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Houston Griffith back in Play for ND?

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Per Tom Loy, apparently the Irish turnaround has impressed Griffith and his family and he will be visiting with the Irish staff over Thanksgiving. Would be a monster coup to flip him from FSU.
 
I'm not sure if grades were an issue or not. It was said to be, but was that something we came up with to make ourselves feel better b/c he is friends w/ 1 of our commits and is from IL? That I dont know. But considering the 2 schools Loy seems to be well connected to are ND and FSU I would think his info is pretty solid. Guess we'll find out more over the next few weeks. If he does meet with the coaches we should find out something pretty soon after. He's gonna EE, so not much time to decide if he's really reconsidering.
 
I think the initial source of the information that grades were an issue was 24/7 premium content FWIW
 
That's why I keep him in every recruiting thread. Chicago boy born and raised. Parents love Notre Dame. Derrik Allen is his best friend in the class.

Have to keep battling for him until the bitter end.
 
I didn’t think grades as much as I was thinking he was short a core class. I could be wrong.
 
My only concern is the particular reporter in question and whether or not this is a credible, real development, or him simply driving traffic.

I've had a hunch for a long time that ND would have a final push for Griffith if they played well. I think that could exacerbated by FSU struggling. Here is to hoping It's legitimate. Whether he plays free safety or boundary corner, he would be dynamic addition to the class along with Derrik Allen.
 
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My only concern is the particular reporter in question and whether or not this is a credible, real development, or him simply driving traffic.

I've had a hunch for a long time that ND would have a final push for Griffith if they played well. I think that could exacerbated by FSU struggling. Here is to hoping It's legitimate. Whether he plays free safety or boundary corner, he would be dynamic addition to the class along with Derrik Allen.


Hopefully, it was not reported by CNN and we know it is fake news
 
I thought Weis got the ND admin to allow one or two "borderline" recruits per recruiting cycle. As a sort of compromise between the athletic and admissions departments. Am I wrong? Did this compromise go by the wayside?

I'm not saying to open up the floodgates and admit anyone who can help the team. But I thought it was great that they would allow the coach to take a chance on a good, smart kid who just missed getting admitted.

Maybe I'm dreaming.
 
I believe that is incorrect, I think Weis wanted to get more borderline people but I am not sure he was ever given that.

To expand, there were reports coming out of a couple of places that all seem rooted in rumors that Griffin intended to EE but that he wasn't going to qualify for EE at ND because of either grades or a core class requirement or a grade in a core class requirement. Either way the site that I see as the most commonly referenced source of that belief is now saying he is a flip candidate, so if qualifying to EE at ND was at one time a concern the recent developments would suggest it no longer is.
 
He goes to a private academy....I am sure they could get him any course / class he needs. That's why you pay the big bucks
 
He goes to a private academy....I am sure they could get him any course / class he needs. That's why you pay the big bucks

It's not a matter of him getting a course to graduate and get into ND. It's that he would have to take that (or those) courses in the winter semester, meaning he wouldn't be an EE as he planned / would be at FSU.

Griffith is a kid that is focused on getting to the NFL. He wants to play from day 1. Being on campus on the spring and going through ND's strength program over the winter would help him get there quickly.

Here is to hoping that ND can assure he and Derrik Allen (close friends) that Balis will get them a strength top notch off season program together that they can do on their own to have them both physically ready to compete at a high level when they arrive at ND for June workouts (should Griffith flip).

ND is deep in their deep in their secondary heading into 2018 and returns virtually eveyone (pending a Nick Watkins decision on a 5th year) but these two kids HAVE to find time on the field if they both end up at ND. They are two of the most elite defensive backs in the nation.
 
Not impressed by someone who solely decides where he will play his college ball based on the current year's won-loss record.
 
Not impressed by someone who solely decides where he will play his college ball based on the current year's won-loss record.
What? Would think you would have to take into account the records at the program..... why would you want to go somewhere that is struggling?
 
What? Would think you would have to take into account the records at the program..... why would you want to go somewhere that is struggling?

I think you miss my point. The guy didn't want to go to ND based on last year's poor record; now this year we are winning and he's interested? I'd rather have someone with a longer time frame because as soon as the team loses couple of games next year he's goinh yo start regretting his choice -- a choice that was apparently not made on whether ND is a good fit academically, socially or otherwise, but only on the record of the football team.
 
I think you miss my point. The guy didn't want to go to ND based on last year's poor record; now this year we are winning and he's interested? I'd rather have someone with a longer time frame because as soon as the team loses couple of games next year he's goinh yo start regretting his choice -- a choice that was apparently not made on whether ND is a good fit academically, socially or otherwise, but only on the record of the football team.
These are kids. Kids who want to be with a winner.

