and SMUNo. Under the current set up the winning team would still have to win 4 post season games. Clemson was the only team that would have had to win 5. The only way to make a bye a true advantage is to eliminate conference championship games and that's unlikely given the revenue they generate. ND basically had a "bye" when other playoff teams were participating in championship games.
Plus Texas and Penn St. I corrected it.and SMU
Well actually, he stated Clemson was the only team that would have had to WIN 5 games. That's the 4 playoff games plus the conference championship game. Texas, PSU, and SMU all lost the conference championship game. Had SMU won they would have gotten the bye, and ASU would have been the only team to have had to win 5 games.Plus Texas and Penn St. I corrected it.
Yes you are correct. I originally posted that Clemson was the only team needing to win 5 games. Hadn't had my coffee yet...Well actually, he stated Clemson was the only team that would have had to WIN 5 games. That's the 4 playoff games plus the conference championship game. Texas, PSU, and SMU all lost the conference championship game. Had SMU won they would have gotten the bye, and ASU would have been the only team to have had to win 5 games.
I made the same mistake. Me neither. lol Merry Christmas.Yes you are correct. I originally posted that Clemson was the only team needing to win 5 games. Hadn't had my coffee yet...
Is Carson Beck exhibit A for the value of not playing in a conference championship game?Exhibit A for the value of a bye ?
So according to you, playing an extra game in the CFP doesn’t put the players at the risk of injuryNo. Under the current set up the winning team would still have to win 4 post season games. Clemson,PSU,SMU and Texas are the only teams that would have had to win 5. The only way to make a bye a true advantage is to eliminate conference championship games and that's unlikely given the revenue they generate. ND basically had a "bye" when other playoff teams were participating in championship games.
Conference championship games are a totally separate issueNo. Under the current set up the winning team would still have to win 4 post season games. Clemson,PSU,SMU and Texas are the only teams that would have had to win 5. The only way to make a bye a true advantage is to eliminate conference championship games and that's unlikely given the revenue they generate. ND basically had a "bye" when other playoff teams were participating in championship games.
I believe your stance on the " pylon placement" question was similar. If you don't understand what postseason means so be it. It's why ND was ineligible for a bye which was fair. Injuries happen, unfortunate for sure but that's the reality of the game.So according to you, playing an extra game in the CFP doesn’t put the players at the risk of injury
Interesting theory, wrong but interesting
To you perhaps but they are the reason why ND was ineligible for a bye. It's simple math. The CFP was never going to allow ANY team an advantage by allowing them to play in less total post season games in an attempt to win the National Championship.Conference championship games are a totally separate issue
My question on the pylon was never answered.I believe your stance on the " pylon placement" question was similar. If you don't understand what postseason means so be it. It's why ND was ineligible for a bye which was fair. Injuries happen, unfortunate for sure but that's the reality of the game.
That’s not true.To you perhaps but they are the reason why ND was ineligible for a bye. It's simple math. The CFP was never going to allow ANY team an advantage by allowing them to play in less total post season games in an attempt to win the National Championship.
The teams that played in the conference championship, lost and made the playoffs get the worst dealThat’s not true.
There were other teams that did not play in a conference championship that did not get a bye, Indiana being one of them
Correct and Indiana would have to play in 4 postseason games to win the championship just like ND and Georgia and Oregon and Ohio State.That’s not true.
There were other teams that did not play in a conference championship that did not get a bye, Indiana being one of them
One could argue Penn State got a better deal in the CFB playoff losing to Oregon than Oregon did beating Penn State for the Big 10 title.The teams that played in the conference championship, lost and made the playoffs get the worst deal
You could also argue Texas got a better deal losing to Georgia than Georgia did beating Texas a second time for the SEC title.The teams that played in the conference championship, lost and made the playoffs get the worst deal
I'm not referring to seedings. I'm referring to playing extra games. If Texas or PSU get to the NC game, they would have played an extra game compared to all others in the cfp.You could also argue Texas got a better deal losing to Georgia than Georgia did beating Texas a second time for the SEC title.
Im referring to playing more games. If PSU or Texas make it to the NC game, they would play one extra game compared to all other teams in the cfp.One could argue Penn State got a better deal in the CFB playoff losing to Oregon than Oregon did beating Penn State for the Big 10 title.
Fair enough.Im referring to playing more games. If PSU or Texas make it to the NC game, they would play one extra game compared to all other teams in the cfp
Maybe they did, but regardless they have to play an extra game to win the NC. Clemson would have been included in the list as well, but they are already out.Fair enough.
That said, both of those teams got breaks compared to who Oregon and Georgia will play next. At least IMO.