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Jimmy Clausen starting today

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... for the Ravens. Didn't even know they had picked him up. He's facing his old nemesis, Pete Carroll, and the Seahawks. Not an easy assignment. 7-0 Seattle right now. Clausen's actually playing decently so far, 10/15 for 120 yds.
 
Not a good day for Jimmy. 23 of 40 and a pick and no TD's. Blown out 35-6.

Well, it was a tough assignment, like I said. He threw for 274 yds.

Ironically, Jimmy's started twice this year - once for the Bears, once for the Ravens. Both games were against the Seahawks. He lost 26-0 and 35-6.
 
I was very wrong about JC in the NFL. He's not any good and most times he plays his team loses and its not even close. How wrong was I? I remember when Carolina drafted Cam and I was like "what are you doing? You have a QB, get something around him". Haha
 
I was very wrong about JC in the NFL. He's not any good and most times he plays his team loses and its not even close. How wrong was I? I remember when Carolina drafted Cam and I was like "what are you doing? You have a QB, get something around him". Haha

I remember arguing with another Irish fan on here. he was saying Clausen was going to be better than Big Ben of my Steelers. I told him he was crazy. I never thought he would be a good pro. Brady Quinn was a better ND qb than Clausen. and look what happened to him on the nfl level.

the nfl is a different animal. and is littered with the carcasses of college football factory players who were great while playing in college. but couldn't get better to compete with the big boys in the nfl.
 
I remember arguing with another Irish fan on here. he was saying Clausen was going to be better than Big Ben of my Steelers. I told him he was crazy. I never thought he would be a good pro. Brady Quinn was a better ND qb than Clausen. and look what happened to him on the nfl level.

the nfl is a different animal. and is littered with the carcasses of college football factory players who were great while playing in college. but couldn't get better to compete with the big boys in the nfl.
some guys peak in college. that appears to be the case for both clausen and quinn. a back up gig is nice money. not gonna make that in the private sector.
 
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I remember arguing with another Irish fan on here. he was saying Clausen was going to be better than Big Ben of my Steelers. I told him he was crazy. I never thought he would be a good pro. Brady Quinn was a better ND qb than Clausen. and look what happened to him on the nfl level.

the nfl is a different animal. and is littered with the carcasses of college football factory players who were great while playing in college. but couldn't get better to compete with the big boys in the nfl.
His highpoint came when he took the Limo to the CFB HOF to say he would win 4 NC's at ND. That and his swimsuit photo - he took a first round TKO in that bar fight.
 
All the comments pro or con on Clausen: it really doesn't matter . Find it hard to believe that he will be on a NFL roster next year ,maybe a taxi squad. Watching NFL games this year ,notice many 2nd and 3rd team quarterbacks have been more productive than Clausen. In part you could blame the teams he has been with or the lack of good players, but he just doesn't make anything happen ( doesn't make plays) . Every year new QBs are coming into the league and not many are retiring .

I wonder if C. Weis ( with all of his promises and hype to Clausen) really prepared him for the pro game . Weis' (with Clausen ) last three years at ND were unproductive .
 
All the comments pro or con on Clausen: it really doesn't matter . Find it hard to believe that he will be on a NFL roster next year ,maybe a taxi squad. Watching NFL games this year ,notice many 2nd and 3rd team quarterbacks have been more productive than Clausen. In part you could blame the teams he has been with or the lack of good players, but he just doesn't make anything happen ( doesn't make plays) . Every year new QBs are coming into the league and not many are retiring .

I wonder if C. Weis ( with all of his promises and hype to Clausen) really prepared him for the pro game . Weis' (with Clausen ) last three years at ND were unproductive .

They were unproductive because the team was terrible. Clausen was a very good player for ND, IMO.

I think Weis did a good job with Clausen as he was drafted in the second round.
 
Hindsight .Clausen should have stayed for his 4th year.
 
Hindsight .Clausen should have stayed for his 4th year.

Are you calling yourself out for hindsight or saying I'm using hindsight?

I don't see the point in saying someone "should have stayed" for their fourth year if they ended up getting drafted in the 2nd round and making a good chunk of change. Just me though.
 
To FightingIrish44 ,

Are you serious , the 2009 team with Coach Weis and Clausen was terrible ? Really ? Whose fault was that ?
Sergio Brown,Clausen ,Eifert,Fleming ,Floyd, Jonas Gray,Hughes,Lewis-Moore,Olsen,Ian Williams,Sam Young ,Riddick,Trevor Robinson,Rudolph ,Harrison Smith, Manti Te'o, Walls ,Blanton ,etc . All went on not only to play pro ball ,but a lot of them are starters and stars .
 
