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Bodizephax
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CJ Sanders makes multiple great plays !
Josh Adams makes long run ! (The next Ricky Waters !)
Nice hit by Jarret Grace !
Avery Sebastion looked good ! So did Jalen Guyton and K. Russel !
Deshone Kizer has some moves ! Nice run ! Nice pass by Malik!
14 and 0 ! This team can do it !
Bring on Texas !
Josh Adams makes long run ! (The next Ricky Waters !)
Nice hit by Jarret Grace !
Avery Sebastion looked good ! So did Jalen Guyton and K. Russel !
Deshone Kizer has some moves ! Nice run ! Nice pass by Malik!
14 and 0 ! This team can do it !
Bring on Texas !
I hate to be negative but I've seen too much of Redfield giving up catches to walk-ons and backups. Farley is routinely getting beat in these highlights as well. You can see why the staff is getting Crawford so much time as the nickel.
CJ Sanders definitely has had some "WOW" plays in the highlights.
CJ Sanders definitely has had some "WOW" plays in the highlights.
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Let's hope the defense (Russell aside) is not really bad that some of those offensive plays were indeed spectacular.
I can tell you some of those runs were made possible by horrible fundamentals. Just horrible.[/QUOTE]
Maybe I was looking at something different, but the first run they showed was Day tackling somebody for a loss in the backfield. The Kizer draw had great blocking up fron (though Farley looked terrible on his knees at the end). Fuller's run started with a good block, and we KNOW Fuller can make take it to the end zone against a lot of defenses. Josh Adam's run was set up with blocks I could have run behind, though I would have needed a rest before the end zone.
Other than the Sander's run, which made guys look stupid, I saw good offensive execution.
Let's hope the defense (Russell aside) is not really bad that some of those offensive plays were indeed spectacular.
I can tell you some of those runs were made possible by horrible fundamentals. Just horrible.[/QUOTE]
Maybe I was looking at something different, but the first run they showed was Day tackling somebody for a loss in the backfield. The Kizer draw had great blocking up fron (though Farley looked terrible on his knees at the end). Fuller's run started with a good block, and we KNOW Fuller can make take it to the end zone against a lot of defenses. Josh Adam's run was set up with blocks I could have run behind, though I would have needed a rest before the end zone.
Other than the Sander's run, which made guys look stupid, I saw good offensive execution.
Maybe I was looking at something different, but the first run they showed was Day tackling somebody for a loss in the backfield. The Kizer draw had great blocking up fron (though Farley looked terrible on his knees at the end). Fuller's run started with a good block, and we KNOW Fuller can make take it to the end zone against a lot of defenses. Josh Adam's run was set up with blocks I could have run behind, though I would have needed a rest before the end zone.
Other than the Sander's run, which made guys look stupid, I saw good offensive execution.[/QUOTE]
You were not seeing it is all. Example, the last clip ....you see a spectacular run. I see absolutely horrible defense collectively. Bad angles, nobody breaking down, arm tackle attempts. On one play our starting defense made that #9 running back look like Barry Sanders and Walter Payton combined. I'm not saying he isn't good, but it starts with #5. His attempt was atrocious!!!! His lack of break down enabled that whole big play. Trying for the highlight hit ...tell him espn doesn't do top 10 highlights in fall practice.
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Bodizephax
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You were not seeing it is all. Example, the last clip ....you see a spectacular run. I see absolutely horrible defense collectively. Bad angles, nobody breaking down, arm tackle attempts. On one play our starting defense made that #6 running back look like Barry Sanders and Walter Payton combined. I'm not saying he isn't good, but it starts with #5. His attempt was atrocious!!!! His lack of break down enabled that whole big play. Trying for the highlight hit ...tell him espn doesn't do top 10 highlights in fall practice.[/QUOTE]
Oh and #41 & 5 & 28 might be the worst at their positions since the early 80's.
This team will score on anyone. Stopping people is going to be a challenge.
Trust me when I tell you that I don't want to say those things but either they are being taught defensive fundamentals by someone incompetent or they just aren't very good.
I'm going with the fundamental part because those are plays that they aren't getting beat by speed or being a lesser athlete but they are bad angles (#41) has no idea how to take pursuit angle or break down.....#59...terrible control and over commits....#5 trying to make a highlight hit every play makes him look silly because the decent back makes one move and he is gone. #28 spinning like a turnstile on a plant fake post route.
The O is great...the D is going to be shredded. Just hope we out score. Which we could.
This team will score on anyone. Stopping people is going to be a challenge.
Trust me when I tell you that I don't want to say those things but either they are being taught defensive fundamentals by someone incompetent or they just aren't very good.
I'm going with the fundamental part because those are plays that they aren't getting beat by speed or being a lesser athlete but they are bad angles (#41) has no idea how to take pursuit angle or break down.....#59...terrible control and over commits....#5 trying to make a highlight hit every play makes him look silly because the decent back makes one move and he is gone. #28 spinning like a turnstile on a plant fake post route.
The O is great...the D is going to be shredded. Just hope we out score. Which we could.
