. And on McCulloch, some services may say that, but I saw on irishenvy a poster that usually is pretty well connected say he thinks ND has a slight lead right now, but he's still visiting Texas coming up. And I don't know anywhere where Fuller has declared OSU his leader. Some writer put a crystal ball in for them today I think but I haven't heard anything. all I've ever read was ND was in his top 2. and yes, Robertson, who knows.
4 weeks to NLI's are sent in.
ND defensive targets are not trending favorably. I hope the is not ND's version of 'Wipeout'! The Defense needs a real talent infusion! Else: wysiwyg going forward!
ND defensive targets are not trending favorably. I hope the is not ND's version of 'Wipeout'! The Defense needs a real talent infusion! Else: wysiwyg going forward!
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I'm not sure this is true at all
It seems like we've trended positively for most defensive targets
Jonathan Jones - Sounds like we lead now, may even be a silent commit
Jeffery McCulloch - Sounds like we're in the Top2 (with Texas), may be the leader or may be #2...Stanford is a wildcard
Caleb Kelly - Sounds like we're in the Top2 (with Oklahoma), great trend considering he sounded like a longshot before
Ben Davis - Has confirmed he's visiting
Those are all positive trends with out defensive recruits
Hard to say if we'll land 0,1, or 2.....but things are going well there (for now) considering where things were previously with many of these guys
Unless McCulloch is dead set on staying in Texas I hope he looks at the situation with Strong and sees what a dumpster fire it is down there. He may be/most likely be playing for another head coach after his freshman year if he chooses Texas.
Davis is a tough one - Bama legacy, and Bama has put LBs in the NFL like no one else the last few years -tough to beat that combo. Lets home he wants to build his own legacy at ND.
Kelly - can't compare OU graduation rates and education. If he truly wants to focus on a school with great academics, he will be Irish. If he chooses OU, all the academic talk was just that.
Davis is a tough one - Bama legacy, and Bama has put LBs in the NFL like no one else the last few years -tough to beat that combo. Lets home he wants to build his own legacy at ND.
Kelly - can't compare OU graduation rates and education. If he truly wants to focus on a school with great academics, he will be Irish. If he chooses OU, all the academic talk was just that.
Davis is a tough one - Bama legacy, and Bama has put LBs in the NFL like no one else the last few years -tough to beat that combo. Lets home he wants to build his own legacy at ND.
I see maybe a 5% chance at best that we land Davis. He will stay in SEC-land.
Kelly - can't compare OU graduation rates and education. If he truly wants to focus on a school with great academics, he will be Irish. If he chooses OU, all the academic talk was just that.
Agree 100%. No black kid who is truly interested in the academic side chooses Oklahoma over ND. Oklahoma's graduation rate for black kids is atrocious.
I see maybe a 5% chance at best that we land Davis. He will stay in SEC-land.
Kelly - can't compare OU graduation rates and education. If he truly wants to focus on a school with great academics, he will be Irish. If he chooses OU, all the academic talk was just that.
Agree 100%. No black kid who is truly interested in the academic side chooses Oklahoma over ND. Oklahoma's graduation rate for black kids is atrocious.
I like our chances with Davis if he visits. His Dad visited ND when he was being recruited and while I have zero knowledge of his life after football I think any smart father while understanding the good old boys in the south will take care of you may look at things a little different and understand injuries and short playing careers can and do happen and perhaps an education and let the corporate ND world take care of you instead.
problem with davis' visit is they are basically saying next week will be the worst weather of the year in south bend so far. early in the week snow and wind chills well below zero. by next weekend I'm not sure hope it moderates a little.....or a lot. and his dad has been openly quoted as saying he hopes his son goes to bama.
On Kelly, he did an interview w/ someone today where he was quoted as saying that Oklahoma and ND were basically even. Now he could be playing it up to hype his decision, but I think he truly is torn right now.
On Kelly, he did an interview w/ someone today where he was quoted as saying that Oklahoma and ND were basically even. Now he could be playing it up to hype his decision, but I think he truly is torn right now.
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Robertson too
Based on conversations with Demitirs Robertson (5*, #1 ATH in 2016 Class) the mods for this site believe that it's an ND, Bama, Stanford battle....in that order
(Georgia is a factor, but they seem to think Georgia is fading, especially with the family)
They went as far as saying that because he hasn't been admitted to Stanford, which is damaging the relationship and "fit" and because he decommitted from Alabama already and is very serious about education (as is his family)....that if NSD was today, they think ND would be the pick
Hard to say how a major recruitment like this ends up......but it sounds like we have a real shot at Robertson
Based on conversations with Demitirs Robertson (5*, #1 ATH in 2016 Class) the mods for this site believe that it's an ND, Bama, Stanford battle....in that order
(Georgia is a factor, but they seem to think Georgia is fading, especially with the family)
They went as far as saying that because he hasn't been admitted to Stanford, which is damaging the relationship and "fit" and because he decommitted from Alabama already and is very serious about education (as is his family)....that if NSD was today, they think ND would be the pick
Hard to say how a major recruitment like this ends up......but it sounds like we have a real shot at Robertson
hope your right and your info is good.
I Was resding stuff on 247.
And yup, long time to go for him.
But any good player intent on graduating will do so from Oklahoma. There are many reasons for a failure to graduate and they are not all because of poor guidance by the school. How much of Oklahoma's poor graduation rate is on the players who did not work sufficiently well on course work. That also takes commitment.
The difference is at Notre Dame you graduate with a real education because you had to do the work. Yes you will get lots of help but you have to show up to class and do the work. At Oklahoma of course you can get a good education but it is easier to slip through the cracks.