Clausen was a very good college QB. He would have been tremendous in the years Rees was the starter.
 
To FightingIrish44 ,

Are you serious , the 2009 team with Coach Weis and Clausen was terrible ? Really ? Whose fault was that ?
Sergio Brown,Clausen ,Eifert,Fleming ,Floyd, Jonas Gray,Hughes,Lewis-Moore,Olsen,Ian Williams,Sam Young ,Riddick,Trevor Robinson,Rudolph ,Harrison Smith, Manti Te'o, Walls ,Blanton ,etc . All went on not only to play pro ball ,but a lot of them are starters and stars .

What exactly is your point? What does that have to do with Clausen going or not going pro after his Junior season?
 
Oops,how could I forget Golden Tate on the 2009 team .Also the center in 2009 was Braxton Cave and isn't he playing for a pro team?
 
Oops,how could I forget Golden Tate on the 2009 team .Also the center in 2009 was Braxton Cave and isn't he playing for a pro team?

What is your point? Can you please answer that? Why are you bringing up all of these people?
 
You said the team was terrible ? And what's that got to do with Clausen going pro .Well , Weis never had any kind of productive team in his last 3 years with all the talent he had in 2009 . If you watched some of those games in 2008 and 2009 ,Clausen threw some lollipops where Floyd , Rudolph and Tate had to out jump the smaller D-backs .
 
FightingIrish44,,
Did Weis really develop Clausen who was the #1 QB coming out of high school ? Clausen had all of these top flight wideouts and first round tight ends in Rudolph and Eifert .

Your point was that Weis developed Clausen into a second round choice inspite of a terrible team in 2009 . Why was this team terrible ? Who made this team terrible ? I listed the members of the team to prove a point that the 2009 team had talent ,a lot of talent.
 
You said the team was terrible ? And what's that got to do with Clausen going pro .Well , Weis never had any kind of productive team in his last 3 years with all the talent he had in 2009 . If you watched some of those games in 2008 and 2009 ,Clausen threw some lollipops where Floyd , Rudolph and Tate had to out jump the smaller D-backs .

You wondered if Weis prepared Clausen for the pro game and cited that the team was unproductive.

I'm basically saying that a guy can still be well-prepared even though he played on a bad team.

You then said Clausen should have stayed for his Senior year. I'm basically saying, "why?" He got drafted in the second round and made a bunch of money.

You're naming off all these players in the NFL that were under Weis, but they have nothing to do with the conversation about Clausen.

Weis wasn't a good college head coach at ND. Weis did a good enough job with Clausen to allow him to be a 2nd round pick. Both statements can be true. That's all.
 
Also, the idea that Clausen would have benefited by staying to see how a new offense - a spread offense at that - would in any way help him developmentally as a pro-style QB, or help his draft stock, is totally missing the reality at the time. Clausen couldn't run a lick and didn't have any experience running a spread offense. It's quite possible that if Clausen hadn't made up his mind to go pro after talking to Weis, Brian Kelly may have told him there was no point in sticking around anyway. At least Crist was able to run and Rees came from a spread offense in HS. I think BK may have looked at Clausen as a square peg in a round hole if he had stuck around.
 
Okay so an extra year wouldn't have done any good .. But 2009 team still had plenty of talent..And Clausen for whatever reason is not doing that well . Thinking , Weis went to major bowls in his first 2 years with Brady Quinn .Quinn was a late first round pick .
 
You said the team was terrible ? And what's that got to do with Clausen going pro .Well , Weis never had any kind of productive team in his last 3 years with all the talent he had in 2009 . If you watched some of those games in 2008 and 2009 ,Clausen threw some lollipops where Floyd , Rudolph and Tate had to out jump the smaller D-backs .
good players but the team wasn't very good. see coaching staff.
 
You wondered if Weis prepared Clausen for the pro game and cited that the team was unproductive.

I'm basically saying that a guy can still be well-prepared even though he played on a bad team.

You then said Clausen should have stayed for his Senior year. I'm basically saying, "why?" He got drafted in the second round and made a bunch of money.

You're naming off all these players in the NFL that were under Weis, but they have nothing to do with the conversation about Clausen.

Weis wasn't a good college head coach at ND. Weis did a good enough job with Clausen to allow him to be a 2nd round pick. Both statements can be true. That's all.
i guess that given the hype coming in clausen being a 2nd rounder is less than what was expected.
 
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