Would you commit to play for Kelly based on his previous 7 years?

Kelly had not done things the right way including 2012 — until this year

Kids have a right to factor this in. You make it sound like we only want kids who think ND is special. Well it’s not special to everyone. There are other things in play.
 
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i think part of the "record" concern too, could be that he may worry about whether BK would be the coach by the time he graduates. It's more than simple seasonal won/loss record.
 
It's not about the win / loss record, It's about the direction of the program. A kid doesn't live or die over a loss or two, but elite kids want to go to elite programs where they can compete for titles and where there is stability.

Brian Kelly has completely changed the narrative at ND and his hires have restabilized the program. It makes a kid like Griffith or Jayson Oweh take a second look.

I've been a recruiting coordinator. I think A lot of people fail to realize just how much negative recruitment elite recruits face. A kid like Houston would literally have a dozen top tier coaches telling him how bad Notre Dame is, how unstable Brian Kelly's job is and how he'd never win in South Bend... That's really hard for a young kid to get past. He has to see improvement before he'll believe it and he has to be convinced that the program he is considering is stable before he'll attend.

We quickly forget that guys like Daelin Hayes, EQ St. Brown and Nyles Morgan were not sold on ND for a long time. They're all starters and none of them are poor team or school fits in South Bend.
 
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Interestingly enough, Houston Griffith committed to ND tonight on his twitter....and then quickly deleted the post. Saw a screen grab of it and it looks legit. says, "4for40 committed to the irish" with a pic of him wearing a #3 ND jersey. I have no idea what to make of this, but that adds a TON of smoke to the fire that is the story of his possible flip to ND.
 
It's not about the win / loss record, It's about the direction of the program. A kid doesn't live or die over a loss or two, but elite kids want to go to elite programs where they can compete for titles and where there is stability.

Brian Kelly has completely changed the narrative at ND and his hires have restabilized the program. It makes a kid like Griffith or Jayson Oweh take a second look.

I've been a recruiting coordinator. I think A lot of people fail to realize just how much negative recruitment elite recruits face a kid like Houston would literally have a dozen top tier coaches telling him how bad Notre Dame is, how unstable Brian Kelly's job is and how he'd never win in South Bend... That's really hard for a young kid to get past. He has to see improvement before he'll believe it and he has to be convinced that the program he is considering is stable before he'll attend.

We quickly forget that guys like Daelin Hayes, EQ St. Brown and Nyles Morgan were not sold on ND for a the long time. They're all starters and none of them are poor team or school fits in South Bend.
Interestingly enough, Houston Griffith committed to ND tonight on his twitter....and then quickly deleted the post. Saw a screen grab of it and it looks legit. says, "4for40 committed to the irish" with a pic of him wearing a #3 ND jersey. I have no idea what to make of this, but that adds a TON of smoke to the fire that is the story of his possible flip to ND.

 
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Interestingly enough, Houston Griffith committed to ND tonight on his twitter....and then quickly deleted the post. Saw a screen grab of it and it looks legit. says, "4for40 committed to the irish" with a pic of him wearing a #3 ND jersey. I have no idea what to make of this, but that adds a TON of smoke to the fire that is the story of his possible flip to ND.
Whoa nice
 
Sounds good for ND. With that post and the thought that he's going to visit over thanksgiving, maybe he'll go public then?

Also interesting that it calls him a safety. I'd assume he'd be the swing prospect with S/CB flexibility, but more safety (like Irvin would've been as well), and they try and land 1-2 more corners. If he's in the fold, I'm not sure how they can end up with room for Crim.
 
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just read where he has just recently started following multiple irish verbals, remaining targets and coaches on twitter
 
It's not about the win / loss record, It's about the direction of the program. A kid doesn't live or die over a loss or two, but elite kids want to go to elite programs where they can compete for titles and where there is stability.

Brian Kelly has completely changed the narrative at ND and his hires have restabilized the program. It makes a kid like Griffith or Jayson Oweh take a second look.

I've been a recruiting coordinator. I think A lot of people fail to realize just how much negative recruitment elite recruits face. A kid like Houston would literally have a dozen top tier coaches telling him how bad Notre Dame is, how unstable Brian Kelly's job is and how he'd never win in South Bend... That's really hard for a young kid to get past. He has to see improvement before he'll believe it and he has to be convinced that the program he is considering is stable before he'll attend.

We quickly forget that guys like Daelin Hayes, EQ St. Brown and Nyles Morgan were not sold on ND for a long time. They're all starters and none of them are poor team or school fits in South Bend.
 
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