Bodizephax
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You were not seeing it is all. Example, the last clip ....you see a spectacular run. I see absolutely horrible defense collectively. Bad angles, nobody breaking down, arm tackle attempts. On one play our starting defense made that #9 running back look like Barry Sanders and Walter Payton combined. I'm not saying he isn't good, but it starts with #5. His attempt was atrocious!!!! His lack of break down enabled that whole big play. Trying for the highlight hit ...tell him espn doesn't do top 10 highlights in fall practice.[/QUOTE]
Uhm, I said other than the Sander's run (the wide receiver you refer to as running back #9) I saw pretty good offensive execution. so yeah, the defense looked pretty bad on that last play. But that wasn't the first team defense - it was Nyles Morgan, Grant Blankenship, Greer Martini. and Dru Tranquil looking sucktastic on that one. At least that's who I saw tackling shadows.
Frankly, the whole video is shot too close for evaluation and is really just about providing some entertainment. I'd love to see them put together a video of low-lights too, but I'm thinking we'll never get that..
Don't know what its worth, but the Chicago Tribune's headline from today's practice was "Defense Steals the Show" and suggested the offense is the one that struggled.
Question....these subs as you called them being so sucktastic, ....they are division 1 players...yes? Yes they are but they could be division 3 talent no matter, they are being taught or better yet NOT BEING TAUGHT proper fundamentals. These players are not being run over, (over powered) or being beaten to the sideline on speed alone. No. Most of these hideous plays are in the box where nobody...even the division one suvktastuc crew ...is breaking down, or making a proper form tackle. They are out of control bad angled lazy plays. BVG move along please. Thanks
Question for you:Nicco Fertitti, the #28 you refer to as one of the worst at his position since the early 80's, has been through 10 whole days of practice. Do you really think its reasonable to deem him an ND Coaching failure based on a single highlight video 10 days into practice?
Might be a bit overstated.
Bodizephax
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That second video? Ok whatever. Sure the DL looked great winning some of the hand fighting battles. Where is the back seven in that second video?
The open field tackling of this group is awful. Just awful. I could teach them. It's not hard for God sakes.
Joe Schmidt I did not see in either video maybe he does it right. Jaylon as well. One tiny clip of Jaylon between both videos of him making an inside move against a down lineman. The rest of the defense in those clips are not very good. If you guys bet on ND's games then just take the over on every game because it's going to be a scoring fest.
Let me explain. The difficult part is not teaching them the proper way to break down but rather getting the message between their ears that critical times on defense less is more. Example...open field tackling is the hardest thing for a defender. When it's one on one and open space...what do you do? If you come in for the kill shot you might get lucky once in a while and make the big hit. But more often than not you will miss and leave that RB to go and shred the rest of the defense. You have to close the gap, break down, then make the tackle. Want to know why most are NOT doing this? Because if you do it right often times you wind up on your back ...but guess what....YOU MADE THE TACKLE FOR NO FURTHER GAIN.
Would you rather see Morgan come up and stuff the run on every play or would you rather see him miss the RB completely on 7-8 plays of ten when maybe those others he makes a huge hit. Trust me when I tell you want the under control nothing fancy but tackles from the LB play. Secondary as well.
Any of you remember Chris Spielman (spelling? ) going out of his mind when we played ASU? That one particular play he was like this is football and I'm not sure what kind of tackle attempt that was. Something to that effect.
We may not have the best athlete's on defense. You can't make them the bigger, stronger, faster. What you can do is everything under YOUR power to make them have the best fundamentals possible. Anyone can have good simple defensive football fundamentals. Even you reading this. Those things have nothing to do with a 40 time or a bench press.
The open field tackling of this group is awful. Just awful. I could teach them. It's not hard for God sakes.
Joe Schmidt I did not see in either video maybe he does it right. Jaylon as well. One tiny clip of Jaylon between both videos of him making an inside move against a down lineman. The rest of the defense in those clips are not very good. If you guys bet on ND's games then just take the over on every game because it's going to be a scoring fest.
Let me explain. The difficult part is not teaching them the proper way to break down but rather getting the message between their ears that critical times on defense less is more. Example...open field tackling is the hardest thing for a defender. When it's one on one and open space...what do you do? If you come in for the kill shot you might get lucky once in a while and make the big hit. But more often than not you will miss and leave that RB to go and shred the rest of the defense. You have to close the gap, break down, then make the tackle. Want to know why most are NOT doing this? Because if you do it right often times you wind up on your back ...but guess what....YOU MADE THE TACKLE FOR NO FURTHER GAIN.
Would you rather see Morgan come up and stuff the run on every play or would you rather see him miss the RB completely on 7-8 plays of ten when maybe those others he makes a huge hit. Trust me when I tell you want the under control nothing fancy but tackles from the LB play. Secondary as well.
Any of you remember Chris Spielman (spelling? ) going out of his mind when we played ASU? That one particular play he was like this is football and I'm not sure what kind of tackle attempt that was. Something to that effect.
We may not have the best athlete's on defense. You can't make them the bigger, stronger, faster. What you can do is everything under YOUR power to make them have the best fundamentals possible. Anyone can have good simple defensive football fundamentals. Even you reading this. Those things have nothing to do with a 40 time or a bench press.
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I agree it's about trying to make the highlight-reel hit IMO. Then you get to dance around and strut, whereas if you just make a "regular" tackle there's no peacocking.
The coaches should tell these guys "forget the big hit, just get the guy on the ground." The temptation to land a big haymaker is just too great otherwise -- they're not thinking about how they're going to fly right by the guy if he takes a simple side step.
The coaches should tell these guys "forget the big hit, just get the guy on the ground." The temptation to land a big haymaker is just too great otherwise -- they're not thinking about how they're going to fly right by the guy if he takes a simple side step.
